Should ALL PF's 15yds plus auto 1st down be reviewed?

[tom sawyer]

It would slow the game, but some calls the angle is poor, the refs have good intentions but flawed perceptions.

And if you get a couple bad calls on a drive thats "1/3 of the field", one hell of an advantage. Totally unfair!!

 

[ceej22]

No. It sucks but it's part of the game. Start doing that then it will be unfair when a team has to punt on 4th and 15 because the ref missed a PI call 20 yards down field. Plus as you have already mentioned it will slow the game down and that is not good for the NFL business model.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

That's the problem with subjective penalties, they can't be reviewed.......because then you're taking away one refs subjective opinion for another ref's subjective opinion. So in the end you're not fixing anything, and the correct call still might not happen.

In fact you'd probably see MORE penalties called if they were reviewed, cause everything looks worse in slow motion.

 

[Cartire]

No. It sucks but it's part of the game. Start doing that then it will be unfair when a team has to punt on 4th and 15 because the ref missed a PI call 20 yards down field. Plus as you have already mentioned it will slow the game down and that is not good for the NFL business model.

Non flags wouldn't be reviewable.

Also, as soon as the NFL adopts the college replay system which is far superior, the game won't slow down that much.

 

[nsport]

You know, I was thinking about the review process lately - and it just plain blows chunks. Why should it take 5 minutes or more to review a call? College football does it in a few seconds. I think egregious blown calls should be up for review by the officials only, and not the guys on the field. A more complete replay system would be great for the game...

 

[themunn]

Not so much personal fouls, but pass interference spot fouls should absolutely be reviewable

 

[Diezel Dawg]

Not so much personal fouls, but pass interference spot fouls should absolutely be reviewable

Or At least able to challenge them

 

[Hawks46]

Not so much personal fouls, but pass interference spot fouls should absolutely be reviewable

I agree with this, but those "bang, bang" plays that are so hard to call (like helmet to helmet) should absolutely be reviewed.

That call against Irvin was the worst I've seen in a long time of the whole "defenseless receiver" line of calls.

 

[amill87]

I think any penalty resulting in a first down should be challenge-able.

Do not give coaches any more challenges, so they will have to use strategy when to use them. And they would need to be sure it was worth it, less they would lose timeouts.

It doesn't completely fix the problem but it helps. It would require help from the league office though. I think it should be taken out of the hands of the refs on the field that messed up in the first place. Give it to the guys who always tell teams a week later that the refs got it wrong.

 

[tom sawyer]

The cameras catches things the refs don't. when a personal foul "looks like" one from one angle and the camera reveals that it obviously was NOT from another... well, that's unfixable. The refs can't see as much as all the camera angles. If it's a minor penalty ...no biggy really, they can educate them later. But the big ones, the 15+Auto-1st?!!

 

[ClumsyLurk]

They should all be reviewable, but they shouldn't all be reviewed. Thats my 5.3/vol.

 

[SeaTown81]

We need constant booth reviews. Have a couple guys upstairs watching the reviews the entire game with the authority to call BS when the guys on the field horrendously botch a call. I don't want more of the current review system because it's stupid and slows down the game. Forcing teams to risk losing time outs just because you can't get calls right is ridiculous. Come on, NFL. Stop protecting your refs and hold them accountable.

 

[Hawknballs]

I don't understand why the NFL doesn't just review all plays as best they can like college and step in when they notice something egregious. I also don't get why some things aren't reviewable. I constantly hear TV commentators talk about what is not reviewable and for the majority of them I don't quite understand why it would matter any more than any other challenge.

 

[sutz]

They tried that a few years back. Nobody liked it, so they stopped. Then came the Testaverde helmet incident and they brought Replay/Review back with limited use. They've tweaked it a couple of times since then. Perhaps the technology is better now, but nobody really likes the idea of the eye in the sky looking over the refs' shoulders constantly. Random calls for reviews from the skybox kind of warped the game a bit, too.

I like the idea of limiting how much yardage a penalty can award. IMHO it should never be more than half the distance to the goal. Your idea of reviewing all long plays has some merit, but I don't think it would work as well as you think.

 

[Cartire]

Anyone who thinks that replay couldn't be improved doesnt watch college football.

 

[dusktreader]

Come on, NFL. Stop protecting your refs and hold them accountable.

This! The NFL and Referees spend so much time covering each other's butts, it's sickening. You know after a big penalty when all the refs huddle up to discuss? How many times have they picked up the flag and said 'no penalty'? Seems like it should happen at least occasionally, but it hardly ever does. To me, that communicates that the officials are more concerned with protecting their own than keeping the game fair.

These huge drive and game changing penalty flags are really disrupting the game. After a big play, I feel like I can't even celebrate because there's laundry on the field so often. I've felt for a long time (since the original Instant Replay days) that penalties need to be review-able or at least challenge-able.

My own mini-rant: it absolutely, positively should not be the referee on the field that looks at the film. He has a !$$#!@ stake in the outcome of the challenge. If he overturns a call, he is essentially saying he and his crew messed up.

It really seems like the Referees and the NFL do everything they can to keep a lid on the really bad calls, and they are doing very little to change it. I absolutely don't buy the garbage about any conspiracy to help favorite teams out or force parity, but I do think the NFL could be doing something about it. When you have a head referee come out 3 years later and say his crew changed the outcome of "The Big Game", you should be taking a closer look at how to leverage technology to hold referees accountable.

 

[tom sawyer]

Come on, NFL. Stop protecting your refs and hold them accountable.

This! The NFL and Referees spend so much time covering each other's butts, it's sickening. You know after a big penalty when all the refs huddle up to discuss? How many times have they picked up the flag and said 'no penalty'? Seems like it should happen at least occasionally, but it hardly ever does. To me, that communicates that the officials are more concerned with protecting their own than keeping the game fair.

These huge drive and game changing penalty flags are really disrupting the game. After a big play, I feel like I can't even celebrate because there's laundry on the field so often. I've felt for a long time (since the original Instant Replay days) that penalties need to be review-able or at least challenge-able.

My own mini-rant: it absolutely, positively should not be the referee on the field that looks at the film. He has a !$$#!@ stake in the outcome of the challenge. If he overturns a call, he is essentially saying he and his crew messed up.

It really seems like the Referees and the NFL do everything they can to keep a lid on the really bad calls, and they are doing very little to change it. I absolutely don't buy the garbage about any conspiracy to help favorite teams out or force parity, but I do think the NFL could be doing something about it. When you have a head referee come out 3 years later and say his crew changed the outcome of "The Big Game", you should be taking a closer look at how to leverage technology to hold referees accountable.

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