So much for running it back.

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Suggesting there are better QBs is not the same as saying I think we should trade Darnold. I would think even this board isn't delusional enough to rank him first in the league.
 

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There's something that should be obvious to any impartial observer after this early free agent period: this is now the third-best team in the NFC West. Third-best coaching, third-best talent.

While the dynasty thing would have been cool, no amount of an inevitable short-term future of fringe playoff contention and picking 18th-20th in the draft will take away from how fun this past season was. Go Hawks.
The same coaching staff, and basically the same team, that went 6-2 vs the NFC West (4-2 vs the other two good teams) is suddenly the third best?

I can see an argument for the Rams getting significantly better on day 1 than they were last year, while we largely treaded water.

The Niners, though? They signed an aging Evans, and look to lose Jennings, Aiyuk, and Williams. Their offense still runs through CMC, who looks worse every year. Their defense is full of holes that may or may not be shorn up when their stars return from injury. They have one of the all-time chokingest of coaches, and they still haven't figured out how to keep their players healthy.

They have a ton of draft capital, with 7 picks in the top four rounds. That seems a much more likely area where they can drastically improve the team. I'm not impressed with their free agency moves, so far. They seem more like a Hail Mary, than a surgically focused plan.
 

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I’ve noticed a trend.

Do you have anything positive to say about what JS/MM are doing?

Or are you just upset about them paying the one guy?

How many times have you typed “21 yards” in the last few days?

All serious questions
When I was a lil gaffer, I had a record that was the same way...it was also very annoying. 🤪
 

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Sadly, many prefer doom and gloom and can never just admit they were wrong, about anything, ever.
Then again, some people actually think MEHdeur Sanders is a franchise QB.
 
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Typically, you need to experience something before you can be "used to it".
I was starting to regret bringing in that month-old quote of yours, but I think it's been good for you.

Regarding your comment about us not being delusional enough to think Sam is the best in the league - 'best in the league' doesn't always win Super Bowls. Sam fits out team, arguably better than a few quarterbacks who we might argue are "better". Argue all you want, but Sam has exceptional physical quarterback skills. And when you look at his 'team' skills, he's much better than Aaron Rodgers. Then look at his pure 'decision-making' skills on the field, and you put him miles above Dak Prescott. Watching Mahomes this year, I wonder if Sam isn't also a little better at handling adverse situations - possibly from qb'ing on bad teams - than Mahomes or even Stafford. There's a lot more to being a 'great' quarterback than stats.
 

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I was starting to regret bringing in that month-old quote of yours, but I think it's been good for you.

Regarding your comment about us not being delusional enough to think Sam is the best in the league - 'best in the league' doesn't always win Super Bowls. Sam fits out team, arguably better than a few quarterbacks who we might argue are "better". Argue all you want, but Sam has exceptional physical quarterback skills. And when you look at his 'team' skills, he's much better than Aaron Rodgers. Then look at his pure 'decision-making' skills on the field, and you put him miles above Dak Prescott. Watching Mahomes this year, I wonder if Sam isn't also a little better at handling adverse situations - possibly from qb'ing on bad teams - than Mahomes or even Stafford. There's a lot more to being a 'great' quarterback than stats.
I don't disagree with any of that. There's a reason I haven't suggested attempting to replace him.
 

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Suggesting there are better QBs is not the same as saying I think we should trade Darnold. I would think even this board isn't delusional enough to rank him first in the league.


I’d not say he’s first.

I’m curious about your list of who’s better.

Should be about 12 if I understood your previous post.
 

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First time he throws an interception, you probably will.

/sarcasm
His red zone play went from horrible to 'really good' at the end of the season. From what I remember, at the end of the season when Darnold was so good in the red zone, Kubiak did not avoid the kinds of plays that Darnold mucked up earlier in the season. In fact, Darnold described in an interview, plays in the red zone where he threw the ball out of bounds when it wasn't safe. I remember a few of those plays late in the season, and they weren't horribly uncatchable, but no way the defender was getting them.

What I'm really wondering is: will Darnold start 2026 the way he finished 2025? And I think a lot of that will depend on the new OC. Kubiak 'let Sam saute' (runscott 2026), but will the next guy?
 

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No doubt, VERY few saw this is a SB team. Shoot, many of us. I figured next year they would make the SB. Pleasant surprise. Like someone mentioned, about a 30 percent turnover. Esp. if a team win the SB, they're flat out going to have players plucked.
Expecting the same roster every year is just not realistic. Frustrating, but not reality. Every team will have turnover on their roster.
Am I concerned about the running game if we lose K9? Absolutely.
It’s funny how you get two choices, salary cap and you lose all your players all the time, or no cap and you get the dodgers. It’s almost like dh vs no dh, purist vs realist, elements of both are fun
 

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I have fun with all of it. I don't mind being called out on my opinions, and I certainly have no problems calling people out. I expect it on both sides. And I certainly deserve backlash from time to time. To ME, the doom and gloom is hilarious. That's all.
 

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The Niners, though? They signed an aging Evans, and look to lose Jennings, Aiyuk, and Williams. Their offense still runs through CMC, who looks worse every year. Their defense is full of holes that may or may not be shorn up when their stars return from injury. They have one of the all-time chokingest of coaches, and they still haven't figured out how to keep their players healthy.

They have a ton of draft capital, with 7 picks in the top four rounds. That seems a much more likely area where they can drastically improve the team. I'm not impressed with their free agency moves, so far. They seem more like a Hail Mary, than a surgically focused plan.
It'd be easier to take you seriously if you weren't suggesting Aiyuk is a significant loss.

The Niners consistently do more with less than any team in the league. They won 12 games with a lot of their key guys hurt, and most significantly, they have, unquestionably, the best QB in the NFC.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks just had one of the luckiest seasons in NFL history, with nobody important getting seriously hurt, and winning a number of games off unforced errors by the other team (Steelers, Cards, Rams). These things have a way of regressing to the mean.
 

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FFS man. They just won the fricken Super Bowl, and all you can come up with is they had "one of the luckiest seasons in NFL history"

Again, EXACTLY what I said would happen has happened. Hawks WIN the SB, followed by a select few downplaying it. And borderline talking sh** about the Hawks. All while building up the Rams and Niners like they are the ones who won the SB.
Blatant refusal to just ENJOY A SUPER BOWL VICTORY. Holy hell.


This feels like the Twilight Zone.
 

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