Short yardage issues

[SoulfishHawk]

He is capable of high pointing it, he literally did it on a TD this season. The throw was weak.

 

[Appyhawk]

His refusal to run, especially with his speed and athleticism, is beyond criminal.

One very big thing in Geno's favor during the game yesterday is that he didn't turn the ball over once. That was huge. He deserves props for that as encouragement for the future.

As for our short yardage issues I don't ever recall seeing a team get 8 chances from the 5 or closer and fail every single time. That is a serious ISSUE.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

ROLL OUT!!

And roll the right way… with the blockers ughhh!!!

been saying this for 2 ******* months now.....

 

[keasley45]

The fade pass is a terrible low percentage play, especially when DK doesn't high point the ball, nor does he have the best body control to pull it off. Delete this from the play book until we have the right personnel to execute it.

I have noticed that too. If ADB had DKs physique he would have set every record known to man.

It doesn't help when the ball is thrown too low, which I have seen a few times by Geno, but DK just does not have that elite sense of space, timing and body control, to say nothing for his hands and insistance on catching the ball with his body.

The one connection he had from Geno up the sideline was nice though...

 

[toffee]

We're using Jalen Sundell in that role. Didn't really help unfortunately. It's just details. The offense lacks fundamental chemistry. The details are all wrong. They're out of sync constantly.

I don't think Grubb is going to last. I don't think Mac is happy with him.

Time to be decisive, young Macdonald bite the bullets on LBs, now time to bite that OC bullet

 

[cymatica]

They called for a roll out. What did geNO do? He stopped running to his left and literally spun back into a sack.
gePICK also missed an open Fant in the end zone. EASY touchdown.

Grubb is on my last nerve, but the players need to also be accountable.

Yes Geno absolutely ruined the play, but it was a horrible play call. Rolling out to Geno's left at the 1/2 yard line eliminating half the field in an already condensed field, without a fake, is just plain stupid

 

[Maelstrom787]

They called for a roll out. What did geNO do? He stopped running to his left and literally spun back into a sack.
gePICK also missed an open Fant in the end zone. EASY touchdown.

Grubb is on my last nerve, but the players need to also be accountable.

Single play samples in which the receivers are all clearly covered and the rollout is blown up by penetration don't really disprove the point that he's making though. The red zone playcalling has been atrocious and the offense is wholly devoid of detail and synchronization.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Once again Geno not only this game has quite a bit of time to throw and didn’t..

He had opportunities to run and refused to.. again.

This. He's stopped running. Not sure why. But he's stopped.

 

[Maelstrom787]

This. He's stopped running. Not sure why. But he's stopped.

Outside of Geno's playstyle, it's likely that it also is a coaching preference. Grubb is an aerial OC, I could imagine him telling his quarterback to stick in that pocket for as long as he can to try to push the ball downfield rather than looking to bail.

 

[keasley45]

They called for a roll out. What did geNO do? He stopped running to his left and literally spun back into a sack.
gePICK also missed an open Fant in the end zone. EASY touchdown.

Grubb is on my last nerve, but the players need to also be accountable.

Saw that. Wouldnt be surprised if there was something open, but tight, that he passed on it to avoid the INT risk.

 

[cymatica]

He is capable of high pointing it, he literally did it on a TD this season. The throw was weak.

That's like saying the oline is capable of getting a yard on the ground when the other team knows they're running. I think I've seen them do it once, so let's forget about the other 99% of the time they get manhandled.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm not talking about the O Line, we know they suck. Claiming DK can't high point it is hilarious, to me. Believe what you want, I'm not here to argue.

 

[keasley45]

Outside of Geno's playstyle, it's likely that it also is a coaching preference. Grubb is an aerial OC, I could imagine him telling his quarterback to stick in that pocket for as long as he can to try to push the ball downfield rather than looking to bail.

Yup.

Matty and Griff talked about this. He hands in trying to wait for the explosive because our offense is lacking in them so badly.

Problem is, we dont scheme to build up to the explosive. Part of that is not having a run game, but the other issue is that even the pass play selection has no rhythm and doesnt build logically to integrating deep shots. Its like Grubb is up there with a sheet of his favorite plays and is just randomly selecting them.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Play calling has been brutal. But so has the almighty Geno Smith in the Red Zone.

You call me the condescending one constantly, yet you are incapable of having a discussion without saying something like "the almighty Geno Smith."

Why?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not going down this road again. We will never agree on Geno, I'm good with that. I'll stop talking to you about it, and you can stop talking to me like I'm 5 years old.
He has been horrific in the red zone this year. Along with the O Line and the play calling. ALL of them are contributing. I already had one timeout, that was enough for me to know to walk away from having a conversation w/you about Geno. It accomplishes nothing.

Seems like a win win.

 

[keasley45]

That's like saying the oline is capable of getting a yard on the ground when the other team knows they're running. I think I've seen them do it once, so let's forget about the other 99% of the time they get manhandled.

Yeah. Its pretty crazy that he is as experienced as he is and so often forgets where he is on the field, forgetting to get his toes in bounds ( the missed TD in game one against the 49ers), not high-pointing balls, and letting the bal get in to his body when he can catch it with his hands.

All of that and he makes high school mistakes like always wanting to leave his feet for a catch...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Geno threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds on the fade. And that's DK's fault? It wasn't close to catchable.

On the other hand, that long pass to DK over Sauce was incredible.

 

[Ozzy]

They called for a roll out. What did geNO do? He stopped running to his left and literally spun back into a sack.
gePICK also missed an open Fant in the end zone. EASY touchdown.

Grubb is on my last nerve, but the players need to also be accountable.

Agreed. It's not all Grubb. Geno had a wide open TE and flat out missed him for the touchdown. If he hits it does Grubb suck? It appears he called the right play there yet we didn't execute. It's hard to take the Grubb sucks seriously if someone NEVER mentions execution. I also saw multiple running lanes wide open for Walker and he missed them and ran into defenders. I love Walker but he didn't execute multiple times either.

Now Grubb needs to get better. I'm a fan of Grubb but he has to figure something out and get these guys into better positions to win.

Matty also said Pete's defense was perfect and there was nothing wrong with the scheme when literally everyone else who broke down the tape said Seattle was stale. I take what he says with a grain of salt. He's also been horribly wrong on multiple players over the years. His opinion is no better than anyone else just because he knows formations.

 

[Ozzy]

Geno threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds on the fade. And that's DK's fault?

It's always someone else's fault is what I've learned these past few weeks.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

To quote the great Metallica: Sad, but true.