ElvisInBlue
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This is an unusual year for QB prospects. There’s a legit argument for each of the 4 to be ranked anywhere 1-4.Drafting the 4th ranked QB doesn't prevent 3-10 years of non-competitiveness. You are wasting the next 3 years by not drafting for immediate need when you're already a playoff team. Draft a top QB when you need a QB.
We're agreeing too much this offseason.Stand pat, get Anderson. Or trade down if he is off the board.
This is a fantastic draft from round 2 and beyond. The more picks you can add on day 2, the better.
I like the idea but the Jets are likely going to have to part with one of those two picks for Rodgers. If they can get away with a conditional 2024 then their priority is not going to be QB at #5 but rather getting a tackle at #13 to protect Rodgers.The only trade back scenario that seems to make sense is #5 to the Jets for #13 and #43. Trade calculators have that as fairly even value (1700 to 1620).
Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not sure that the Jets would do it. I was just trying to come up with realistic trade down opportunities that would still give the Hawks some chances at getting impact players in the 1st or 2nd rounds this year, and that's about the only one that seemed to work.I like the idea but the Jets are likely going to have to part with one of those two picks for Rodgers. If they can get away with a conditional 2024 then their priority is not going to be QB at #5 but rather getting a tackle at #13 to protect Rodgers.
They have done a great job of filling holes in free agency, allowing them to let the draft come to them.
If Anderson is gone and Carter is off there board. I am good with moving back to 7 or 8 and taking Devon Witherspoon. Witherspoon on one side and Woolen on the other would free up the safeties for blitzing or covering the TE's and RB's out of the flat that have plagued this defense.
It sounds like you're willing to gamble on Carter?Completely agree with the first part...
I just personally would be disappointed if we selected a CB with the first pick. Witherspoon is a hell of a player, but we need interior pressure more than anything. If the only substantive pressure we get is with safety blitzes, it would take about two seconds for NFL offenses to adjust.
I don't care how good your corners are, they can't cover forever in league that officiates with offensive production priority. You have to get some sort of pressure from the trenches to give even the most gifted corner a shot, and quite frankly, it seems like a hot minute since we have been able to do that.
We need a pass rusher. Inside. Outside. Whatever. We need to pressure the QB and barring a QB (I trust JS) anything else with the first pick would be a disappointment.
It sounds like you're willing to gamble on Carter?
I don't think Witherspoon is a match from a measurables standpoint. Less than 32" arms. Smaller frame.
Carter is probably the most talented Defensive Tackle prospect to come out in the last 5 years. He's that good.I'm just confused with Carter TBH Cactus.
Why?
Quite simply, I don't understand the game nor follow CFB like most of you, which is why I've been coming here for more than 15 years.
I understand his OF issues and the perceived lack of effort. What I don't understand is how he went from a consensus top 3 pick and someone most .netters would have given their right nut for to a guy who many now insist has sucked all year and whose hype "they never understood".
Bottom line is I know what deficiency I'd like to see the top draft capital address. I think the biggest weakness is the abilty to put pressure on the QB with the D line. If JS thinks that's Carter at 5, I'm in. If he thinks it's Carter at somewhere else via trade, I'm in. If it's another DT or DE at 5, I'm in.
I'm just tired of us making average QB's look great and below average QB's look good by giving them time to shower, chit, and shave before needing to get rid of the ball.
And I flip flop again. I have no damn idea what we’re taking.Trade down. We’re not taking a QB with the 5th pick.
See what we can get for it!
how so... please notate where that quote "aged well" Full dumb on this board.
I think this is the 3rd time I've pasted this quote lolhow so... please notate where that quote "aged well" Full dumb on this board.
Only muppets listen to the media to base their opinions on.
All while trying to claim they watched all of the college tape so they know
We’ve got the reported character concerns, we’ve seen the poor conditioning, we see how much he is spelled and can legitimately ask whether he’ll be ready for the battle of endurance that is the NFL.
After half-time in the National Championship game, ESPN ran a sideline report that revealed he was ’embarrassed’ by how gassed he was against Ohio State, so he spent the week doing morning sprints.
I cringed when I heard that. You can’t significantly improve your stamina in a week. You don’t try and improve your conditioning between the playoff semi-final and final with the biggest prize on the line. You have to be ready to go in the summer. You need to be ready for the season. Conditioning isn’t something you ‘have a bit of a go at’ ahead of your last game.
If he isn’t taking this seriously when millions of dollars are on the line as he prepares to turn pro — why will he do it when those millions are banked?
I did a bit of digging today and found this press conference from last April. Carter was asked this opening question:
“Coach (Kirby) Smart was just in here talking about how he wants you to step up as a leader, work on conditioning…”
Carter answered:
“I’ve started running more after practise and all that because they told me I could be a top-10 pick and all that, so I’ve done a lot that I didn’t usually do my freshman year and I’ve just been working harder.”
Later in the interview, when he was asked about the areas of his game he was working on, he again reiterated that conditioning was his main focus — specifically doing some extra running because he expected to ‘get a lot of reps’.
Conditioning was raised by the coaches as an area for improvement or greater dedication long before the 2022 season began. Carter acknowledged it and talked about being motivated to act because he wanted to be a high draft pick.
Despite the prompting by coaches and the clear motivation of millions of dollars to earn, his conditioning was a problem during the season culminating, in his words, in an ’embarrassing’ performance against Ohio State.
This is a concern. When Georgia were telling him to work on his stamina he didn’t deliver with millions at stake. What motivation will he have when the millions are banked?
Aged well = Declaring no work ethic issues right before Carter shows up unprepared for pro day and gasses out from a handful of drills. Pathetichow so... please notate where that quote "aged well" Full dumb on this board.
Only muppets listen to the media to base their opinions on.
All while trying to claim they watched all of the college tape so they know