To be fair-should have went to OT

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For as much as we bitched about officiating last week, this was a make up by the refs. That was roughing the kicker. That and they didn't reset the playclock so the first field goal didn't count.

It should have.

That would have put the bills in field goal range at the end of the game to tie it up.

Granted, that might have left enough time on the clock to mount another offensive go at it to still win, or that would have changed the strategy by one or both teams, but the officiating just before half was absolutely ridiculous in our favor.

Atrocious, and if I was a bills fan, I would be livid.

But hey, we won the one we were supposed to, and the offense looked much improved (minus a guttersnipe run game), so lets win the one we are not supposed to next week eh!
 

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Once offsides and clearly unabated the refs should have blown the play dead, but they did not. If Sherman pulls up he gives Carpenter a free kick. If it's good decline the penalty. If he misses take the penalty and try again. Additionally, Sherman clearly touched the football. After that any contact with the kicker is NOT a penalty. The refs were terrible on this whole sequence, but Sherman did what was smart given the situation. I took this from another poster, but I think he explains it well.
 

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I agree, in theory.

In practice I disagree. If the refs were competent enough to blow the whistle for unabated, or if RS felt the refs would be competent enough to call the play dead afterwards if the Bills were allowed a free try, RS should have held up.

However, due to the refs well documented and ongoing incompetence, RS was probably unsure the play would be called dead. Therefore, he made the right decision in ensuring that a free try was not allowed. It appeared to me he made every effort to not rough the kicker.
 

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No it wasn't roughing. I thought so too until I got a good look at the sequence of plays at the end of the first half closely with both slo-mo and stills.

Sherman touched the ball before he touched the kicker. That means there was NO ROUGHING THE KICKER. Blandino was a self-righteous idiot for saying otherwise.

I agree the officials made a dog's breakfast of the rest of the sequence of the first half, but with a 50+ yard field-goal, it was hardly a guarantee.
 
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I thought Blandino said the play was blown dead. If it was not, then I agree as RS did touch the football. It would be very weird if it wasn't as RS was aggregiously offsides.
 

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The play was not blown dead, Richard did touch the football, and it was not roughing the kicker.

It looked clear to me on replay that their kicker was faking the knee injury trying to draw the flag.
 

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johnnyfever":oan0chox said:
I thought Blandino said the play was blown dead. If it was not, then I agree as RS did touch the football. It would be very weird if it wasn't as RS was aggregiously offsides.

Blandino sitting in his office in NYC has no way of knowing if the whistle was blown immediately or not, and the official that DID blow the whistle said (in effect) that it wasn't.

It should have been and it was retroactively changed to be a dead ball foul.....and yes the officials made a dog's breakfast of the entire affair, but Blandino got this one wrong.
 

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johnnyfever":1eu9nw06 said:
I thought Blandino said the play was blown dead.

If he said that, he goes from being a deceptive pos to a flat-out lying pos.
 

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Please don't buy into the narrative they are trying to sell.
 

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Who cares? It's not our job to worry about what the officials call. The officials sucked in our game last week so all is fair. You get some calls sometimes and you don't others. Woulda, coulda, shoulda threads seem weird after winning a game. Just my two cents.
 
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Just looking for facts not conjecture. There were non calls, and good ones in my opinion, on both sides of the ball tonight. Other than the pre halftime series of circus reffing, I thought is was a good game where they just let them play. Holding could have been called every down on both teams.

I just got mixed signals from the broadcast that it was blown dead. Where are you getting your information that FOR SURE it wasn't?
 
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And I fully agree that if it wasn't blown dead that wasn't roughing the kicker.
 

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johnnyfever":2kzi2kvf said:
Just looking for facts not conjecture. There were non calls, and good ones in my opinion, on both sides of the ball tonight. Other than the pre halftime series of circus reffing, I thought is was a good game where they just let them play. Holding could have been called every down on both teams.

I just got mixed signals from the broadcast that it was blown dead. Where are you getting your information that FOR SURE it wasn't?

Walt Anderson and his commentary to the pool reporters. He flat out said that the contact was not a personal foul. He was there; Blandino wasn't.
 
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Polaris":1vgebx8l said:
johnnyfever":1vgebx8l said:
Just looking for facts not conjecture. There were non calls, and good ones in my opinion, on both sides of the ball tonight. Other than the pre halftime series of circus reffing, I thought is was a good game where they just let them play. Holding could have been called every down on both teams.

I just got mixed signals from the broadcast that it was blown dead. Where are you getting your information that FOR SURE it wasn't?

Walt Anderson and his commentary to the pool reporters. He flat out said that the contact was not a personal foul. He was there; Blandino wasn't.

Yes, he did say "it was not a personal foul", but he made no statement as to whether the play was or wasn't blown dead. This is too ambiguous of an explanation as it can be taken as subjective. I'm sure it will get cleared up and a full explanation made. We got screwed last week, so I'm OK getting the other side of bad officiating this week. I do think we got it worse last week though.
 

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Polaris":1ew9qxji said:
johnnyfever":1ew9qxji said:
I thought Blandino said the play was blown dead. If it was not, then I agree as RS did touch the football. It would be very weird if it wasn't as RS was aggregiously offsides.

Blandino sitting in his office in NYC has no way of knowing if the whistle was blown immediately or not, and the official that DID blow the whistle said (in effect) that it wasn't.

It should have been and it was retroactively changed to be a dead ball foul.....and yes the officials made a dog's breakfast of the entire affair, but Blandino got this one wrong.
Deano is and always will be an assclown.
I expect the Hawks to get jobbed next week in NE as "payback" from Deano and Rog, and I doubt we will get a tweet from Deano unless he was justifiying a blown call against Seattle. He is as bad as Mike "Baghdad BOB" Pereira.
 

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Trust me. It wasn't blown dead. There are videos uploaded on NFL.com where you can see for yourself but Sherman hit the ball first, then the kicker, then the whistle blew.

This will never be stated by the national media though.
 

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If the Bills had kicked a field goal at the end of the first half, it doesn't mean everything else would go the same in the second half. Why do people think this?
 

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The main thing is the delay of game penalty. They had three seconds when the play started.
 

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Hawk-Lock":vskf2dy3 said:
The main thing is the delay of game penalty. They had three seconds when the play started.

The penalty was called 8 seconds after the clock struck zero and 13 seconds after the ref blew his whistle to signify they were okay to snap it. They were right on the ball. They blew it. They gave them 8 seconds of leeway.
 
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