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Im happy about the pick but Doug Baldwin made some crazy plays in actual games. Let’s wait to see how he performs during real games.
Yeah I know Doug was decent but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I just thought it was an odd comparison. JSN is a freak whereas Doug made the best of the abilities God gave him.
 

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Doug Baldwin was a master of the "clean release" at the line of scrimmage. One of the best to ever do it, and because of it, an extremely reliable 3rd down chain mover. Virtually uncoverable on ten-yard patterns. An Antonio Brown level of release at the line of scrimmage. He didn't have nearly the YAC elusiveness of AB after the catch, but probably better hands as well. No offense, but JSN's ceiling is not WAY higher. Probably more like moderately higher due to his catch radius being bigger, but JSN is far from actually proving it on the field yet. This less of a knock against JSN and more about giving proper due to Doug Baldwin.





Like I said, no offense to Doug.

Baldwin was an undrafted small WR that through sheer grit, work ethic and practice turned himself into one of the most reliable WR's in the entire league for 4-5 years.

If you think that's Njiba's ceiling, you haven't watched or read any scouting information on him. Dude's a 6'1 athletic freak of nature that already has the hands, catch radius, wiggle and instincts of a 10 year vet.

No one's slighting Doug, I said ceiling. Doug reached his ceiling, IMO Njiba's is even higher...........and frankly it better be higher as a 1st round pick.
 

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Doug Baldwin was a master of the "clean release" at the line of scrimmage. One of the best to ever do it, and because of it, an extremely reliable 3rd down chain mover. Virtually uncoverable on ten-yard patterns. An Antonio Brown level of release at the line of scrimmage. He didn't have nearly the YAC elusiveness of AB after the catch, but probably better hands as well. No offense, but JSN's ceiling is not WAY higher. Probably more like moderately higher due to his catch radius being bigger, but JSN is far from actually proving it on the field yet. This less of a knock against JSN and more about giving proper due to Doug Baldwin.



He learned from Largent, actually got a hold of him and spent time learning and picking his brain, he also spent time with the Defense during their Hand Fighting drills. Baldwin used his resources well and worked his ass off.
 

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Yeah he was overall as a receiver but JSN has the ability to be so much more. His body control in the air and his ability to haul in passes with one mitt are impressive.

Who am I to argue? JSN might be the next coming of Largent for all I know. The good news for us all is that we are about to find out and it should be a fun ride!
 

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ADB also was one of the toughest players on the team too. He played, and gained 3rd down after 3rd down, in situations where mortal men would be in the locker room with the trainers. I hope Njigba becomes better than ADB, but he needs to play a little before being annointed.
 

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Njig probably won't work 😂
Since we're looking for something beyond JSN and Spoon...since both have equal impact...maybe Spoon's could be "Hammer" then of course JSN becomes "Can't Touch This"...with the song as a Sound Bite whenever they deliver a great play...
 

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Keep hearing good things about this JSN kid, but shouldn't the organization and the fans be worried that he should rest up more and not get a injury like hamstring again?
 

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They will bring JSN in slow and make sure that hammy is gold.
Witherspoon with be out there erasing wide receivers week 1, that guy is gonna be a problem. Hawks D is gonna feast off coverage sacks.
 

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Keep hearing good things about this JSN kid, but shouldn't the organization and the fans be worried that he should rest up more and not get a injury like hamstring again?
This is his "rest time" ...putting on the pads in training camp (10 days away) will allow our team to start to get a better feel of how to utilize JSN. His existing conditioning will be closely monitored by our strength and conditioning staff. From our Seahawks.com site:

Ivan Lewis was announced as the head strength & conditioning coach on February 22, 2019, after five seasons (2014-18) at USC in the same capacity.
Lewis helped return USC to a Rose Bowl championship in 2016 and a Pac-12 Championship following the 2017 season.

Prior to USC, he spent five seasons in the Pacific Northwest (2009-13) as the head strength & conditioning coach at the University of Washington.
He worked directly with the Huskies football team and was named the 2013 Samson Equipment/American Football Monthly FBS Strength and Conditioning Coach of the Year.


He is joined by Thomas Garcia who enters his fourth season in the Seahawks strength & conditioning department after spending his first six seasons with the club serving as a sport science specialist.
 

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I’m going to wait and see on JSN. His body language told me he wasn’t happy getting drafted to be a 3rd receiver.

If develops ADB’s “want to”, then maybe the hype is warranted. He doesn’t have Lockett’s elite quickness, and has average speed. He’s going to have bring something else if he wants to be special.
 

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I’m going to wait and see on JSN. His body language told me he wasn’t happy getting drafted to be a 3rd receiver.

If develops ADB’s “want to”, then maybe the hype is warranted. He doesn’t have Lockett’s elite quickness, and has average speed. He’s going to have bring something else if he wants to be special.
To me and my uneducated eyes, JSN seems to have an ability to suddenly be going in a direction the defender didn't expect him to go after the catch.
 

