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If we don’t make it how does it affect our draft? Is missing the playoffs more helpful in the long run than squeaking in and losing first round?
brimsalabim":m48a6xwk said:If we don’t make it how does it affect our draft? Is missing the playoffs more helpful in the long run than squeaking in and losing first round?
Uncle Si":23iwym5l said:Aros":23iwym5l said:It's quite simple. Regardless of this Sunday, if we can't beat the shitty Cardinals with playoffs on the line AT HOME then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.
Essentially yes.
This weekend is about seeding..
Real interesting battle is mn and philly
If philly wins out, mn has to win out as well, or they miss the playoffs. Seattle could get the 5th seed if they finish 9-7, beating the Cards, and philly or mn dont win out.
Philly hosts the Texans then at Washington.
Mn is at Detroit than host Chicago
nepahawk":2rvx1zix said:We only have to win 1 of the last 2 games, to guarantee a playoff spot.
Hawk-Lock":2d987dgj said:People are way over thinking this. We are in the playoffs. There is a reason we had a 97% chance of making the playoffs after the Minnesota win.
brimsalabim":2awq07kl said:If we don’t make it how does it affect our draft? Is missing the playoffs more helpful in the long run than squeaking in and losing first round?
sdog1981":ssw9ie8d said:Polaris":ssw9ie8d said:sdog1981":ssw9ie8d said:We will know after the Early games on Sunday. If Houston and Tennessee win the Seahawks are in.
Not quite technically. Even if both Washington and Philly lose (which is what you posit), Seattle would still have to win to be in OR Minny would have to lose (to Detroit) as well. What Seattle has to avoid is a tie with Washington without beating Arizona.
8 win Washington is in over 8 win Seahawks due to win percentage in common games. I don't think I've seen that one before.
Silver Hawk":rb2g9n76 said:sdog1981":rb2g9n76 said:Polaris":rb2g9n76 said:sdog1981":rb2g9n76 said:We will know after the Early games on Sunday. If Houston and Tennessee win the Seahawks are in.
Not quite technically. Even if both Washington and Philly lose (which is what you posit), Seattle would still have to win to be in OR Minny would have to lose (to Detroit) as well. What Seattle has to avoid is a tie with Washington without beating Arizona.
8 win Washington is in over 8 win Seahawks due to win percentage in common games. I don't think I've seen that one before.
If it came down to the 8-8 scenario, the Seahawks and Redskins would tie on conference record. They would also tie on common games. So, the next tie break would be strength of victory, which would be a bit of a crap shoot.
As far as common games, each team would have 4-1 records. The common games include AZ, GB, Carolina and Dallas. You have 5 games each since Seattle plays AZ twice and Washington plays Dallas twice.
Aros":u4fyxo7t said:It's quite simple. Regardless of this Sunday, if we can't beat the shitty Cardinals with playoffs on the line AT HOME then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.
Seahawkfan80":ztllr0s1 said:Silver Hawk":ztllr0s1 said:sdog1981":ztllr0s1 said:Polaris":ztllr0s1 said:Not quite technically. Even if both Washington and Philly lose (which is what you posit), Seattle would still have to win to be in OR Minny would have to lose (to Detroit) as well. What Seattle has to avoid is a tie with Washington without beating Arizona.
8 win Washington is in over 8 win Seahawks due to win percentage in common games. I don't think I've seen that one before.
If it came down to the 8-8 scenario, the Seahawks and Redskins would tie on conference record. They would also tie on common games. So, the next tie break would be strength of victory, which would be a bit of a crap shoot.
As far as common games, each team would have 4-1 records. The common games include AZ, GB, Carolina and Dallas. You have 5 games each since Seattle plays AZ twice and Washington plays Dallas twice.
