The end of an Era, and that's okay.

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Spin Doctor":j99w9fy5 said:
BamKam":j99w9fy5 said:
Mizak":j99w9fy5 said:
Or we could just trade Wilson to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers(who may be still disgruntled) and be back to the promised land in no time.

We need a full reboot. Bringing in another expensive QB wouldn't make any sense. Get a placeholder QB in here until you draft the next guy you think is the Franchise QB while building a team around what you want to do with young talent.
I don't necessarily think we need a reboot. We have a few good pieces that we can still use. We have good TE's in Everett and Dissly, our WR's DK Metcalf and Lockett are objectively one of the best starting WRs in the NFL.

If we could get Rodgers I think he'd be able to do some disgusting things with DK Metcalf and Lockett. As good as Wilson is, Rodgers has a more complete skill set than Wilson does. Lockett and DK Metcalf on quick timing routes would be deadly. Metcalf on a slant route with the ball thrown in stride would be scary.

Our number one issue would be the offensive line. Duane Brown is done, and our center position isn't the best. I really want to see what happens when Gabe Jackson is back at LG and Lewis is back at RG. Shell is doing decently.

On defense we have a few good young pieces in Darrell Taylor, Poona Ford, Brooks, Tre Brown, and our safety duo. A few select free agents and a guy like Rodgers could make us a playoff team again with the right OC and retooling.


Don't agree on Rodgers he.is a major diva and points fingers all the time. And has a huge issue with telling the truth. U want a new qb fine. But not Rodgers or the guy from Texans. That said as long as u have PC it will not matter.
 

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John63":3msc9eif said:
Spin Doctor":3msc9eif said:
BamKam":3msc9eif said:
Mizak":3msc9eif said:
Or we could just trade Wilson to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers(who may be still disgruntled) and be back to the promised land in no time.

We need a full reboot. Bringing in another expensive QB wouldn't make any sense. Get a placeholder QB in here until you draft the next guy you think is the Franchise QB while building a team around what you want to do with young talent.
I don't necessarily think we need a reboot. We have a few good pieces that we can still use. We have good TE's in Everett and Dissly, our WR's DK Metcalf and Lockett are objectively one of the best starting WRs in the NFL.

If we could get Rodgers I think he'd be able to do some disgusting things with DK Metcalf and Lockett. As good as Wilson is, Rodgers has a more complete skill set than Wilson does. Lockett and DK Metcalf on quick timing routes would be deadly. Metcalf on a slant route with the ball thrown in stride would be scary.

Our number one issue would be the offensive line. Duane Brown is done, and our center position isn't the best. I really want to see what happens when Gabe Jackson is back at LG and Lewis is back at RG. Shell is doing decently.

On defense we have a few good young pieces in Darrell Taylor, Poona Ford, Brooks, Tre Brown, and our safety duo. A few select free agents and a guy like Rodgers could make us a playoff team again with the right OC and retooling.


Don't agree on Rodgers he.is a major diva and points fingers all the time. And has a huge issue with telling the truth. U want a new qb fine. But not Rodgers or the guy from Texans. That said as long as u have PC it will not matter.


Why drag down a great thread by posting your tired garbage.

I will always be grateful that I lived long enough to see the Hawks win a SB. Everything is gravy after that. History has shown just how good those first 3 drafts were. I doubt we will see that again for a long time.
 

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Great post and agree its the end of an era, but I don't see it as a wholesale change. There aren't many teams in the league that on defense can say they have a superstar 2nd year pass rusher in the making, same at cb, 2 probowl safeties, a hof MLB and a young OLB who looks to be emerging... and that's the defense...

On offense, the potential a surgically repaired C Carson brings, DK, Everett, Locket, and 3 probowlers on the o-line.

Question is who might be behind center this next go-round...

That in and of itself is the sign of a new beginning.
 

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keasley45":15fiq84j said:
Great post and agree its the end of an era, but I don't see it as a wholesale change. There aren't many teams in the league that on defense can say they have a superstar 2nd year pass rusher in the making, same at cb, 2 probowl safeties, a hof MLB and a young OLB who looks to be emerging... and that's the defense...

On offense, the potential a surgically repaired C Carson brings, DK, Everett, Locket, and 3 probowlers on the o-line.


Question is who might be behind center this next go-round...

That in and of itself is the sign of a new beginning.


2Fwwwreactiongifscom2Fr2F20132F012Fhuh what

The offense line needs a total tear down.

