The latest on Jadeveon Clowney and trade partners.

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SeaChase":2n0f637s said:
With the injury to Lamar Miller, I bet Houston will be looking for a RB instead.

Prosice for a 2037 7th rounder?
 

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OP the problem with your post is not the reference to a tweet. Nor the mentioning of a WR because that is out there.

It is the way you wrote it making it like Lombardi is saying Alson to Seattle is what he is hearing.

That was not what any of the tweets said...
 

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With more details coming out. I'm moving this back to the main forum with a better topic header. Hopefully more details will start to come out in the next day or two.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PFN365/status/1165811000572071936[/tweet]

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One team mentioned as a possible landing spot if Clowney is traded are the Seahawks, a pass-rushing needy defense who traded Frank Clark before the draft. We know that Houston is looking for help at offensive tackle, wide receiver, and running back, so one could speculate that Seahawks RB Rashaad Penny could enter the conversation.
 

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dutchcoug":183wd15f said:
sutz":183wd15f said:
Jville":183wd15f said:
dutchcoug":183wd15f said:
Michael Lombardi is saying on twitter that trade winds are blowing hard, stay tuned. People are saying it involves a WR. More specifically, maybe Alshon to Seattle. Still not sure how I would feel about this. Depends on the price, no higher than a 4th rounder.

Thanks for posting. Links are always welcomed as a manner of courtesy. The only link I see is ..................... [tweet]https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1165029318533234693[/tweet]
........................... without links to specific team or player, the audience would include all 32 NFL teams and players and fans. Given that audience, this thread fits better into the "NFL NATION" forum.

EDIT: The above tweet appears to be a teaser / promotion to listen in on a podcast.
Yeah, OP goes from "Michael Lombardi" to "people are saying." Quite a leap.

Sorry for hurting your feeling for interpreting a tweet and the hear say within the comments. If you don't know what rumor means, I can't help you. I see way more vague rumors on this board that doesn't get you gals riled up. Relax kids.

We've had people in the past who have joined the board just to gain attention for themselves using completely fabricated trade rumors.

The old hands around here will know who's being referenced. Based on your join date, Dutchcoug, you should know who's being referenced. It's one reason some people are tetchy about trade rumors. They don't want their time wasted.

I don't see why that's so unreasonable.
 

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I'm just not sure that the 2019 Seahawks should be giving up assets for what could be a one year rental.

If it's cheap, cool. But Percy, Jimmy and Sheldon should be lesson enough on the pitfalls of giving up anything of significance for another team's star. Though I suppose the success of the Duane Brown trade is a strong counter to that.
 

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kobebryant":1039xogw said:
I'm just not sure that the 2019 Seahawks should be giving up assets for what could be a one year rental.

If it's cheap, cool. But Percy, Jimmy and Sheldon should be lesson enough on the pitfalls of giving up anything of significance for another team's star. Though I suppose the success of the Duane Brown trade is a strong counter to that.

What's the lesson? Harvin was a key to us winning a super bowl, Jimmy for all the criticism was still a pro bowl TE. Sheldon is the only one that was a bust really.
 

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Makes absolutely zero sense... pay money to lose a comp pick to gain one back?


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DJ_CJ":ya64lc6o said:
Makes absolutely zero sense... pay money to lose a comp pick to gain one back?


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You don't lose comp picks for trades though, so I'm assuming you mean trade a low third/fourth pick which we will later receive back as a comp pick if Clowney doesn't stay?

The reason for this would be that you get 1 year of pro-bowl level talent in a year where your first round draft pick lineman has been injured, your first choice interior DL is suspended 6 games and your high profile free agent pickup hasn't practiced all off season.
Then if all turns out well you might even keep him. All fine if you're trading a lower/mid round pick, it's what the Sheldon Richardson trade was supposed to be, except we gave up too much and he's not the same level of talent.
 

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CPHawk":3c4ag3z5 said:
kobebryant":3c4ag3z5 said:
I'm just not sure that the 2019 Seahawks should be giving up assets for what could be a one year rental.

