Scott Servais fired

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Scott Servais learned of his firing this morning from a breaking news alert on social media, a couple hours before he was scheduled to meet with Jerry Dipoto.

What a shambles.

Servais deserved better than that, especially given hes only 1 of 2 coaches to make a play off...

Also makes me think this was ownership rather than Dipoto

Yeah, Servais was not the first guy who should have been kicked to the curb, if this is true.

 

[hawkfan68]

I think he's done good for the most part .. Stanton will not let him sign big $$$
I like his drafting and most trades.

While Stanton may or may not let him sign $$$, DiPoto has made some horrid moves. No reason to trade Sewald last year for pretty much nothing. They could have kept Hernandez or signed Profar instead of bringing Haniger back. Signing AJ Pollack? Please. M's hitting has never been good under DiPoto's watch and now the bullpen is imploding as well because of his moves. Bullpen at one time was a strength and now he's even starting to deplete that. Regarding good drafting, which draft pick of DiPoto's is in the majors hitting over .250 currently for the M's? Dipoto is awful.

 

[IndyHawk]

While Stanton may or may not let him sign $$$, DiPoto has made some horrid moves. No reason to trade Sewald last year for pretty much nothing. They could have kept Hernandez or signed Profar instead of brining Haniger back. Signing AJ Pollack? Please. M's hitting has never been good under DiPoto's watch and now the bullpen is imploding as well because of his moves. Bullpen at one time was a strength and now he's even starting to deplete that. Regarding good drafting, which draft pick of DiPoto's is in the majors hitting over .250 currently for the M's? Dipoto is awful.

JROD for one.
The guys for Sewald trade are playing right?
Tesco did not like it here and didn't exactly light it up while here.

 

[Chapow]

JROD for one.
The guys for Sewald trade are playing right?
Tesco did like it here and didn't exactly light it up while here.

Sure looks like that Sewald trade was the catalyst for the demise of the bullpen. That pen was elite last year until they traded Sewald, then they pretty much collapsed and were quite bad by the time September rolled around. That's what happens when you destroy their chemistry by getting rid of your most important high leverage reliever, your closer. It was a terrible move that has very predictably worked out very, very poorly for the M's and was definitely a factor in missing out on the playoffs last season.

And yeah, Rojas and Canzone are playing, but they sure aren't playing very well and are only playing because we don't have better options. Why don't we have better options? Because of Dipoto, that's why.

 

[IndyHawk]

Sure looks like that Sewald trade was the catalyst for the demise of the bullpen. That pen was elite last year until they traded Sewald, then they pretty much collapsed and were quite bad by the time September rolled around. That's what happens when you destroy their chemistry by getting rid of your most important high leverage reliever, your closer. It was a terrible move that has very predictably worked out very, very poorly for the M's and was definitely a factor in missing out on the playoffs last season.

And yeah, Rojas and Canzone are playing, but they sure aren't playing very well and are only playing because we don't have better options. Why don't we have better options? Because of Dipoto, that's why.

I liked Sewald and Graveman (The one he replaced)
Canzone shows a lot of promise and Rojas plays great D,hits better than most
on the team right?
I'm not saying your totally wrong but blaming Dipoto for all is easy.
They were 10 games up in first and 13 over .500 right? Did you feel the same
about Dipoto then?
It's the players, coaches and manager not doing their jobs to keep that up.
I'm not saying Dipoto is great but he's good while being handcuffed $ by Stanton.

 

[Chapow]

I've been watching a fair amount of MLB Network, ESPN, and Fox Sports over the past 24 hours and I'm hearing terms like "scapegoat" and "set up to fail" a whole lot regarding the firing of Servais. Sure seems like a lot of people in sports media are questioning whether the right guy was fired or not.

 

[therealjohncarlson]

I've been watching a fair amount of MLB Network, ESPN, and Fox Sports over the past 24 hours and I'm hearing terms like "scapegoat" and "set up to fail" a whole lot regarding the firing of Servais. Sure seems like a lot of people in sports media are questioning whether the right guy was fired or not.

How do you fire Stanton? Asking for a friend.. he's the only one who should be fired and it would actually make an impact.

