Thurmond III needs to be our #2 CB

[Paschtorian]

Lane and Maxwell need to be in the nickle-an'-dime packages.

Thurmond was a #1 CB before he got hurt (and Sherman took his job).

The man has MAJOR skills.

I'm afraid Browner is (way) expendable next season.

Just sayin'.

 

[kinesmajor]

Browner will probably leave for a payday. In this NFL it is inevitable. It's really nice to have depth

 

[dontbelikethat]

Pretty sure he is, but just kicks in on nickle and dime packages probably cause Lane/Maxwell aren't as good in the slot. Slot is a different type of game than being an outside corner.

 

[bestfightstory]

Next season means nada. It doesn't exist. Or, at the very least, it exists beyond the context of how this season ends-which will detail everything that matters.

 

[Basis4day]

Browner will probably leave for a payday. In this NFL it is inevitable. It's really nice to have depth

Dont forget. Thurmond is a free agent next year, just like Browner.

 

[AROS]

Browner may be gone. I see them keeping Thurmond.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Lane and Maxwell need to be in the nickle-an'-dime packages.

Thurmond was a #1 CB before he got hurt (and Sherman took his job).

The man has MAJOR skills.

I'm afraid Browner is (way) expendable next season.

Just sayin'.

I think you're correct. Browner is expendable unless he chooses to work for an under market contact.Thurmond is the real deal. All he needs to avoid is those freak injuries.

 

[drdiags]

According to NFL experts, Thurmond's open market value is going to price him out of Seattle's range. They may not have an opportunity to sign him or Browner unless they do some shifting of contracts. I think they end up with Lane, Maxwell and Simon plus some lower cost veterans or rookies coming in next year. Probaby why they are trying to keep Shead around. Maybe that Fenner guy as well?

We will see next year but don't get too comfy thinking there is an either/or option. May be no option out of the two.

 

[WilsonMVP]

According to NFL experts, Thurmond's open market value is going to price him out of Seattle's range. They may not have an opportunity to sign him or Browner unless they do some shifting of contracts. I think they end up with Lane, Maxwell and Simon plus some lower cost veterans or rookies coming in next year. Probaby why they are trying to keep Shead around. Maybe that Fenner guy as well?

We will see next year but don't get too comfy thinking there is an either/or option. May be no option out of the two.

That would be kind of a bummer if Thurmond wants to be a stickler about his contract. How many injuries did he rack up but the team kept him and had faith in him to come back? Doesnt that mean anything.

 

[Carmon1274]

According to NFL experts, Thurmond's open market value is going to price him out of Seattle's range. They may not have an opportunity to sign him or Browner unless they do some shifting of contracts. I think they end up with Lane, Maxwell and Simon plus some lower cost veterans or rookies coming in next year. Probaby why they are trying to keep Shead around. Maybe that Fenner guy as well?

We will see next year but don't get too comfy thinking there is an either/or option. May be no option out of the two.

That would be kind of a bummer if Thurmond wants to be a stickler about his contract. How many injuries did he rack up but the team kept him and had faith in him to come back? Doesnt that mean anything.

Yet he was still getting paid rookie salary. So what you're saying is right, but if the Hawks sign him to a long deal, there is a possibility he might get injured again. And also to note he mentioned that if he has to get another operation, he might retire for good.

 

[WilsonMVP]

According to NFL experts, Thurmond's open market value is going to price him out of Seattle's range. They may not have an opportunity to sign him or Browner unless they do some shifting of contracts. I think they end up with Lane, Maxwell and Simon plus some lower cost veterans or rookies coming in next year. Probaby why they are trying to keep Shead around. Maybe that Fenner guy as well?

We will see next year but don't get too comfy thinking there is an either/or option. May be no option out of the two.

That would be kind of a bummer if Thurmond wants to be a stickler about his contract. How many injuries did he rack up but the team kept him and had faith in him to come back? Doesnt that mean anything.