If it's cheap, cool. But Percy, Jimmy and Sheldon should be lesson enough on the pitfalls of giving up anything of significance for another team's star. Though I suppose the success of the Duane Brown trade is a strong counter to that.

What's the lesson? Harvin was a key to us winning a super bowl, Jimmy for all the criticism was still a pro bowl TE. Sheldon is the only one that was a bust really.
:shock: Harvin played in what, 3 games that season? His contribution to the SB win was more fluff than substance. Take out his KOR TD and we still won by more than 4 TDs.

Jimmy was never really a good fit. He wanted to be a WR and played like one. Problem is, our WRs have to block. That was apparently beneath him. People whined about "how do we replace his 10 TDs?" Funny thing, we found a way.

Truth is Pete likes to work with the younger guys anyway.
 

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I may be in the minority, but I would love to see Clowney here. Clowney on one side and Ziggy on the other? Oh hell yes.
 

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SoulfishHawk":2rtub0t8 said:
I may be in the minority, but I would love to see Clowney here. Clowney on one side and Ziggy on the other? Oh hell yes.

Agreed, i would add that just because a trade doesn't work out doesn't mean it's not the right play. If we want to be a contender this year to me Clowney is a must and i don't see how giving up a late second and gaining a later 3rd is gonna hurt us down the road. We have plenty of picks to wheel and deal next year as well. If there was ever a year for Clowney to be motivated it's gonna be this year.
 

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And you make a trade for a beast like least when you have a need. This team CLEARLY has a need for a top tier pass rusher, Clowney qualifies to say the least.
 

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SoulfishHawk":1m4a28p3 said:
I may be in the minority, but I would love to see Clowney here. Clowney on one side and Ziggy on the other? Oh hell yes.

What are you willing to give up for a one year rental player?

We're all in the majority of wanting Clowney here, obviously he's a top tier DE, and we could use one of those. But the rumors are Houston's looking for not only draft pick(s), but a WR.

So IMO as much as we'd love to have Clowney, he's not worth a high pick AND a WR, of which we don't have enough quality yet in that corp either.
 

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Sgt. Largent":3ru2opk0 said:
SoulfishHawk":3ru2opk0 said:
I may be in the minority, but I would love to see Clowney here. Clowney on one side and Ziggy on the other? Oh hell yes.

What are you willing to give up for a one year rental player?

We're all in the majority of wanting Clowney here, obviously he's a top tier DE, and we could use one of those. But the rumors are Houston's looking for not only draft pick(s), but a WR.

So IMO as much as we'd love to have Clowney, he's not worth a high pick AND a WR, of which we don't have enough quality yet in that corp either.

Jazz Ferguson + Gary Jennings + oh, I dunno, let's be generous, a 6th ought to do it. Or make that a 7th and swap out David Moore for Gary Jennings.
 

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Sarlacc83":14c479kq said:
Sgt. Largent":14c479kq said:
SoulfishHawk":14c479kq said:
I may be in the minority, but I would love to see Clowney here. Clowney on one side and Ziggy on the other? Oh hell yes.

What are you willing to give up for a one year rental player?

We're all in the majority of wanting Clowney here, obviously he's a top tier DE, and we could use one of those. But the rumors are Houston's looking for not only draft pick(s), but a WR.

So IMO as much as we'd love to have Clowney, he's not worth a high pick AND a WR, of which we don't have enough quality yet in that corp either.

Jazz Ferguson + Gary Jennings + oh, I dunno, let's be generous, a 6th ought to do it. Or make that a 7th and swap out David Moore for Gary Jennings.

Ahh the old "let's just give the other team a bunch of mediocre/project players instead one good one."

Would you take your trade if you were Houston? My guess is it'd have to be more along the lines of DK and a 2nd oe 3rd. Or a veteran we don't have.

Houston sees themselves as a contender, so my guess is rookie or project players are out. They're going to want a top tier veteran for a top tier DE.
 

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