 

[GeekHawk]

" Hitting better than most" on this team about as faint as praise can get. That's like being the tallest midget.

 

[Chapow]

I liked Sewald and Graveman (The one he replaced)
Canzone shows a lot of promise and Rojas plays great D,hits better than most
on the team right?

No. He doesn't. Rojas got off to a very hot start, but has been awful for months now, and can't hit left handed pitching at all. I do agree that he plays very good D at 3rd, but his offense is so bad at this point that he shouldn't be anywhere near a MLB lineup. As far as Canzone is concerned, I'm not seeing a lot of promise. He's approaching 350 AB's at the major league level and has a 0 WAR, meaning he's been exactly a replacement level player. I'm seeing a guy that looks like a .200 hitter with a bit of pop in his bat every once in a while.

I'm not saying your totally wrong but blaming Dipoto for all is easy.
They were 10 games up in first and 13 over .500 right? Did you feel the same
about Dipoto then?

Yes. I was very critical of the Sewald trade when it happened (and ever since), and I've been extremely critical of what Dipoto did this past off season since before the season started, and I've been very consistent in that this whole season. All of my posts are there for anyone to see if you don't believe me.

It's the players, coaches and manager not doing their jobs to keep that up.
I'm not saying Dipoto is great but he's good while being handcuffed $ by Stanton.

Our offense has been one of the worst in baseball this entire season. That is a direct result of the team that Dipoto built in the off season. Dipoto is the architect of arguably the worst offense in MLB this season.

Here's a thread I posted April 3rd.
https://www.seahawks.net/threads/ms-offense-is-once-again-heinously-bad.196042/

 

[Chapow]

" Hitting better than most" on this team about as faint as praise can get. That's like being the tallest midget.

And also, he isn't hitting better than most. He's been one of the worst hitters on this team for months now.

 

[hawkfan68]

JROD for one.
The guys for Sewald trade are playing right?
Tesco did not like it here and didn't exactly light it up while here.

It's a technicality but I'm not sure Julio was drafted. He was signed by the M's but I don't believe he was ever drafted.

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Besides Julio, who else (hitting above .250)? 1 player in 8 years as GM of the M's is not a very good record.

 

[Chapow]

Yeah, Servais was not the first guy who should have been kicked to the curb, if this is true.

Dipoto himself has confirmed that it's true.

https://www.mlb.com/news/scott-serv...is had,where Dipoto informed Servais directly.

"News of Servais’ dismissal broke Thursday morning via a report from The Athletic and wasn’t confirmed by MLB.com until hours later. Dipoto revealed that Servais had learned of his dismissal via a news alert, before their scheduled meeting where Dipoto informed Servais directly.

"It was always going to be very difficult, but that made it even more difficult,” said Dipoto, who hired Servais shortly after he was brought on, in October 2015."

 

[Chapow]

https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/sport...-was-fired-by-mariners-in-worst-way-possible/

SEATTLE — With growing speculation that a managerial change could take place, Scott Servais learned he would no longer be in charge of the Seattle Mariners from a news alert flashed across a television screen — not from his bosses.

It was clumsy misstep by the Mariners on Thursday. Just another error during a two-month span in which the club collapsed, falling from seemingly being on its way to a division title to sitting on the fringes of playoff contention in the American League.

“In what has been one of my least favorite days in my professional life, the worst part of it was the fact that Scott and (hitting coach Jarret DeHart) found out about this over the crawl of a news channel,” Mariners executive vice president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto said. “That, it crushes me and I know it hurts them a great deal.”

Direct quote from Dipoto.

 

[IndyHawk]

It's a technicality but I'm not sure Julio was drafted. He was signed by the M's but I don't believe he was ever drafted.

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Besides Julio, who else (hitting above .250)? 1 player in 8 years as GM of the M's is not a very good record.

There is lots of talent that was drafted in the minors right now and the pitching that was drafted is here now.
Your right JRod was an IFA signing but so was Lazaro Montes and Celestin but it's under
Dipoto's watch right?
It takes years to fix the previous one's before Dipoto that completely depleted the minors.
So yes I'm siding with Dipoto for now because I remember a lot of befores.

