What can we do to fix our defense?

Shanegotyou11

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I know we don't have the same talent obviously. Do we need to change the soft zone to press man or cover 3/4 hybrid?


This defense is terrible.
 

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Shanegotyou11":3eyw5d7k said:
I know we don't have the same talent obviously. Do we need to change the soft zone to press man or cover 3/4 hybrid?


This defense is terrible.


That is the problem, a HC changes the system to fit the players he has and the situation. We dont and that is a problem.
 

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John63":29hxr850 said:
Shanegotyou11":29hxr850 said:
I know we don't have the same talent obviously. Do we need to change the soft zone to press man or cover 3/4 hybrid?


This defense is terrible.


That is the problem, a HC changes the system to fit the players he has and the situation. We dont and that is a problem.


Anyone got a counter to this?
 

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No, it isn't the scheme.

We need better players. That's really just all there is to it. The DL has a whopping two starters on it.
 

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New DC, new FS, new #2 CB, new nickel CB, true LEO, probably some more DL depth.
 

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imnKOgnito":3nh10hs1 said:
Bring Dan Quinn back as DC next season.

Dan is not a good DC when he doesn't have the LOB, did you watch Atlanta's defense?
 

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WestcoastSteve":1rppb8fg said:
imnKOgnito":1rppb8fg said:
Bring Dan Quinn back as DC next season.

Dan is not a good DC when he doesn't have the LOB, did you watch Atlanta's defense?

HC is a different job than DC. The old adage that people rise to the level of their incompetence might be in play here. In any case, I'd prefer him over Norton.
 

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Get healthy...

Tedric shouldn't start anymore but Bradley was only available for one series.
Blair had some big hits but missed a lot of tackles -- I figure Diggs will maybe play more
And King was awful -- huge step down from Tre
 

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WestcoastSteve":m1en8zq6 said:
imnKOgnito":m1en8zq6 said:
Bring Dan Quinn back as DC next season.

Dan is not a good DC when he doesn't have the LOB, did you watch Atlanta's defense?

Dan is a DL guy and got some of the best pressure this team has ever had. Secondary is Pete’s baby. I’d be fine with DQ coming back as DC but even if it’s just like DL coach/assistant HC I’d be fine with.
 

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MontanaHawk05":2826o0zz said:
No, it isn't the scheme.

We need better players. That's really just all there is to it. The DL has a whopping two starters on it.
I tend to agree with this. We’ve had a series of below average drafts and there isn’t a lot of young talent in the on-deck circle.
 

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MontanaHawk05":3vvozlh3 said:
No, it isn't the scheme.

We need better players. That's really just all there is to it. The DL has a whopping two starters on it.

Then that goes back to HC for picking bad players. All that said change the system to suite what you do have. That's what NE does, that is what good teams do. Example today JJ should have been double teamed all game.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1si4o893 said:
No, it isn't the scheme.

We need better players. That's really just all there is to it. The DL has a whopping two starters on it.

I know you're talking about quality starters, but it sure feels like we are playing with 9 players out there sometimes, especially on the DL.
 

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We need to scheme for the opponent. We don't have the players to just play the same all the time. You know Matt Schaub is going to throw a ton of RB and TE short dumps and screens and not bomb it down the field, so why not adjust?
 

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mistaowen":2rqtxwy3 said:
WestcoastSteve":2rqtxwy3 said:
imnKOgnito":2rqtxwy3 said:
Bring Dan Quinn back as DC next season.

Dan is not a good DC when he doesn't have the LOB, did you watch Atlanta's defense?

Dan is a DL guy and got some of the best pressure this team has ever had. Secondary is Pete’s baby. I’d be fine with DQ coming back as DC but even if it’s just like DL coach/assistant HC I’d be fine with.

Dan had a prime Bennett, Avril, Irvin, Clemens...

Again Atlanta came into today with 5 sacks and Dan has been their DC all year.

Talent can make an average coach look great.
 

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WestcoastSteve":3gl5wlu5 said:
mistaowen":3gl5wlu5 said:
WestcoastSteve":3gl5wlu5 said:
imnKOgnito":3gl5wlu5 said:
Bring Dan Quinn back as DC next season.

Dan is not a good DC when he doesn't have the LOB, did you watch Atlanta's defense?

Dan is a DL guy and got some of the best pressure this team has ever had. Secondary is Pete’s baby. I’d be fine with DQ coming back as DC but even if it’s just like DL coach/assistant HC I’d be fine with.

Dan had a prime Bennett, Avril, Irvin, Clemens...

Again Atlanta came into today with 5 sacks and Dan has been their DC all year.

Talent can make an average coach look great.

Posters on this board would have looked good coaching the LOB in their prime, that DL in their prime and young and nasty Wagner and Wright.
 

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