Tate not happy with us

[drdiags]

Listen to the actual audio of the interview, you can hear it in his tone. He is SO MAD. "They were offering people 3 times what I was gonna get".... I'm still trying to figure out who they offered 12 Mil/year since our offer was apparently around 4 Mil a year.

Percy Harvin, in case you weren't kidding.

 

[OffseasonChampions]

Listen to the actual audio of the interview, you can hear it in his tone. He is SO MAD. "They were offering people 3 times what I was gonna get".... I'm still trying to figure out who they offered 12 Mil/year since our offer was apparently around 4 Mil a year.

Percy Harvin, in case you weren't kidding.

Well Harvin is getting an average of 10/year, but anger causes exaggeration so it makes sense.

 

[NYCoug]

I'm torn about this. I liked Golden during his time here. He improved every season and you could tell that he put in a lot of work to get his game to where it's at right now. I thought that this past season would be his statistical breakout season but it was never destined to happen in Seattle. Not in this offense at least. Not yet. I think he has that breakout season this upcoming year in Detroit. He's bound to go off, if he stays healthy and hopefully he does.

What's really sad about this is that there are actually human beings that are taking time out of their day and talking trash about this guy, on Twitter, during a time where he should be able to enjoy this no doubt bittersweet moment in time with his family. Super Bowl Champion, new big contract, bright future. He's got a lot more going for him than those attacking him on Twitter do, that's for damn sure.

What's just as sad is that Golden is actually engaging these people and paying attention to them and letting it get to him. He just can't help himself. That's why I don't do Twitter. I've tried to get in to it, mostly from people telling me that I'll never make it as a writer if I don't do twitter but at the end of the day, it's just not me. I hate it actually, so why would I engage in something I hate? I walked away from it, which is what I'd still do if I were an athlete. ESPECIALLY if I was an athlete. Marketing be damned. That's the quickest way to a little bit more privacy as an athlete, which is rare for them.

Sad that it's all going down like this. Hopefully the saying holds true and time heals all wounds. Golden goes on to be one of the best receivers in the NFL out in Detroit, and the Seahawks do what they do and find a replacement who ends up being an improvement, and keep on winning Lombardi's. Everybody wins and everybody lives happily ever after. Whatever happens, he's definitely setting up an interesting return to the Seahawks at the end of his career :snack:

 

[Largent80]

First of all if you are on Twitter you deserve what you get. You expose everything about your life on there, a big no thanks from me, I'll never be on that site.

Secondly, he is giving himself way too much credit.

 

[OffseasonChampions]

"I'm never going to have to go against a #1 Cornerback in Detriot, which is fine because I dominated those guys too"

LOL, Yep he "dominated" other teams #1 corners. I think his value off himself is just a tad bit too high.

 

[OffseasonChampions]

Out of all of his recent replies to his Tweets the past week on Twitter maybe 4 or 5 are negative and the rest positive. The guy is a drama queen and playing the "woe is me" card.

 

[Davehawk]

First of all if you are on Twitter you deserve what you get. You expose everything about your life on there, a big no thanks from me, I'll never be on that site.

Secondly, he is giving himself way too much credit.

Well, in defense of Twitter you only expose what you want to expose on there. It's entirely up to you what pictures you post and what you say/react to.

 

[-The Glove-]

First of all if you are on Twitter you deserve what you get. You expose everything about your life on there, a big no thanks from me, I'll never be on that site.

Secondly, he is giving himself way too much credit.

Well, in defense of Twitter you only expose what you want to expose on there. It's entirely up to you what pictures you post and what you say/react to.

This... I don't post shit on there. I get most of my breaking news from there. That's it

 

[TeamoftheCentury]

So, this Tate conversation continues. I've posted before about Tate and tried to keep an even keel. While I'll miss seeing him play for the Seahawks, it's all more about the business side of it than we understand when that is said.

Positive:
Someone said he overvalues himself. (Perhaps a bit.) But, I loved the player Tate and thought he was a near perfect WR for this team. I didn't like the comparison to Hines Ward... because it was Hines Ward. But, yeah... he's like a tough RB playing WR so that is a fitting compliment.

Whether or not Seattle throws the ball enough for WR's liking, players need to play smart when they get the ball. Most of the time, I loved what Tate did in YAC. But, sometimes he drove me nuts running backwards after getting the first down and hurt the team that way. Yeah, sometimes fighting for those extra yards turn into electric big plays. The deal is... if you're going to do that, you can't take a loss. Smart players KNOW the down and yards to gain. That's basic. No, I'm not saying Tate isn't a smart player. But, I'll say he does have room to improve in some of the mental aspects of the game. He has continued to get better and better and his future with the Hawks looked on the verge of potential greatness. Would have loved to see Wilson and Tate continue developing together.

