Walker vs Charbonnet 2025 (So far)

[Kamcussionator]

I'm not a fan of KW3 as you may know, even though he has a higher ypc than Charbonnet. And I think it's for the same reason I didn't like RW3: for every explosive play there's # of 3rd and longs/3 and outs because he takes a negative play while striving for personal glory. As such, I was looking for some stat sheet somewhere that might have KW3 and Charbonnet's negative play stats.

No luck, but I found these:

Kenneth Walker III 2025 Fantasy Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Get Kenneth Walker III 2025 fantasy stats for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

Zach Charbonnet 2025 Fantasy Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Get Zach Charbonnet 2025 fantasy stats for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

What I found interesting in here was even though KW3 has more snaps in total, in the red zone the ratio flips towards Charbonnet:

Player	Snaps	%	Inside 20	%	Inside 10	%
Walker	408	52	29	45	10	34
Charbonnet	378	48	35	55	19	66

What this suggests to me is that while the coaches value Walker's breakaway speed, they don't trust him when it matters. This will be interesting to watch as the season goes on.

 

[SeahawkSteve80]

K9 just isn’t a good running back…PERIOD!

Poor vision, poor power, now he appears to have lost a step? No thank you.

Charbs is the better back for this team because he actually has average vision, above average power and can break a tackle every now and then. Plus, it’s nice when he’s able to move the pile in short yardage situations, unlike K9 who goes down if the other team so much as breathes on him.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Now THAT is funny ^

It's always super cool when people just make stuff up that doesn't actually exist.
Not trying to argue, but saying K9 isn't a good running back, I just can't take anything you say seriously.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

If we go after a back in free agency, I wouldn't mind them looking at Tyler Allgeier. He is kind of a combo of both backs in one

 

[FreshBoxLive]

K9 is dealing with some kind of lingering injury or something this year. He probably wants to be out there because its a contract year for him. He just isn't squirting through defenders like he usually does.

 

[MORGULON]

I think K Walker would have better results elsewhere.

 

[IndyHawk]

K9 hasn't been much since his rookie year, send him to Pete.

 

[Trackhawk]

Walker won't be worth the money he is going to demand. Not sure why people are so enamored of him. Keep Charbs on his cheap contract. Take the best center or right guard available. Try to poach a Harriss or Etienne level back in free agency, and/or try to get a good back later in the draft.

 

[Sonichound16]

I fully expect them to let K9 go and draft another RB in the upcoming draft.

 

[Azvacar]

Now THAT is funny ^

It's always super cool when people just make stuff up that doesn't actually exist.
Not trying to argue, but saying K9 isn't a good running back, I just can't take anything you say seriously.

I dunno man ... I watch literally every game every snap... They don't run enough to show that he's just not viable for our scheme... I get he has those nice shifty runs.. I also think he does have power.. but his decision making is Anthony Bradford reel style. Until we have a better Oline his style doesnt really promote a benefit to our style ATM... I dunno.. I wanted to like Walker.. but as a whole I dont like our RB corp very much because even though we run it the most.. we are the least effective... so it almost feels like we don't run it at all

 

[DTiempo81]

I dunno man ... I watch literally every game every snap... They don't run enough to show that he's just not viable for our scheme... I get he has those nice shifty runs.. I also think he does have power.. but his decision making is Anthony Bradford reel style. Until we have a better Oline his style doesnt really promote a benefit to our style ATM... I dunno.. I wanted to like Walker.. but as a whole I dont like our RB corp very much because even though we run it the most.. we are the least effective... so it almost feels like we don't run it at all

Don't run enough? They run more than just about every other team.

 

[MORGULON]

I fully expect them to let K9 go and draft another RB in the upcoming draft.

I don't see him being back. But who knows what they think of him. They never ask my opinion.

 

[Azvacar]

Don't run enough? They run more than just about every other team.

So you didn't make it through the entire post.. got it

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Just my take but I feel Seattle and this offensive line is better suited to run block for Charb than K9. Charb’s no non sense, one open gap, and hit that hole is much more of an efficient scheme than K9 bouncing around looking for blockers to make something for him at the edges.

I’d rather run Charb, 20 times, and see how the offensive line blocks for his skillset, 90 percent of the run snaps, than, have the two split carries, and the offensive line don’t get anything established, and can’t find a rhythm, cause they have to block using two different styles.

It seems the best approach, is a single approach and not try to cater to both backs.

Give Charb the majority and bulk carries and let’s see if this offensive line is better run blocking with Charb than having to change styles every time.

Gotta be willing to try something different, if we want something different!

Do it, Kubiak and Mac!

 

[Hollandhawk]

K9 reminds me a bit of Le’Veon Bell with his running style. But when blocks get blown up, you can’t run that way. He was pretty much the entire offense at Michigan state and second to none once he got through the hole. Watch the college highlights. He was incredible past the LOS.

 

[bileever]

I dunno man ... I watch literally every game every snap... They don't run enough to show that he's just not viable for our scheme... I get he has those nice shifty runs.. I also think he does have power.. but his decision making is Anthony Bradford reel style. Until we have a better Oline his style doesnt really promote a benefit to our style ATM... I dunno.. I wanted to like Walker.. but as a whole I dont like our RB corp very much because even though we run it the most.. we are the least effective... so it almost feels like we don't run it at all

I agree with what you say, but how much of it is the fault of the O-line? Or the offensive scheme? There seem to be games when the run game is more effective, but other games where it's non-existent. I think that we have a good enough line that it's up to Kubiak to figure out how to open a lane for the RBs to get through.

 

[DTiempo81]

So you didn't make it through the entire post.. got it

I did. The entire premise of your post is that they don't run enough to show that K9 is viable for our scheme. That is verifiably false.

 

[pmedic920]

K9 reminds me a bit of Le’Veon Bell with his running style. But when blocks get blown up, you can’t run that way. He was pretty much the entire offense at Michigan state and second to none once he got through the hole. Watch the college highlights. He was incredible past the LOS.

Most of us know and understand this.

Unfortunately it’s very common that an elite player at the NCAA level doesn’t have skills that work the same way in the NFL.

I LIKE K9 very much, wanted him on our squad.
Even at that, I’m thinking it may be time to look for another #1.

Is that Charbs, IDK but I do feel the same frustrations as those that are questioning K9’s performance.

 

[pmedic920]

I agree with what you say, but how much of it is the fault of the O-line? Or the offensive scheme? There seem to be games when the run game is more effective, but other games where it's non-existent. I think that we have a good enough line that it's up to Kubiak to figure out how to open a lane for the RBs to get through.

Some guys make shit happen even when the O line doesn’t play perfectly.

#24

I’m guessing that some here are expecting that type of RB.
UNFORTUNATELY those guys are generational.

 

[Dolomight12]

I had really high hopes for Kenny Mac. He SEEMED like the perfect mix/combo of K9 & Charbz