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I wouldn't put too much stock in Lockett's struggles this year. I would not expect him to get his speed back until next year.
 

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acctingman":3u5a2fyc said:
Our WR's are barely above average. We need a legit #1. DB isn't it

You dont need a "#1" to win in this league...you going to tell me that Adam Thielen or Steph Diggs for the Vikings are "#1" WR?
 

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Agree 100%. Rams are young and hungry. Our stars had the success and their only hunger now is for money. The team first mentalitity is long gone. Rams are going to run this division for a while.
 

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Run the division? Hmmm, we shall see. One good season doesn't mean they are magically now the king of the division.
 

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I really didn't hear anything there I can disagree with.

The way this team has evolved under Pete has been interesting, overall positive, and -after 2013/2014 seasons- somewhat predictable. Nothing new, but I think Cowherd is mostly correct.

The big question: where do we go from here? The Hawks are in a somewhat difficult stage of that evolution. It's time for some hard decisions to be made, and we'll need to hit on more of them if the Hawks are to remain competitive. Hitting on more draft picks the past few drafts would have left us in a much better position, but that ship has sailed. It will be an interesting off-season for sure. It's time for a gut-check, top-to-bottom.
 

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He is absolutely correct, and you could see this coming from a mile away. Two seasons ago, I said it was likely to be our last as the NFCW champs. You could see what the Rams were building, and I thought even Fisher couldn't screw that up. I was wrong on the latter part.

I'm not as sold on Garoppolo in SF, but I wouldn't count Shannahan out. He may even have is eye on a replacement in next year's draft.

This will be a telling year for Seattle. Do we get cut throat, retool our salary balance to support Wilson, and retool our entire philosophy of showing our cards and just "being better than you," or do we sink back into mediocrity?

Being said, the Rams don't put up 42 on a completely healthy Seattle defense. No excuse for the offense though. It is way past time for the individuals who are responsible for our offensive philosophy and strategy to be put out to pasture.
 

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I listened to that a lot more closely than I think other people did, and a few points juump out at me:

* Cowherd first says that offensive minds are the key in this league, then gets into "old and entitled" and our ST problems. Which is it, Colin? Are you blaming philosophy or personnel problems?

* He points out that Pete eventually got blown out by Chip Kelly. Am I the only one who noticed that Pete won a Super Bowl in the big leagues and Kelly didn't even sniff success?

* Answer this with a yes/no question, Cowherd: Do you really think that Seattle is as un-competitive as they were yesterday with Kam, Sherman, Avril, and Wagner on the field? I do. Because they beat the Rams in their own house earlier in the season. Admit it, Cowherd: you just don't want to chalk this up to an injury year, because it's a frustrating conclusion that offers no scapegoat.

Cheap take. And not one he would have offered two weeks ago.

Let's stick to the things that do matter. Like McEvoy fumbling. Or Jimmy Graham dropping a pass. Or OL penalties + Jon Ryan's punting repeatedly gifting the Rams good field position on a silver platter.
 

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MontanaHawk05":lda09yfw said:
I listened to that a lot more closely than I think other people did, and a few points juump out at me:

* Cowherd first says that offensive minds are the key in this league, then gets into "old and entitled" and our ST problems. Which is it, Colin? Are you blaming philosophy or personnel problems?

* He points out that Pete eventually got blown out by Chip Kelly. Am I the only one who noticed that Pete won a Super Bowl in the big leagues and Kelly didn't even sniff success?

* Answer this with a yes/no question, Cowherd: Do you really think that Seattle is as un-competitive as they were yesterday with Kam, Sherman, Avril, and Wagner on the field? I do. Because they beat the Rams in their own house earlier in the season. Admit it, Cowherd: you just don't want to chalk this up to an injury year, because it's a frustrating conclusion that offers no scapegoat.

Cheap take. And not one he would have offered two weeks ago.

Let's stick to the things that do matter. Like McEvoy fumbling. Or Jimmy Graham dropping a pass. Or OL penalties + Jon Ryan's punting repeatedly gifting the Rams good field position on a silver platter.

There isn't a person in here who's opinion isn't influenced with what they have seen the last 2 weeks from this team.
 

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I see the analogy, but I disagree with it.

This is football, you CAN win with a nasty young hungry defense and a punishing run game.............and if that's what Pete wants to continue to do? Then god bless him, but he and John have to blow up most of the O-line, RB room and defense and get to work drafting and acquiring the next group of players.

The failure was not being too old, out of touch and letting younger coaches pass Pete up. The failure was clinging to this core group of aging vets hoping for the same dominance.
 

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One thing is for certain. Once you are paying your QB top dollar, there is little to no margin in terms of the rest of the personnel. You can't overpay, you can't make made trades, you can't pay vets that you should let walk. Seahawks have done all of that and how the piper has come to get paid.

Rams and 9ers have 2 more years after this to have a relatively cheap QB. It will be hard to compete with that. Rams do have an issue with Donald if he wants $20M+

Colin's analysis is spot on. ADB is an above average receiver but the rest are truly pedestrian. When we had a run game the impact of the WRs was a lot less. Now teams don't have to stack the box so our passing game is much less effective. It is time to blow this up. And I am not sure Pete is up for the job.
 

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Baldwin and mckissic should be used like a welker type receiver. Prich and darboh are long ball threats. I think prich is a bit to slight in his build to try to use him for short midfield stuff, he could get broken pretty quickly.

I think Colin is a pretty good analyst and has been correct alot both in calling out weaknesses and strengths both in a macro and micro sense.

I also think we would really benefit by getting a smaller back with good hands like a sproles or pope.
 

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Truth stings. disagree with the receiver comment though.. if we had a head coach that would realize we're no longer a run first offense, and a coordinator that knew how to call plays and utilize the talent he has, and an O line that could give our QB more the a second to progress through his reads, our receivers would be doing just fine. I'll put Baldwin up there with just about anyone...
 

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WilsonMVP":3tl1uoty said:
acctingman":3tl1uoty said:
Our WR's are barely above average. We need a legit #1. DB isn't it

You dont need a "#1" to win in this league...you going to tell me that Adam Thielen or Steph Diggs for the Vikings are "#1" WR?
Absolutely they are, those guys are beasts.
 

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MontanaHawk05":3uv7zs52 said:
Let's stick to the things that do matter. Like McEvoy fumbling. Or Jimmy Graham dropping a pass. Or OL penalties + Jon Ryan's punting repeatedly gifting the Rams good field position on a silver platter.

Ryan's short punt is a coaching decision. Not even debatable if you have watched him punt over the years.
 

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RussB":2arfxqey said:
WilsonMVP":2arfxqey said:
acctingman":2arfxqey said:
Our WR's are barely above average. We need a legit #1. DB isn't it

You dont need a "#1" to win in this league...you going to tell me that Adam Thielen or Steph Diggs for the Vikings are "#1" WR?
Absolutely they are, those guys are beasts.

Yup, especially Thielen. He's been one of the best receivers in the league this year.
 

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MontanaHawk05":2z4xlls0 said:
I listened to that a lot more closely than I think other people did, and a few points juump out at me:

* Cowherd first says that offensive minds are the key in this league, then gets into "old and entitled" and our ST problems. Which is it, Colin? Are you blaming philosophy or personnel problems?

* He points out that Pete eventually got blown out by Chip Kelly. Am I the only one who noticed that Pete won a Super Bowl in the big leagues and Kelly didn't even sniff success?

Its an analogy. Chip and John in college go with Kyle and Sean in the NFL. He's also blaming personnel and coaching.
 

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I'm giving Lockett a pass. That injury was nasty. Interested in seeing him next season when (hopefully) he should be fully recovered.
 

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Cowherd is correct.

As to, I would say 4/5 posters here would agree. The lone Carroll supporter SiouxHawk.

I've seen more than enough to justify sending Carroll out the door.

Hell, the Hawks can win 50-0 against the Cowboys this Sunday and I would still call for Carroll's dismissal.

Colin is totally spot on, the game has evolved, Carroll has been figured out, the superbowl 48 core group has a lot of issues, and Carroll is not a person that will evolve his strategy and philosophy.

Carroll is done.

Please Paul Allen, please move on from Pete Carroll. You are our only hope.
 
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