Nothing at LT
Playing a RG out of postion at LG, and is struggling.
Nothing at C
Solid aging Vet at RG
A JAG rental at RT who is a Free Agent

3 Pro-Bowlers…
Bwp8l3fsnf2mcwllm836lycrvqhshrz8etmnr883ridgiphy

Chris Carson, surgically repaired…
200w.webp


Thanks for the laughs today. :irishdrinkers:
 

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justafan":z6eok4k2 said:
John63":z6eok4k2 said:
Spin Doctor":z6eok4k2 said:
BamKam":z6eok4k2 said:
We need a full reboot. Bringing in another expensive QB wouldn't make any sense. Get a placeholder QB in here until you draft the next guy you think is the Franchise QB while building a team around what you want to do with young talent.
I don't necessarily think we need a reboot. We have a few good pieces that we can still use. We have good TE's in Everett and Dissly, our WR's DK Metcalf and Lockett are objectively one of the best starting WRs in the NFL.

If we could get Rodgers I think he'd be able to do some disgusting things with DK Metcalf and Lockett. As good as Wilson is, Rodgers has a more complete skill set than Wilson does. Lockett and DK Metcalf on quick timing routes would be deadly. Metcalf on a slant route with the ball thrown in stride would be scary.

Our number one issue would be the offensive line. Duane Brown is done, and our center position isn't the best. I really want to see what happens when Gabe Jackson is back at LG and Lewis is back at RG. Shell is doing decently.

On defense we have a few good young pieces in Darrell Taylor, Poona Ford, Brooks, Tre Brown, and our safety duo. A few select free agents and a guy like Rodgers could make us a playoff team again with the right OC and retooling.


Don't agree on Rodgers he.is a major diva and points fingers all the time. And has a huge issue with telling the truth. U want a new qb fine. But not Rodgers or the guy from Texans. That said as long as u have PC it will not matter.


Why drag down a great thread by posting your tired garbage.

I will always be grateful that I lived long enough to see the Hawks win a SB. Everything is gravy after that. History has shown just how good those first 3 drafts were. I doubt we will see that again for a long time.

Some of us both appreciate the Super Bowl victory AND want to see the team in a position to grow again instead of eroding.
 

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JustTheTip":1ahiujav said:
Some of us both appreciate the Super Bowl victory AND want to see the team in a position to grow again instead of eroding.

They won't realize it until Pete rolls out 3 straight losing seasons and the franchise is a smoldering pile of rubble.

I can see the threads now. "Okay, I've been a fan a longtime, but NOW Pete has to go."

Let us hope that ownership is not on the same wavelength.
 

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Fade":3l2x70nu said:
JustTheTip":3l2x70nu said:
Some of us both appreciate the Super Bowl victory AND want to see the team in a position to grow again instead of eroding.

They won't realize it until Pete rolls out 3 straight losing seasons and the franchise is a smoldering pile of rubble.

I can see the threads now. "Okay, I've been a fan a longtime, but NOW Pete has to go."

Let us hope that ownership is not on the same wavelength.
At least they'd learn.

When the Russ devotees see him still missing open receivers, scared of the middle of the field, unable to do quick passes or execute an offense on schedule, being garbage on 3rd down, having the worst hard count in the league, and hesitating and taking sacks, it'll almost certainly still be everyone's fault but his.
 

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Fade":2vf14gsx said:
keasley45":2vf14gsx said:
Great post and agree its the end of an era, but I don't see it as a wholesale change. There aren't many teams in the league that on defense can say they have a superstar 2nd year pass rusher in the making, same at cb, 2 probowl safeties, a hof MLB and a young OLB who looks to be emerging... and that's the defense...

On offense, the potential a surgically repaired C Carson brings, DK, Everett, Locket, and 3 probowlers on the o-line.


Question is who might be behind center this next go-round...

That in and of itself is the sign of a new beginning.


2Fwwwreactiongifscom2Fr2F20132F012Fhuh what

The offense line needs a total tear down.

Nothing at LT
Playing a RG out of postion at LG, and is struggling.
Nothing at C
Solid aging Vet at RG
A JAG rental at RT who is a Free Agent

3 Pro-Bowlers…
Bwp8l3fsnf2mcwllm836lycrvqhshrz8etmnr883ridgiphy

Chris Carson, surgically repaired…
200w.webp


Thanks for the laughs today. :irishdrinkers:

Stop making then pass pro 70% of the time and you solve a lot of problems

Gabe Jackson
Damien Lewis
And Brown at LT all rated extremely well last season. The offense under Russball is just a dumpster fire. Fix that and the line will get better.

