STAND IN THE POCKET AND THROW THE BALL

[SonicHawk]

Seahawks pass-blocking is 19 of 32 according to FootballOutsiders and that takes into account sacks, which RW tends to take.

 

[Anthony!]

Before we go further, please define great. And please, share more examples of 'greatness'.

Also, how many great games per week are played by NFL QBs?

You already defined great as doing something beyond avg, Well guess what Rw did so even by your defition he was great. Yout further said the Bilsl game was great and I showed were he played better as a QB against Zona than he did against the Bills. Seems like you have already answered the question, by both of your deinitions he was great.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

 

[Anthony!]

Seahawks pass-blocking is 19 of 32 according to FootballOutsiders and that takes into account sacks, which RW tends to take.

for one dude I said 19th and it does take into account sacks like the oline likes to give up. It doe snot take into account thenumber of times RW escapes sacks. Sacks other QBs would take.

 

[Anthony!]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

 

[SonicHawk]

Before we go further, please define great. And please, share more examples of 'greatness'.

Also, how many great games per week are played by NFL QBs?

You already defined great as doing something beyond avg, Well guess what Rw did so even by your defition he was great. Yout further said the Bilsl game was great and I showed were he played better as a QB against Zona than he did against the Bills. Seems like you have already answered the question, by both of your deinitions he was great.

Wilson ran for 3 TDs in one half and blew the doors off the Bills. I'm sorry your unable to understand the difference.

Your 'defition' of 'great' as 'beyond average' is simply wrong. Great is 'exceptionally' above average. It's a performance that you won't see for a long time. I feel like Russ can dump it off for 17-22 any day of the week. That's not special, that's not great.

 

[SeaChase]

Seahawks pass-blocking is 19 of 32 according to FootballOutsiders and that takes into account sacks, which RW tends to take.

for one dude I said 19th and it does take into account sacks like the oline likes to give up. It doe snot take into account thenumber of times RW escapes sacks. Sacks other QBs would take.

That's all opinion. Other Qb's could get the ball out before taking a sack...

 

[SonicHawk]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

This o-line would probably look better. A guy who moves around a lot makes it hard for big fat guys to protect.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

And with Peyton Manning behind it, it might be mistaken for the best of all time.

Of such influence is the role of a QB.

 

[Anthony!]

Before we go further, please define great. And please, share more examples of 'greatness'.

Also, how many great games per week are played by NFL QBs?

You already defined great as doing something beyond avg, Well guess what Rw did so even by your defition he was great. Yout further said the Bilsl game was great and I showed were he played better as a QB against Zona than he did against the Bills. Seems like you have already answered the question, by both of your deinitions he was great.

Wilson ran for 3 TDs in one half and blew the doors off the Bills. I'm sorry your unable to understand the difference.

Your 'defition' of 'great' as 'beyond average' is simply wrong. Great is 'exceptionally' above average. It's a performance that you won't see for a long time. I feel like Russ can dump it off for 17-22 any day of the week. That's not special, that's not great.

I said QB and made a point of it so once again you are chanign the paameters. No place before this post did you mentino rushing it was all about passing, now you want to add that, huh once again changhing things to prove you point. You may feel Rw can dump it off 17-22 every day, funny then why it deos not happen for every QB every game. But you are again forgetting 17/22 with a 9.6 YPA is not dumping it off. You do not avg 9.6 YPA just dumping it off. again nice try, still failed.

 

[Anthony!]

Seahawks pass-blocking is 19 of 32 according to FootballOutsiders and that takes into account sacks, which RW tends to take.

for one dude I said 19th and it does take into account sacks like the oline likes to give up. It doe snot take into account thenumber of times RW escapes sacks. Sacks other QBs would take.

That's all opinion. Other Qb's could get the ball out before taking a sack...

to whom? You are assuming someone would be open, you are assumign they have time.

 

[Anthony!]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

This o-line would probably look better. A guy who moves around a lot makes it hard for big fat guys to protect.

LOL yeah right you really should watch the games. Let me help you since 2007 this oline has not ranked higher than 18th but one time and that was only 14th. It only rnaked higher than 20th 3 times. There has been several different QBs over that time, so it is not a QB issue at all.

 

[SonicHawk]

My god, you're just saying words now.

I never ever ever said RW's game in Buffalo was great because he threw for 400 yards and 5 TDs. You're the one who assumed (very incorrectly) that it had anything to do with him throwing the ball.

Compare his game against Buffalo with his game yesterday (in earnest) and tell me taht you don't see a difference?

 

[SonicHawk]

LOL yeah right you really should watch the games.

I'm sorry, but you're too much of a challenged person to have a conversation with.

 

[SeaChase]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

This o-line would probably look better. A guy who moves around a lot makes it hard for big fat guys to protect.

LOL yeah right you really should watch the games.

I think you should learn football. 300lb guys aren't quick and nimble and when a Qb is scrambling around and changing directions it does make it that much harder to block.

 

[Anthony!]

Peyton Manning had an awful O-line in Indianapolis. It was quickly revealed to be bad as soon as he was replaced there by Curtis Painter.

David Carr had a good O-line in Houston. Everyone quickly realized it once Matt Schaub stepped in for him and improved the offense, while Carr's sack rate followed him every team he went to.

The QB has a huge role in his own pass protection.

Agreed it does, without Rw this oline would look even worse.

And with Peyton Manning behind it, it might be mistaken for the best of all time.

Of such influence is the role of a QB.

Yeah right, except you are forgetting Manning would be running his offense, have made sure we got better WRs, and most importantly being Manning you can bet we woudl hve done more to imnprove the line, ROookie RW gets to deal with it, HOF Manning would have changes made. nice try.

 

[Anthony!]

LOL yeah right you really should watch the games.

I'm sorry, but you're too much of a challenged person to have a conversation with.

Pot calling the kettle black dude.

 

[SonicHawk]

Hey, no need to be racist.

 

[Anthony!]

I think you should learn football. 300lb guys aren't quick and nimble and when a Qb is scrambling around and changing directions it does make it that much harder to block.

Actually you should know football if 300lb guys do not block it forces a QB to move. So if they want him to not move they shold do their jobs.

 

[Anthony!]

Hey, no need to be racist.

:lol:

Its an old saying dude not racist, well unless your a pot that is