Not so positive:
Comparisons with others contracts and jealousy, envy, whatever creep in and the truth comes out that players are only team players if one feels respected by their team. So, there are conditions. So, "team" probably and truthfully isn't the most important thing. Yeah, I know people want to "take care of their families" (we all do) and you can admire that all you want. The team aspect supposedly comes in once contracts are settled? Trouble is... there's not that many players who are satisfied/content with their contracts enough for that to not be a constant issue. Where's the gratefulness... not only for compensation but also simply for the opportunity?

It's a bit disappointing that he's not sounding as grateful as he should be to the Seahawks for drafting him and working with him to get him to this point. I think he initially went that route, but then whatever riled him up changed his tune (truth came out?) Sounds more like Tate did them a favor and they owed him?

Of course we all would have rather seen all this worked out differently than it has gone.

Thanks for the memories, Tate. Hope you can be part of a Lions team that rises to the top of that division. You'll be missed by the 12's.

 

[Anonymous]

A sad state of affairs, no matter how you slice it.

The fact that so many of us, here on .NET, are looking at this as one of the common fallout issues from a player like this leaving, and are shrugging this off accordingly, means we seasoned-12's have been paying attention. Golden-haters were going to be coming out of the woodwork regardless of what social platform gave them a voice to do so.

Twitter is great for getting what the player has on his mind out there, but not for much else, IMHO.

 

[chrispy]

It seems to me that Tate wrote his own story in Seattle. He was a 2nd round draft pick in 2010: the same draft that landed Earl Thomas and Russel Okung. He got 3.25 million on his rookie contract. In my opinion, he came into the NFL expecting it to be easier than it was. He really had no impact for more than a year. There was talk, at the time, that he wasn't putting forth the effort that other rookies were. I understand that you have to give young players some time. That said, there are plenty of receivers that come into the league and contribute immediately. When people say he improved every year, that's very true. He had 227 total yards and didn't start any of the 16 games. His second year he played in all 16 games, started 5 and had 382 yards for the year and 3 touchdowns. I think it's fair to say, that over the first 2 years he didn't 'give the Seahawks all he had.' Perhaps I'm being harsh. But quite frankly, a second round pick should be contributing significantly in their second year in the league. Either he didn't have the skill level the FO expected or the "chip on the shoulder" work ethic or the cerebral capacity to implement a new system. I don't know, but it seems reasonable that these first 2 years and Tate's success might have an impact on how the FO viewed him longterm.

I like Tate. I'm not bashing on him, or I'm not trying to. I wish he was still a Seahawk. But he was drafted to be a difference maker. He was given a lot of opportunity to be that. He has the talent to be that. Maybe he will be that in Detroit. I hope so.

Tate was drafted at pick #60. This year, the Hawks have pick #64. If they pick a WR, who here would be satisfied with that player averaging 24 yds/game? If they did only that, that player would have contributed at a level above Tate's Sophomore season.

I just think Tate played like he expected the game to come to him instead of attacking it. Maybe that changed in the past two seasons some, but can you reasonably expect that to be consistent and pay him knowing it hasn't been consistent in the past? So Tate's value is a certain number. To the Hawks it's just not as high as he wants it to be. Hopefully, now with being allowed to walk, he can play with that chip on his shoulder. Hopefully he feels snubbed and wants to prove the world wrong. I'd love to see that.

 

[WilsonMVP]

It seems to me that Tate wrote his own story in Seattle. He was a 2nd round draft pick in 2010: the same draft that landed Earl Thomas and Russel Okung. He got 3.25 million on his rookie contract. In my opinion, he came into the NFL expecting it to be easier than it was. He really had no impact for more than a year. There was talk, at the time, that he wasn't putting forth the effort that other rookies were. I understand that you have to give young players some time. That said, there are plenty of receivers that come into the league and contribute immediately. When people say he improved every year, that's very true. He had 227 total yards and didn't start any of the 16 games. His second year he played in all 16 games, started 5 and had 382 yards for the year and 3 touchdowns. I think it's fair to say, that over the first 2 years he didn't 'give the Seahawks all he had.' Perhaps I'm being harsh. But quite frankly, a second round pick should be contributing significantly in their second year in the league. Either he didn't have the skill level the FO expected or the "chip on the shoulder" work ethic or the cerebral capacity to implement a new system. I don't know, but it seems reasonable that these first 2 years and Tate's success might have an impact on how the FO viewed him longterm.

I like Tate. I'm not bashing on him, or I'm not trying to. I wish he was still a Seahawk. But he was drafted to be a difference maker. He was given a lot of opportunity to be that. He has the talent to be that. Maybe he will be that in Detroit. I hope so.

Tate was drafted at pick #60. This year, the Hawks have pick #64. If they pick a WR, who here would be satisfied with that player averaging 24 yds/game? If they did only that, that player would have contributed at a level above Tate's Sophomore season.

I just think Tate played like he expected the game to come to him instead of attacking it. Maybe that changed in the past two seasons some, but can you reasonably expect that to be consistent and pay him knowing it hasn't been consistent in the past? So Tate's value is a certain number. To the Hawks it's just not as high as he wants it to be. Hopefully, now with being allowed to walk, he can play with that chip on his shoulder. Hopefully he feels snubbed and wants to prove the world wrong. I'd love to see that.