And word is Carson will have a procedure to fix the issue he had this year. Admittedly the dude has been dinged. But when he isn't he's a top 10 back. And that's what we'll have to start the season next year.

Hey
No problem. Glad it brought you a laugh.
 

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pinksheets":2pc5blye said:
Fade":2pc5blye said:
JustTheTip":2pc5blye said:
Some of us both appreciate the Super Bowl victory AND want to see the team in a position to grow again instead of eroding.

They won't realize it until Pete rolls out 3 straight losing seasons and the franchise is a smoldering pile of rubble.

I can see the threads now. "Okay, I've been a fan a longtime, but NOW Pete has to go."


Let us hope that ownership is not on the same wavelength.
At least they'd learn.

When the Russ devotees see him still missing open receivers, scared of the middle of the field, unable to do quick passes or execute an offense on schedule, being garbage on 3rd down, having the worst hard count in the league, and hesitating and taking sacks, it'll almost certainly still be everyone's fault but his.

This. The only facts they bring are what he ( behind the LOB and Lynch) accomplished early in his career. Every season since has seen him do well for a period and then collapse when defenses figure him out. Then his OC schemes successful plays for him again, and the defenses figure him out. Then they change OCs to grab a bit more magic, and it works... until they figure it out again. Fact is there are only but so many Bandaid 'fixes' to work around the inability to read a defense. And the bag of tricks is about empty. And the legs and reflexes that before made that not matter aren't what they used to be.


I'll put up $500 against anyone's counter bet that Russ won't even be starting by 2025... and likely wont even be in the league anymore.
 

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Seahawk_Dan":2ju09wf4 said:
It may be hard to admit for some, but the Seattle Seahawks Pete Carroll era is done. Maybe even the Wilson era, but that could still yet to be determine. At the very least Carroll is more than likely done after the end of this season.

The Seahawks have accomplished a lot since 2009 when Pete came onboard. A team of scrappy no-names trying to find an identity, to becoming one of the most feared teams in the NFL from 2012-2015 thanks in part to the blossoming of the Legion of Boom, a stagnant but marginally successful period and then since around 2018-2019 a decline and now the bottom gave out in 2021.

There's a lot to be happy and proud of the last 12 (nice) years for the Seahawks team and fans, but I think it's time to rip the band-aid off.

Seattle is not a good team in 2021. They're not even okay. The team is having one of its worst seasons in recent memory and it's not a surprise nor is it a one-off bad season. The chinks in the armor one can say started to appear after a certain pass in a certain game back in 2014. For others it was 2017 after the soft reboot of the roster and the dismantling of the LOB. At the very least for the last 3-4 years there has been noticeable decline of every facet of the team from coaching, scheming, players, and identity. Certain positions have been ignored only to be patched at the last second, expensive contracts to players, signing of no-name Free Agents on the cheap, spending draft picks to fill stop gap players like a fresh face kid out of bootcamp dropping bills at a strip club, a lot of draft misses, coaching nepotism, or what I think is one of the most egregious is the 2021 Draft and only walking in with 3 picks (because you used the rest of your capital on rental players). That alone is unacceptable.

Look I don't want to bash Pete or Schneider or Wilson here, who does deserve a lot of criticism for his piss poor play, but there are plenty of other threads to do that. My thing here for this post is, in the last decade the Seahawks have been a lot of fun to watch. A lot of plays, players, and games will be remembered not just by fans but by the NFL as a whole because of the impact the team made in that time.

The truth now is that the team must start fresh. There is no going back. The memories of past Super Bowl wins, losses, 10+ seasons is irrelevant in the here and now and every coaching regime eventually hits their expiration date (unless you're Belicheck, but he's immortal). We can’t keep dragging our feet and think that for some reason we’re so different that Pete or whoever is so infallible when every team has to change at some point or another.

Many years ago, I had a dvd collection of all Super Bowls 1-40 and the collection highlighted the seasons and the SB themselves, there is a line that described the 49ers in the late 90's early 00's, "The sun finally set on the San Francisco 49ers Dynasty", to me that line is relevant to the Seahawks now. The sun set on the team, but night doesn't last forever and even though it can be cold and scary in the dark the sun rises again.

Excellent post! Nailed it!
 
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