Yet he was still getting paid rookie salary. So what you're saying is right, but if the Hawks sign him to a long deal, there is a possibility he might get injured again. And also to note he mentioned that if he has to get another operation, he might retire for good.

I think the SMART offer would be a 1-2 year deal and then if he can prove he can be healthy the whole season than make a larger offer

 

[C-Dub]

Thurmond on a 3 year deal is my guess. I really doubt he signs for anything less, because he's going to be highly sought after in FA. He'll probably command a 4 year deal.

And no way BB strikes a big payday. Not with his age, declining speed, and system dependent skill set.

 

[kf3339]

Aren't guys like Thurmond obligated (if wanted by our front office and PC) to an RFA deal once their rookie contract expires? If so, we can always just give him a first round tender if we can't sign him for a reasonable long term deal. It would make another team signing him have to pay dearly in more than just money. Isn't that correct?

We even have other upcoming rookie deals that this can be done with as well. At least I think that is still part of the new CBA contract.

 

[Atradees]

Browner makes turnovers happen. I hope we keep him. He was a red shirt freshman at Oregon State in the last year of Erickson's tenure in 2002.
So he is getting long in the tooth. At this point he still makes plays. Creates turnovers. FO surprised me with the Kam deal and its richness. So I don't have a intuitive feel
for where they might be leaning based on that move. Could it be that the same system that plucked him from the CFL is being counted on to find his replacement?
I like Thurmond; who doesn't? Injuries and all that.....

BTW Whatever happened to Simon?

 

[uncle fester]

He went on IR with a broken(?) foot initially. Pete said on Brock & Danny a few weeks ago that he was actually healthy and ready to come back but that they weren't in a hurry to make that happen as the other DBs were doing fine. I can see his point but I'm intrigued to see what Simon can do.

 

[drdiags]

He went on IR with a broken(?) foot initially. Pete said on Brock & Danny a few weeks ago that he was actually healthy and ready to come back but that they weren't in a hurry to make that happen as the other DBs were doing fine. I can see his point but I'm intrigued to see what Simon can do.

PUP, he was part of the Scruggs/Harvin group of PUP folks.

 

[Throwdown]

Next season means nada. It doesn't exist. Or, at the very least, it exists beyond the context of how this season ends-which will detail everything that matters.

Beautifully put

 

[drdiags]

Aren't guys like Thurmond obligated (if wanted by our front office and PC) to an RFA deal once their rookie contract expires? If so, we can always just give him a first round tender if we can't sign him for a reasonable long term deal. It would make another team signing him have to pay dearly in more than just money. Isn't that correct?

We even have other upcoming rookie deals that this can be done with as well. At least I think that is still part of the new CBA contract.

I know that Baldwin is an RFA. Thurmond was part of the old-CBA era as one of Pete's first draft. Not sure how the RFAs are determined to tell you the truth but I haven't seen Thurmond mentioned as one of those that can be RFA'd.

 

[bestfightstory]

I'm just seriously happy for the man. He has had to fight through much adversity the past two years.

 

[Happypuppy]

I realize that they are our players and we tend to look at them differently. Most teams will be gun shy about big DB contracts after last years signings ( and flops) of the big name DBs. Pete is old school, build from the defensive backfield up. Most teams it is the DL.

Browner will be 30 and has missed a lot of time. More than any other player on the team he is a product of the system. Gets gets beat over the top and has a very specific role on this team much like Red. I don't see a big demand for him.

WT3 he is a bit more difficult to predict. He is 25 and should be entering his prime. However he has a pretty significant injury history as well. He ls a better than average DB but he was beat a couple times against Minnesota. I just don't see a team in need opening up the checkbook for a often injured DB that's not played all that much for a big $$. He is not even the started here. I think he will be a moderate cost player.

My gut feeling is both may well leave for the even younger players. The only 2 I see on the must sign list are ET3 and Sherman. The rest are pieces that complement them.

We don't want to get old as SF found out. Figure from here on out 10-20% of,your starters each year leave or are signed to low contracts. That's the GB model we seem to follow.