Ok...this is a little muddy for me. I do understand that Washington plays Dallas 2 times, we play them one time. I understand that we play Az 2x and Washington played them one time. So How do we get to the common games that they use both dallas games and we use both Az games? I would think that we would use a win as a barometer as it is based on wins. If they end up 1-1 in the division, the win takes precedence. If they go 0-2 or 2-0, then wins dont really matter with exception of the amount of wins. One game is common opponents, is it not? We did not play Dallas 2 times, only one? UW only played Az one time, not twice. I looked at the site and it did not specify. I also looked for how they would determine this more by scores and there was a distinct method.
https://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
Please advise.
Seymour":mrt9znsd said:Aros":mrt9znsd said:It's quite simple. Regardless of this Sunday, if we can't beat the shitty Cardinals with playoffs on the line AT HOME then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.
Exactly why I'm not worried about it. It comes down to beating the Tards at home, and if we don't then it wasn't meant to be anyway.
Sgt. Largent":2q984bfs said:Seymour":2q984bfs said:Aros":2q984bfs said:It's quite simple. Regardless of this Sunday, if we can't beat the shitty Cardinals with playoffs on the line AT HOME then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways.
Exactly why I'm not worried about it. It comes down to beating the Tards at home, and if we don't then it wasn't meant to be anyway.
I think even if we lose the last two games we still have like a 50% chance of making the playoffs, cause we hold tiebreakers on everyone else.
Not that it's the greatest thing, to limp into the playoffs. But it's also not the dire situation people are making it out to be that these are MUST win games.
But yes, if we can't beat an atrocious Cards team fighting for the #1 pick in the draft?
Silver Hawk":fffgted1 said:Not that I disagree with your point about the Cards but I was wondering, as a broader topic, how does a team go about “tanking”?
I would think that most, if not all, players would not intentionally tank. Every snap they play is an audition for a new contract, positioning for the next season or a spot on another team. The coach might be desperate to win, thinking it protects his job.
So, how does it happen? A coach that is not desperate calls a crappy game with bad decisions?
Sgt. Largent":17npndiz said:Silver Hawk":17npndiz said:Not that I disagree with your point about the Cards but I was wondering, as a broader topic, how does a team go about “tanking”?
I would think that most, if not all, players would not intentionally tank. Every snap they play is an audition for a new contract, positioning for the next season or a spot on another team. The coach might be desperate to win, thinking it protects his job.
So, how does it happen? A coach that is not desperate calls a crappy game with bad decisions?
In other sports tanking is a real thing, like what the Mariners are doing now. Sucking for years trying to rebuild the roster the right way in order to achieve sustained success in the future.
But I don't believe tanking in the NFL exists, as we saw last weekend in Santa Clara. The NFL is a impatient win now or else your job's in jeopardy type of league. Owners aren't down with sucking on purpose in order to MAYBE get a high draft pick, of which is no guarantee of working out for you.
As we saw with the Niners, everyone on the Cardinals will be fighting for their jobs and therefore highly motivated to win and possibly knock us out of the playoffs.
Having said all this, you do see teams quit in the 2nd half of end of year games because football is also a game of effort and will.............and when you're not going anywhere, it's much harder to give that effort when you're not playing for anything.
That's why I said the biggest mistake we made against the Niners was allowing that KO return for a TD after we scored on the opening drive. You gotta step on these team's throats early and don't let them hang around and try.
Sgt. Largent":2aepw27e said:But I don't believe tanking in the NFL exists, as we saw last weekend in Santa Clara.
Seymour":1ty6mfdp said:Sgt. Largent":1ty6mfdp said:But I don't believe tanking in the NFL exists, as we saw last weekend in Santa Clara.
Disagree.
I saw SeaBass tank it in the first half on Sunday.
He checked out like he had a hot date with a triple cheeseburger. :snack:
Seymour":1iw5adxk said:Sgt. Largent":1iw5adxk said:But I don't believe tanking in the NFL exists, as we saw last weekend in Santa Clara.
Disagree.
I saw SeaBass tank it in the first half on Sunday.
He checked out like he had a hot date with a triple cheeseburger. :snack: