Will Levis

[oldhawkfan]

NOBODY made that claim. My point was that you shouldn't spend significant draft capital on QBs with the intent to flip them later for picks. History tells us that rarely works out. Obviously, teams should be on the lookout for franchise QBs. The problem is that past round two those guys are exceptionally rare.

I think the argument could be made that finding the truly elite QB is exceptionally rare and extremely lucky, no matter how or where you can find one. There are lots and lots of first round QB busts, never mind the second round. There were lots on this board that wanted Malik Willis in the first round in the ‘22 draft.
Finding one is hard. It’s why Denver gave up a king’s ransom for Me3.

 

[IndyHawk]

I think the argument could be made that finding the truly elite QB is exceptionally rare and extremely lucky, no matter how or where you can find one. There are lots and lots of first round QB busts, never mind the second round. There were lots on this board that wanted Malik Willis in the first round in the ‘22 draft.
Finding one is hard. It’s why Denver gave up a king’s ransom for Me3.

And Me3 isn't near elite..
It's been years since I've seen so many non elite QBs in the NFL.
It's very hard to be called elite by me but others standards are
lower and I'm used to it.

Those same ones who wanted Malik want a QB taken no matter what
Never mind the bust rate or the holes on the lines that need filling.

 

[SonicHawk]

Will Levis is trash.

 

[bileever]

Will Levis is trash.

That pick 6 on Sunday was comical. To make that throw late in the fourth quarter when your team is in the lead and the Bears have no offense? Unbelievable!

CAN'T-MISS HIGHLIGHT: Tyrique Stevenson's pick-six gives Bears first lead

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

Will Levis is trash.

At least Ten didn't trade up to the #1 pick for him

 

[Chukarhawk]

He looks bad. Poor kid. I hope he can wright the ship.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

He looks bad. Poor kid. I hope he can wright the ship.

All these young QBs struggling and seeing Geno and Darnold overcome similar hurdles, has me wondering how much is them vs how much is the coaching.

 

[MORGULON]

All these young QBs struggling and seeing Geno and Darnold overcome similar hurdles, has me wondering how much is them vs how much is the coaching.

Andy Dalton

 

[Ozzy]

He looks bad lately. He has a ton of physical talent and it’s early in his career so we will see. Geno is a prime example why you can’t give up on someone tho. Took him ten years

 

[SonicHawk]

Still trash, Ozzy

 

[Ozzy]

lol he is terrible this year. What’s even crazier? His touchdown/int numbers are almost identical to Geno’s

On a serious note I really think a QB hitting is largely who drafts them. Geno, Baker, Darnold and others are busts until they get to well ran organizations. Brady and Warner have both talked about this a ton. I would guess a ton of guys have busted of no fault of their own. I think very, very few hit in any situation. Levis has the tool set but I would guess Tenn did a terrible job developing him? It’s possible anyway

 

[Ozzy]

But again he’s been possibly the worst or second worst starter in the league this year.

 

[Appyhawk]

It really bothers me that I can predict when Geno is about to throw that red zone int.

Will Levis started at Penn St but moved to Kentucky for his last two years, which is where he made most of his QB hay. I have a hard time accepting QBs as legit top talents coming from that conference. Had he stayed and excelled at Penn St my assessment of him would have been a lot higher. But I'm not sure he ever would have played again had he stayed at Penn St.

 

[Sperrydogg]

lol he is terrible this year. What’s even crazier? His touchdown/int numbers are almost identical to Geno’s

On a serious note I really think a QB hitting is largely who drafts them. Geno, Baker, Darnold and others are busts until they get to well ran organizations. Brady and Warner have both talked about this a ton. I would guess a ton of guys have busted of no fault of their own. I think very, very few hit in any situation. Levis has the tool set but I would guess Tenn did a terrible job developing him? It’s possible anyway

Imagine if Russ started his career under Nathaniel Hackett

 

[Ozzy]

Imagine if Russ stared his career under Nathaniel Hackett

My word lol

 

[CPHawk]

Imagine if Russ started his career under Nathaniel Hackett

Career over by year 3

 

[TwilightError]

All these young QBs struggling and seeing Geno and Darnold overcome similar hurdles, has me wondering how much is them vs how much is the coaching.

This is a good take. The landing spot of a a QB prospect dictates a lot. We cant say how well a Malik Willis, Will Levis or a Christian Stroud would have done in the Seahawks. Different scheme and different coaching. Geno and Darnold got drafted by an organization, which is so bad that the owner actually desides which players to trade based on Madden rankings… maybe their early careers would have looked different in a different organization..

 

[Appyhawk]

Willis and Levis have both performed right at the level I predicted pre-draft. Coaching is only part of the reason some QBs make it and some don't. I think Mayfield's recent success is a result of maturation as a human being, an advantage he did not previously have.

 

[toffee]

He looks bad lately. He has a ton of physical talent and it’s early in his career so we will see. Geno is a prime example why you can’t give up on someone tho. Took him ten years

You nailed it, teams with young QBs can sell hope, ie "it’s early in his career so we will see.". Hope keeps fans happy and tickets selling.