Seahawks draft PFF nonsense

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PFF gave the Seahawks a C-
I prefer to wait a couple of years and actually see what these guys bring to the table before I evaluate,
 

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I love it, bulletin board material for Pete. I think we have all learned that early "A" draft grades are often just hype and geeks fluffying themselves up.
 

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That is average. That is a pretty damn good grade.
 

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PFF's niche is grading based on tape. In a world where they do their job perfectly, their grades could be interesting as measures of how much each class leans towards immediate production over future potential.

A lot of our guys (everybody but Brooks and Lewis) were drafted mainly based on development so a C- doesn't seem out of place as a grade of college production.
 
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AgentDib":d98bnonr said:
PFF's niche is grading based on tape. In a world where they do their job perfectly, their grades could be interesting as measures of how much each class leans towards immediate production over future potential.

A lot of our guys (everybody but Brooks and Lewis) were drafted mainly based on development so a C- doesn't seem out of place as a grade of college production.

PFF's system is nearly useless in this case. Consider no one PFF included saw Joe Burrow as a top five pick in the 2019 draft. Then LSU brings in Joe Brady to work with him and the offense well you know the rest. Different coach adjustments to the offense. The player has to have the right coaching and play in the right scheme. That is much of what the Hawks draft for. PFF grades cannot take those factors into account.
 

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If it was that easy, anyone could do the job of acquiring talent for an NFL team.

So these people in their infinite wisdom assign a letter grade of C- the day after ?

GTFO
 

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They gave the 2012 draft class an F, we all know what happened the year after.
 

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Pete and John release themselves based on PFF grade.
 

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tersal":2z42zptp said:
PFF gave the Seahawks a C-
I prefer to wait a couple of years and actually see what these guys bring to the table before I evaluate,

Sure you'd prefer to wait a couple of years, but that doesn't sell magazines today (er, get clicks).
 

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We all judge players leading up to the draft, we all judge player upon drafting. we all say they did good or they did really good.

Sports journalists give their opinions. 'They don't know, wait years, they're idiots.'
 

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To PFF I say, Whatever? Who gives a fiddly fork.

How could anyone fairly judge or grade a draft without seeing the respective players play with their new teams? This is patent nonsense. Of course it's decided upon their pre-draft player grades, and naturally they are gospel :roll:
 

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PFF loves Brooks. he is a really good player love this pick


Pff gives a C-, Screw PFF. What do they know?
 

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TreeRon":2dhccglr said:
Pete and John release themselves based on PFF grade.

...and upon their release, despite their poor draft grade for 2020, multiple NFL teams put in waiver claims for both Pete and John, and start rehearsing their "clean out your office" speech for their current HC and GM.
 

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These are the same group of fools (National sportswriters, bloggers, and talking heads) that give the Cowboys an “A” EVERY YEAR for their drafts when they only make the playoffs every other year in the 2nd worst division in football.

Let that sink in for a minute.

If every draft the Cowboys have is an “A”, shouldn’t they be making the playoffs every year? ........like Seattle does, who grades out as C to F’s according to these goobers. Their grades don’t add up.
 

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Cyrus12":1a5kr9wy said:
Root world gave them an F.
Their goes any credibility they had. Looks like they are going down the Bleacher Report, Pete Pissquick rabbit hole and expecting different results. Sad.
 
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I don't mind the grade but I couldn't stand the PFF analyst who kept saying "The 49ers and Rams win because of the Seahawks draft"...like it's some formality, and the draft is inexcusable. There may be some reaches or odd picks but so what? There'll be players drafted in the 6th or 7th rounds this year who go onto the Pro Bowl or HOF, even, so it's not a formality. Imagine if the Seahawks had picked up Doug Baldwin in the 3rd round, that would still have been a steal yet imagine the response by the 'experts' if that had been the pick? They wouldn't merely be saying "You could have signed him as an UDFA", they'd be saying "he's not good enough, it's a bad pick".

Doug Baldwin is why you can only go so far with these assessments on tape though, because that removes the intangibles. On paper, Malik McDowell was a 2nd round pick and Doug Baldwin was an UDFA and maybe their talent warranted them picks, but the difference in mentality is something that will never be accounted for and it's why so many first or second round picks will fade into obscurity, whereas those with a hard working, tough mentality strive to be the best and can maximise every ounce of their talent.

It's just not that easy to pick who will become a star, which is why nobody ever has a good success rate. PFF won't either. They thought Josh Jones would go early in the first round yet he went 72nd, so who is right? All those GMs, scouts or coaches or the experts outside the game?
 

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