Walker vs Charbonnet 2025 (So far)

[Kamcussionator]

K9 reminds me a bit of Le’Veon Bell with his running style. But when blocks get blown up, you can’t run that way. He was pretty much the entire offense at Michigan state and second to none once he got through the hole. Watch the college highlights. He was incredible past the LOS.

Pittsburg ran a lot of man/power stuff, so patience and waiting for things to develop made more sense in that system. In wide zone, the OL is running toward the sideline and it's up to the back to identify a gap and burst through. KW3 doesn't seem to be able to do that.

I don't recall what MSU ran, but the other thing is that a lot of college stars are used to the idea that they can outrun DE/LB to the edge. That's not true in the NFL.

Another advantage Bell had over Walker is that he was a big dude and could hold his own on passing downs. The irony is that Walker's running style would be perfect as a 3rd down back. He excels in open space, but can't get on the field because he's a liability in protection.

 

[94Smith]

@94Smith

How’s Brian Robinson doing this season, I thought he was a steal for the ninnies

Why are you dragging me into this ?

He’s looked great in his limited opportunities but CMC never wants to come off the field and plays 90 percent of snaps

 

[Kamcussionator]

Some of these takes are laughable to say the least. Our lack of production at RB is because of our mediocre OLine. They've been decent at pass blocking, abysmal when it comes to run blocking.

To say K9 or charbs is a bad back is silly, and quite frankly head scratching. He is one of the most explosive backs in the league, and charbs is as solid as they come. When put in the right situation, both backs would be be very productive ad K9 would be challenging for the league lead in yards.

It's not rocket science, if you're constantly getting contacted in the backfield, you're not even getting a chance to get going. We've seen what they can do when they get a creases. K9 is an amazing back. Charbs is a solid 2, I actually liked Mackintosh coming out of school better than Charbs to be honest.

I'm not going to sit here and waste my time trying to convince folks. But if you actually took the time to watch all 22 film, or top billing has some good content as well. You'll see, it's the line blocking, not the backs. Film don't lie.

Not to mention Kubiak is not helping. Everyone knows we struggle running the ball, yet kubiak calls running plays on 2nd and longs constantly. Which then gets stuffed and puts darnold in a third and long, which we all know is not conducive to his success given his struggles under pressure. It drives me crazy.

I thought Sundell and Outz coming back would help the run game, so far that is not the case.

Anyways here's a video explaining what I'm talking about.

I don't know if you saw this, but each of Orlovsky's clips on the Seahawk's running problems featured KW3.

Also, Mina Kimes calling for more boots to slow down the interior pass rush -- great minds think like me...

 

[HagFaithful]

Honestly, I think Macdonald is so adamant about running the ball, our football identity, etc...that I can see us prioritizing new talent at the RB position. Let Walker go. Charbs is still under rookie contract. But I think we target the RB position to improve significantly in FA and/or the Draft.

 

[Kamcussionator]

Why are you dragging me into this ?

He’s looked great in his limited opportunities but CMC never wants to come off the field and plays 90 percent of snaps

I don't know if you've seen this, but 9ers fans are saying that McVay named his son 'Christian' after the Rams' daddy...

 

[seahawks08]

I like Walker, our system is not built for Walker. We are allowing interior pressure consistently in the last 4 games. We will need a scheme adjustment as well as a coach who understands skills and maximizing it. To me he has shown enough explosiveness but lacks confidence. I would feature a one lead back to establish and set the tone rather than rotating backs. Rotational backs still need a lead and a backup to establish a style of running. Why can’t we have Walker or Charb carry the ball a majority of the time so that the system can correct itself. K9 is shifty and Charb is downhill, pick one style and run it to the rate efficiency gets built in. Not a coach, just a personal opinion seeing neither backs get the time or opportunity to establish their skills.

 

[nanomoz]

I am as big a fan of Charbonnet as anyone, but he missed a cutback lane wider than the I5 in a toss to the left on Sunday. If he doesn't get the yards that are there, he won't hold this job.

 

[hawker84]

I don't know if you saw this, but each of Orlovsky's clips on the Seahawk's running problems featured KW3.

Also, Mina Kimes calling for more boots to slow down the interior pass rush -- great minds think like me...

He was calling out the lack of blocking. Said nothing negative about K9.

 

[Kamcussionator]

He was calling out the lack of blocking. Said nothing negative about K9.

Eh, don't listen to what he says, he's just making hot takes. If you watch the tape:
1st play - Walker has a lane off Bradford's right hip and behind the double. Walker runs by it and stops his feet when there's nothing outside. TFL. (If Barner had slid off the double and met 44 in the hole as Dan O suggests, the lane would still be between Bradford and Lucas, so Dan O's comment makes no sense.)
2nd play - Bradford gets cut, but also takes the defender out of the play -- might as well be a pancake -- not sure why Dan O complains about the block. There is a massive lane with a wall of blue shirts to the outside. Walker instead goes inside and then tries to climb over Bradford(wtf?). No gain.
3rd play - Dan O sees the lane this time, but Walker does not. He cuts back into traffic. 1 yard gain.

 

[Trackhawk]

The Catch-22 of K9 in a nutshell.

He needs a full load of carries to get into a rhythm.

He needs his carries limited because his body can’t tolerate a full load.

 

[hawker84]

Eh, don't listen to what he says, he's just making hot takes. If you watch the tape:
1st play - Walker has a lane off Bradford's right hip and behind the double. Walker runs by it and stops his feet when there's nothing outside. TFL. (If Barner had slid off the double and met 44 in the hole as Dan O suggests, the lane would still be between Bradford and Lucas, so Dan O's comment makes no sense.)
2nd play - Bradford gets cut, but also takes the defender out of the play -- might as well be a pancake -- not sure why Dan O complains about the block. There is a massive lane with a wall of blue shirts to the outside. Walker instead goes inside and then tries to climb over Bradford(wtf?). No gain.
3rd play - Dan O sees the lane this time, but Walker does not. He cuts back into traffic. 1 yard gain.

Agree to disagree. I have no idea what you could possibly be looking at. People see what they want i guess..

Not to mention, he's not the only one saying this. I could post 20 videos of different people saying the same thing. But whatever, to each there own.

 

[Azvacar]

LOL what? we are number 4 in the NFL in rushing attempts.

LOL... what? Reading the entire post is now an abnormal thing I guess

 

[RedAlice]

Cam Akers has been: ACTIVATED.

 

[DTiempo81]

LOL... what? Reading the entire post is now an abnormal thing I guess

Second time you have said this. You want us to just ignore a verifiably false claim, because you wrote more stuff after it? Nothing in the rest of your post modified that statement in anyway.

 

[Somos doces]

I’d love for K9 to just go nuts this next game.

It’s like seeing an average 80 year old drive a C8 ‘Vette

You know that mofo can fly but, for whatever reason, you haven’t seen it yet.

Ask and you shall receive!

 

[GemCity]

Ask and you shall receive!

Thank the lort!!

Usually, if I post that someone has been sucking and we need to trade them, they do well (that ol reverse psychology trick).

MOAR POSTIVITEE

 

[SoulfishHawk]

WHAAAAAT? K9 to the house. LFG!!!!!!

 

[CouchLogic]

Give K9 major props for showing up against LA. Some fire and big time plays when it seemed like everyone else was coasting. Dude was an absolute dawg in that win.

 

[JPatera76]

Give K9 major props for showing up against LA. Some fire and big time plays when it seemed like everyone else was coasting. Dude was an absolute dawg in that win.

K9 did what I’ve been wanting him to do all yr.. not think just get the ball and run. And it worked.