Coincidence that the last 2 years have coincided with Wilson being here as the QB? The man whos worth Ethic is rediculous and whos leadership is off the charts. I have no doubt Wilson had a huge Impact on Tate improving.

 

[Seahawks1983]

Not that I blame him for taking significantly more money, but he kind of brought these reactions on himself by saying he'd take less money to stay, then leaving for more money. Its pretty simple, don't say things like that.

His real mistake was expecting the morons of the fanbase to understand that taking a small discount is not the same thing as taking whatever lowball offer the Seahawks gave him.

 

[Laloosh]

Guy made some cool plays but he also came up short. Was re-watching the week 17 game against St. Louis last night and he was too slow/short to get to a deep ball that I couldn't help but think Harvin would have brought in at the 5:00 mark of Q1.

Sorry dude. Enjoy the bigger money in Detroit but do us all a favor and stay off of the airwaves if you're going to talk trash. Guy who admittedly did jack squat in his first two seasons. Talked about how patient the organization was with him, etc. Now he's "under valued".

Bye.

 

[Scottemojo]

Guy made some cool plays but he also came up short. Was re-watching the week 17 game against St. Louis last night and he was too slow/short to get to a deep ball that I couldn't help but think Harvin would have brought in at the 5:00 mark of Q1.

Sorry dude. Enjoy the bigger money in Detroit but do us all a favor and stay off of the airwaves if you're going to talk trash. Guy who admittedly did jack squat in his first two seasons. Talked about how patient the organization was with him, etc. Now he's "under valued".

Bye.

He had a hell of a game week 17. He was a punching bag for STL and he kept getting up. I have a hard time knocking him for one play in that game.

 

[MVP53]

First of all if you are on Twitter you deserve what you get. You expose everything about your life on there, a big no thanks from me, I'll never be on that site.

Secondly, he is giving himself way too much credit.

Exactly. Complaining about twitter is like walking into a crack house and saying, "Jeez, don't you people ever mop in here?"

I also think it's tacky for Tate to air out his contract negotiation in public.

He is a PROFESSIONAL athlete, so maybe time to start acting a little more professional.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Listen to the actual audio of the interview, you can hear it in his tone. He is SO MAD. "They were offering people 3 times what I was gonna get".... I'm still trying to figure out who they offered 12 Mil/year since our offer was apparently around 4 Mil a year.

Percy Harvin, in case you weren't kidding.

Well Harvin is getting an average of 10/year, but anger causes exaggeration so it makes sense.

Percy's extension was for $64M, Tate's offer was for $20M

That's 3x more.

 

[plyka]

I just re-watched the 49ers/hawks NFCCG he was basically nowhere to be seen, on run plays he didn't even seem to make an effort to block. On the kearse 4th and 6 he was blanketed.
Wilson just straight up favored Kearse/Baldwin since Tate never got open. Pete Carroll likes to try and find players that stand out in championship games, that Tate hasn't done well in playoffs alone probably showed there's little more progress we could have made with Tate. I think he hit his peak here and will only find success in Detroit because Megatron will have everyone on him. But he'll still disappear against good secondaries.

Everyone is saying he will be successful in Detroit, but I quite frankly doubt it. I've never been very high on Tate as a WR, because I don't think he is a real WR. He is a hybrid. I guess Percy is also a hybrid, but Percy is elite level WR and elite level RB, while Tate seems like an average WR and below average RB. Anyway, I don't think he will work well in their system. Stafford is a pocket passer. 3 step drop, 5 step drop, 7 step drop --and pass. It's about route running, using your phsycal skills to get open. Tate does not excel in that area. Tate excels at running after the catch. He can run an ok slant, and he has great hands. But if the DB is covering him 1 on 1, takes away the slant, I just can't see Tate being very good with Stafford. He had more luck in this system, because Wilson is not pocket passer. He will roll out, he will scramble, he will give you time to break off your routes and get open.

My guess is that Tate will regress next year, even though he is playing next to Calvin. In Seattle he disappeared even though they covered him 1 v 1, due to the fact that they had to crowd the line of scrimmage to defend against Lynch.

 

[OffseasonChampions]

Listen to the actual audio of the interview, you can hear it in his tone. He is SO MAD. "They were offering people 3 times what I was gonna get".... I'm still trying to figure out who they offered 12 Mil/year since our offer was apparently around 4 Mil a year.

Percy Harvin, in case you weren't kidding.

Well Harvin is getting an average of 10/year, but anger causes exaggeration so it makes sense.

Percy's extension was for $64M, Tate's offer was for $20M

That's 3x more.

LOL, if you live under the illusion that all contracts are played out. Tate's offer was for 4 or 5 years, not 6.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

I suppose the class on being humble and showing humility is not one they require in his college. Those things that keep your drive in the upper levels also are the same ones that make you prosper when you are in front of the camera or out on the street talking up your team. There is a place for proper talk and a place for being humble. Remember, it is all about that action.....Boss.