The idea of Walter Thurmond

[vin.couve12]

Is very different from actual Walter Thurmond. Why are people so ready to cut ties with a talented player who can play more than 30 minutes of football in favor of Thurmond? He won't start, is very average on ST, and can't stay healthy. It's getting to the point were we're getting into Einstein's definition of insanity. I like him as a cover corner, but you just can't depend on him.

We have a 52 man roster with Thurmond. I don't like it, but it is what it is.

 

[kearly]

Thurmond had some injuries in college, but as a Seahawk he had an ACL and then missed time because he was rushed back into action a little too aggressively. That's pretty much it.

The reason you keep Thurmond is because as the saying goes: you can never have too many good corners. The last few times Thurmond took the field was very good. He's currently the fourth corner on a team that keeps six. If Browner and Winfield leave after next season, he could end up our #2 in 2014 should Seattle sign him back.

Maybe Thurmond gets hurt again this year and really does deserve the injury bust label. I don't think he's earned that distinction just yet. ACL is a two year recovery and he stayed healthy in year one.

 

[MORGULON]

Because the idea of Walter thurmond is obviously worth it in JS/PC's eyes.

 

[JKent82]

Broken Leg but yeah. One injury essentially. He was a little banged up in 2010, but only missed two games. He costs nothing to the team to see if he's healthy this year. If he makes the roster, they think he's good enough, and I'm not worried he'll break a leg again. Those aren't exactly common occurrences.

This has been discussed far too much.

 

[-The Glove-]

Because IF he ever gets healthy, he will be special. For the money, there's no reason to drop him for someone that won't probably see the field anyways.

 

[Basis4day]

He only has 1 year left on his contract and doesn't save you much money on your cap. If he's still hurt you can start him on the PUP and he won't count against your 53. After six games you have 3 weeks to activate.

It's fine if you're through with him, but i don't understand the rush to cut him when you can maneuver with the PUP list.

 

[vin.couve12]

Thurmond had some injuries in college, but as a Seahawk he had an ACL and then missed time because he was rushed back into action a little too aggressively. That's pretty much it.

The reason you keep Thurmond is because as the saying goes: you can never have too many good corners. The last few times Thurmond took the field was very good. He's currently the fourth corner on a team that keeps six. If Browner and Winfield leave after next season, he could end up our #2 in 2014 should Seattle sign him back.

Maybe Thurmond gets hurt again this year and really does deserve the injury bust label. I don't think he's earned that distinction just yet. ACL is a two year recovery and he stayed healthy in year one.

That's reasonable, but If he makes the team over the likes of Lane, Maxwell, or Simon it should not come without scrutiny. I've seen this time and again on many teams. They keep a player because of what he shows for a few games each year saying, "one more year...one more year...one mo/" and end up letting a guy go who becomes a valuable contributor for someone else. It's more rare that a player shakes the injuries. In Harvin's case, he's molded his body and added 20 pounds and has been more durable with that.

I know Schneider says he doesn't get into hindsight, but he also drafted Micheal this year stating that he couldn't stand it if he went to another team and became a great RB. I'm not so sure that he isn't an injury bust already, but when cut time comes this will be one to watch for sure.

 

[vin.couve12]

Because the idea of Walter thurmond is obviously worth it in JS/PC's eyes.

Speculation. It remains to be seen whether they make that decision yet again.

 

[vin.couve12]

Because IF he ever gets healthy, he will be special. For the money, there's no reason to drop him for someone that won't probably see the field anyways.

He played pretty good, but that's really, really, pushing it.

 

[vin.couve12]

He only has 1 year left on his contract and doesn't save you much money on your cap. If he's still hurt you can start him on the PUP and he won't count against your 53. After six games you have 3 weeks to activate.

It's fine if you're through with him, but i don't understand the rush to cut him when you can maneuver with the PUP list.

No rush, it will sort itself out. It remains to be seen whether he's PUP eligible. If he's STILL hurt that may be the fork in it because he won't be practicing and would likely be IR. You can't go through TC and then all of the sudden claim in injury from two years ago that you tweaked the year prior UNLESS he actually did hurt it again. And yet again, does that sort itself out?

If he stays healthy that's when the actual tough decision comes in, but will he?

 

[Mick063]

The staff watches his effort level to come back. If they don't like what they see, they let him go. If they see a guy that is so determined, he is inspiring to his teammates, they keep him.

I personally don't know where he stands, but I trust the staff has a very good feel for the situation.

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

He won't make the 53 this year.

 

[vin.couve12]

The staff watches his effort level to come back. If they don't like what they see, they let him go. If they see a guy that is so determined, he is inspiring to his teammates, they keep him.

I personally don't know where he stands, but I trust the staff has a very good feel for the situation.

I can agree with the latter statement to an extent. However, it brings up another question from last year regarding when and why he came back. Did the medical staff let him down......or did the medical/coaching staff trust his judgement on the matter and just let him play?

I suppose for some that question may seem like stirring the brew, but I'd actually be quite curious to see how we handle those situations. Each team is different.

 

[vin.couve12]

Anywhosal, nice discussion this has turned out to be despite the complaint that it's brought up too much.





















.....all ac'in like somebody need to forgive and forget or some ish......


lol I'm joking. I'm just entertaining myself. I tend to do that.

 

[JKent82]

Well it is better than talking about quarterbacks haha. I guess I've just read this thread in several iterations since he pulled the hammy coming back and it comes down to essentially the same line of "he's never healthy" and "Let's see if he's healthy".

Personally I just don't see a lot of discussion to it, he's cheap, let him see what he can do in camp. He obviously has talent. His injuries aren't the nagging sort in my opinion, at least once fully healthy, so I wouldn't be afraid to have him on the team if he's healthy. Maybe he is just made of glass, but I don't buy that.

 

[vin.couve12]

Well it is better than talking about quarterbacks haha. I guess I've just read this thread in several iterations since he pulled the hammy coming back and it comes down to essentially the same line of "he's never healthy" and "Let's see if he's healthy".

Personally I just don't see a lot of discussion to it, he's cheap, let him see what he can do in camp. He obviously has talent. His injuries aren't the nagging sort in my opinion, at least once fully healthy, so I wouldn't be afraid to have him on the team if he's healthy. Maybe he is just made of glass, but I don't buy that.

Fair enough.

It's more rare, but it does work both ways. Some time back I remember the Eagles had Derrick Burgess and ended up letting him go after 3 strait years of IR. 4th year they cut ties and he goes to the Raiders and immediate becomes a pro bowler. It's less common by a long shot, but it does happen. We'll see.

 

[bestfightstory]

Dom will be monitoring this situation very closely.

 

[Smoke]

The thing about WT3, is that he has stuck around despite his injuries. It seems to me that the FO is quick to cut ties with oft injured players, and that the FO see's something special enough with WT3 to keep him around to see if he pans out.

 

[-The Glove-]

Because IF he ever gets healthy, he will be special. For the money, there's no reason to drop him for someone that won't probably see the field anyways.

He played pretty good, but that's really, really, pushing it.

I stand by that statement and will happily eat crow if/when proven wrong. I just see a natural ability to play DB that stands out whenever he's in games. I saw the same thing in Sherman. Said it his first couple starts, he's the best DB we have not named ET.

 

[Tical21]

I'd hate to see him make the roster at the expense of Lane or Simon, if Simon plays anywhere near a high level. I'm just not willing to count on the guy.