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I’m going to wait and see on JSN. His body language told me he wasn’t happy getting drafted to be a 3rd receiver.

If develops ADB’s “want to”, then maybe the hype is warranted. He doesn’t have Lockett’s elite quickness, and has average speed. He’s going to have bring something else if he wants to be special.
Body language shmoddy language. Believe me, I get what you're saying. And, while I don't know how you could gather that information from what we saw on draft night...PM if you can read minds, IF that was what he was thinking, I don't think he's silly enough to still feel that way. I mean, he's fully entrenched in THE PETE CARROLL SEATTLE SEAHAWKS by this point in the process. I'm sure if Pete asked him to be a kick returner he would strap his helmet on and give it his best. He doesn't strike me as the type to slack off due to uncontrollable circumstances.

But what do I know?
 

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I’m going to wait and see on JSN. His body language told me he wasn’t happy getting drafted to be a 3rd receiver.

If develops ADB’s “want to”, then maybe the hype is warranted. He doesn’t have Lockett’s elite quickness, and has average speed. He’s going to have bring something else if he wants to be special.
first of all, body language? lol.

Second, he was quicker than Lockett in 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle. His quickness is elite. He ran those faster than anybody at the combine in 2023. Link
 

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What athletic skills point to JSN being "special" besides all the tape on him from 2021?
Jaxon Smith-Njigba RAS (Relative Athletic Score) identified some elite testing results. ...I added Tyler Lockett with his comparable NFL Combine results.

Seahawks WR metrics (AVG)/(BEST MARK)/WORST MARK)/(NFL LEAGUE AVG)

Shuttle (20 yds) JSN 3.93 ...(4.17/3.93/4.5/4.27)
Tyler Lockett 4.07 ...(4.17/3.93/4.5/4.27)

3-Cone JSN 6.57 ...(6.92/6.57/7.38/7.02)
Tyler Lockett 6.89 ...(6.92/6.57/7.38/7.02)

40 Yard Dash JSN 4.48 ...(4.45/4.33/4.57/4.49)
Tyler Lockett 4.4 ...(4.45/4.33/4.57/4.49)

From Profectsports.com
The 3 cone L drill is another popular agility test used in the NFL combine to assess agility, balance, and change of direction. Set Up: 3 Cones, 5 yards apart in L shape Start in a three point stance. Sprint to and touch Cone #2. Sprint back to and touch Cone #1. Sprint up and around Cone #2 toward the inside of Cone #3. Turn around Cone #3, back around Cone #2 and passed Cone #1.

Switch starting cone and repeat in opposite direction.

From nflcombineresults.com
The 20-Yard Shuttle Drill is also known as the “5-10-5 drill,” the “pro agility shuttle” or the “short shuttle” drill. This drill measures short-area quickness, agility, flexibility and the speed at which a prospect can change direction. In addition to flexibility and athleticism, this drill gives scouts an idea of how well a prospect can sink their hips, keep a low center of gravity, and move laterally. This drill consists of three cones being placed 5 yards apart, with the player starting at the middle cone. The athlete begins the drill in response to a verbal “Go” queue, and chooses a direction to turn and run 5 yards to the cone. The player must touch the line, and then turns and runs to the other cone that is now 10 yards away. The player touches the line at the opposite cone, turns and runs the remaining 5 yards back to the original starting position. The time recorded is the total time taken to run between the cones in this manner

The Forty Yard Dash as it’s name implies, involves a player running 40 yards as fast as possible. The clock starts on first movement, so players do not need to react to a gun. The forty yard dash simply measures sprinting speed over a Forty Yard distance and warrants little other explanation. The 40 yard dash should also be taken in the context of the size of a given player. A 6’4″ 220 lb player who runs a 4.40 is more impressive than a 5’9 170 lb player with the same forty time.

From si.com/college/ohiostate
Former Ohio State Buckeyes wide receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba didn't run the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine, but he did at Wednesday's Pro Day. On Smith-Njigba's lone 40-yard dash attempt, he was clocked at an official 4.48-second time.
 

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My daily Hype expectations of JSN are reaching critical mass.
 

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My daily Hype expectations of JSN are reaching critical mass.
My biggest "take" on Jaxon Smith-Njigba is his own acknowledgement of value as being "QB friendly". What might that even mean? Is it an awareness of a QB in duress that has you quickly break off your intended route to quickly provide an open "friendly" target? ...or is it the QB knowing of an available target who is "open" early allowing him to throw as soon as the QB sets his feet? I don't know but I'm pretty sure Geno likes what he is "hearing" from his impactful rookie.
 
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I’m going to wait and see on JSN. His body language told me he wasn’t happy getting drafted to be a 3rd receiver.

If develops ADB’s “want to”, then maybe the hype is warranted. He doesn’t have Lockett’s elite quickness, and has average speed. He’s going to have bring something else if he wants to be special.
How you came to any of these conclusions is beyond my understanding. 🤣
 
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