Popeyejones
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cymatica":2a3dqco5 said:I can't pretend to know if the refs hate Seattle or it's just, as some say, a result of their own perceptions.
I think a big part of what leads the perception is that the Seahawks get penalized a ton for all the reasons outlined above, which don't have anything to do with refs.
Even in his Field Gulls post the author acknowledges that a huge part of the turnover disparity for the Hawks is that they get called for offensive false starts way more than anyone else. That's not because of biased officiating, it because they have a bad offensive line on what is overall a very undisciplined team both on and off the field, which comes from the top-down as everyone already knows.
cymatica":2a3dqco5 said:But I do know our head coach has indicated this is a problem.
So what? Kyle Shannahan has made the same claim about the 9ers this year. Chip Kelly did too last year. Harbaugh did all the time also, and Tomsula would have done it too if he had been able to string an eight word sentence together.
Every coach complains about officiating hurting his team.
cymatica":2a3dqco5 said:Our own players notice.
And players from every team every year complain in the media about officiating hurting them. So what?
cymatica":2a3dqco5 said:Then on top of that, we have data and charts that show their was a really bad bias for chunks in a season(they probably let up when attention is brought to them).
And data and charts that show the opposite, which you're ignoring, and all the rules of random variation in small sample sizes which you're pretending don't exist so as to hold onto a claim of "really bad bias."
To be clear, I'm more than happy to acknowledge the possibility that there's an NFL-level conspiracy against the Seahawks, it's just that it's a really far-fetched claim, and all the evidence for it doesn't hold up to much of any scrutiny.
cymatica":2a3dqco5 said:Then when I watch games now I look to see if the calls at least go both ways. Sometimes they do but most of the time Seattle is forced to play much cleaner.
This is a great example of cognitive bias. The name of the cognitive bias you're talking about is "confirmation bias." You have a belief, so you set out to examine if your belief is true, and lo and behold, overall you find confirmation in your belief. That doesn't make you bad or abnormal, it makes you just like everyone else, myself included.