Take away Tate's TD

[pmedic920]

Looks like the NFL is thinking about another rule change. If this happens, Tate's TD would not have counted. I know we are divided on how we felt about Tate's actions but should the rule be changed? This is being reported on BR so who knows what is actually being considered. I couldn't pull the link on my phone but here is a screen shot.

Edit: move if better in NFL section.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Man, the NFL sucks. Let's hope this doesn't happen.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Jesus Christ NFL, let the guys taunt each other. We watch football for entertainment. Don't make football tantamount to a stodgy board meeting high up in a corporate tower filled with crusty old men in suits.

 

[jkitsune]

Oh for God's sake, because 15-yards after the play isn't commensurate with the severity of the offense? That's ridiculous. I agree with Tate being penalized, it was a stupid thing to do, but he still scored an 80-yard touchdown without the aid of a penalty which somehow impeded the defense from stopping him. :roll:

This isn't Pop Warner, guys. You're allowed to be a dick sometimes.

 

[THUGCAPS]

Oh no, here we go. Another 10 page argument anyone?

 

[HawkFan72]

This is stupid. The taunting has nothing to do with the fact that Tate beat them and scored. The taunting does not affect the TD being scored.

To take away a score because an opposing player's feelings might be hurt is just idiotic.

 

[Basis4day]

That is PFT making something out of nothing.

“A lot of people felt that the touchdown shouldn’t have counted [but] a taunting foul is always treated as a dead-ball foul, meaning whatever happened during the play counts, and the foul is enforced on the next play, which would be the kickoff,”

Who is a lot of people? 10?100?1000? Owners? Fans?

The article simply quotes and idea from the NFL head of officiating and states his opinion that the competition should look at it.
These are grown men in a non-injury situation. If the other player needs to wipe his nose he can use one of the million Nike towels on the sideline.

 

[Hawknballs]

Things that don't possibly affect the outcome of the play or the remainder of the game shouldn't be penalties that take points off the board.

Personally after watching Quinn and Long revel in their glorious domination of lesser talent to bury or QB and make a dramatic display every time, I don't have a problem with the taunt. I know people have the opinion of "Score first!" or "he almost got tackled!" but no he didn't. he scored.

I like seeing these guys actually look like they are emotionally invested in playing the game, stop making it sound like the NFL should be some lame sterile branch of the military or something. It's a GAME that dudes play for a living.

 

[ClumsyLurk]

Good thing Marshawn waits until after crossing the goal line before eating his Skittles.
Meanwhile - ACL injuries seem to be at an all time high... wth with that?

 

[HawkFan72]

Things that don't possibly affect the outcome of the play or the remainder of the game shouldn't be penalties that take points off the board.

Personally after watching Quinn and Long revel in their glorious domination of lesser talent to bury or QB and make a dramatic display every time, I don't have a problem with the taunt. I know people have the opinion of "Score first!" or "he almost got tackled!" but no he didn't. he scored.

I like seeing these guys actually look like they are emotionally invested in playing the game, stop making it sound like the NFL should be some lame sterile branch of the military or something. It's a GAME that dudes play for a living.

Exactly. They need to eliminate all celebration if they are going to start taking away scores.

What Quinn and Long were doing after every play made me just as angry as whatever Tate did to them. It's all taunting. Long smashing the ground as a symbol of sacking Wilson isn't a taunt?

Eliminate it all, or leave it as it is. Officials getting to pick and choose what is taunting and what is not and having the power to remove points is just a disaster.

 

[Starrman44]

Yet a QB can be splatted on the ground and the defense can turn around and celebrate. Who cares about it all. Let their personalities come out. I honestly don't care. It all comes back on that player any way because other players will dislike him and some fans will turn on him. He'll have to deal with it. I'm not a big fan of penalizing taunting.

 

[OrFan]

He thinks they may take a look at it. This is one person who doesn't really know if it will even be brought up.

I think that at some point they may take a look at using a smaller round ball with gloves like in baseball. His opinion at this time carries not much more credit than my absurd one.

 

[ClumsyLurk]

Only high fives should be allowed. It doesn't get any more civil than the high-five.

Only caveat: a high five requires at least two people and there is a rule against multi-player celebrations.

 

[BWRyan]

Jesus Christ NFL, let the guys taunt each other. We watch football for entertainment. Don't make football tantamount to a stodgy board meeting high up in a corporate tower filled with crusty old men in suits.

Seconded.

And I'll add, the only thing I ever thought was over-the-top was the orchestrated celebrations. Owens' Sharpie, Steve Smith's cellphone. Those were so stupid. But anything within the playing field I'm generally OK with.

 

[keatonisballin]

Do they seriously have nothing better to do than attempt to run the league into the ground? Seriously, this is a big boy league, who is getting their feelings hurt over something so trivial?

 

[seabowl]

I didn't even know it was a penalty if the taunt occurred while the play is still going on. Also as others have mentioned if you are going to penalize this then all the sack dances, TD dances, first down arm motions etc.. Need to be penalized as well. No matter how you look at it, it's all taunting.

 

[McGruff]

Taunting during the play should be a spot foul, IMO. If that's what the NFL is suggesting, then it makes sense to me.

 

[Hawknballs]

Taunting during the play should be a spot foul, IMO. If that's what the NFL is suggesting, then it makes sense to me.

I hope you meant to use this :sarcasm_on:

 

[McGruff]

I didn't even know it was a penalty if the taunt occurred while the play is still going on. Also as others have mentioned if you are going to penalize this then all the sack dances, TD dances, first down arm motions etc.. Need to be penalized as well. No matter how you look at it, it's all taunting.

There is a difference between celebrating (sack dance) and taunting (gyrating your junk in the face of the flattened QB). The difference in Tate's case is holding the ball high as you run into the end zone or leaping into the end zone, or waving at an opposing defender.

The difference is obvious to reasonable people, including most refs.

 

[McGruff]

Taunting during the play should be a spot foul, IMO. If that's what the NFL is suggesting, then it makes sense to me.

I hope you meant to use this :sarcasm_on:

Nope. No sarcasm. Tate's taunt was completely out of line. He admits it. And the Seahawks suffered little repercussion from it.