 

[Chapow]

There is lots of talent that was drafted in the minors right now and the pitching that was drafted is here now.
Your right JRod was an IFA signing but so was Lazaro Montes and Celestin but it's under
Dipoto's watch right?
It takes years to fix the previous one's before Dipoto that completely depleted the minors.
So yes I'm siding with Dipoto for now because I remember a lot of befores.

Dipoto was hired as GM for the Mariners December 28th 2015. He's been here for almost 9 years.

 

[GeekHawk]

There is lots of talent that was drafted in the minors right now and the pitching that was drafted is here now.
Your right JRod was an IFA signing but so was Lazaro Montes and Celestin but it's under
Dipoto's watch right?
It takes years to fix the previous one's before Dipoto that completely depleted the minors.
So yes I'm siding with Dipoto for now because I remember a lot of befores.

Dipoto was hired 9 years ago. I seem to remember a 5-year plan (including a tear-down and rebuild) that was supposed to un-deplete the minors and start the Mariners on their way to long-lasting success ala the Astros. 5 years was up 4 years ago. And for everyone saying "We WeRe Up bY 10 GaMeS!" let me remind you that even then we were worse than all the wild-card contenders. Swimming in a cesspool is not anything to brag about.

 

[IndyHawk]

No. He doesn't. Rojas got off to a very hot start, but has been awful for months now, and can't hit left handed pitching at all. I do agree that he plays very good D at 3rd, but his offense is so bad at this point that he shouldn't be anywhere near a MLB lineup. As far as Canzone is concerned, I'm not seeing a lot of promise. He's approaching 350 AB's at the major league level and has a 0 WAR, meaning he's been exactly a replacement level player. I'm seeing a guy that looks like a .200 hitter with a bit of pop in his bat every once in a while.



Yes. I was very critical of the Sewald trade when it happened (and ever since), and I've been extremely critical of what Dipoto did this past off season since before the season started, and I've been very consistent in that this whole season. All of my posts are there for anyone to see if you don't believe me.



Our offense has been one of the worst in baseball this entire season. That is a direct result of the team that Dipoto built in the off season. Dipoto is the architect of arguably the worst offense in MLB this season.

Here's a thread I posted April 3rd.
https://www.seahawks.net/threads/ms-offense-is-once-again-heinously-bad.196042/

Until the offensive talent arrives from Everett and above it's not going to get
a whole lot better offensively.
Why? Because of Stanton - That is plain and simple..The pitching is here and the
BP will recover, the talent is there now.
All we are bitching about is offense and Dipito is not trading off prized pitching and
prospects to get it.
I agree with that (sorry) It hurts for now sure .. But when the owner does not want
high $$ on FAs and if you don't hit on lower cost ones.. It sucks sure (I hate it) but it
is what it is till the guys arrive from below, it's how we got pitching and it's how we
will get offense.
I do like Luke/Cabby trade btw, Randy one as well and the Robles pickup.
I'm willing to wait a couple more years of Dipoto.. I've seen a lot worse than him.

 

[IndyHawk]

Dipoto was hired 9 years ago. I seem to remember a 5-year plan (including a tear-down and rebuild) that was supposed to un-deplete the minors and start the Mariners on their way to long-lasting success ala the Astros. 5 years was up 4 years ago. And for everyone saying "We WeRe Up bY 10 GaMeS!" let me remind you that even then we were worse than all the wild-card contenders. Swimming in a cesspool is not anything to brag about.

You were not undoing all that damage in 5 years, I even knew that lol.
UNLESS the owner allowed you to sign high $$$ FAs to fill in the holes
until talent arrived.
the owner has not and I don't think Dipoto knew that was going to be the
case when he stated that plan..
It delays it by more years for sure but it's going to happen and it sucks to wait.

 

[IndyHawk]

Dipoto was hired as GM for the Mariners December 28th 2015. He's been here for almost 9 years.

As I said years and thats with no big $$$ FA signings that the owner forbids.

 

[GeekHawk]

Dipoto also spent all last offseason telling us he wasn't dumping salary, he was improving the strikeout rate. Gaslighting us in the beginning, gaslighting us last offseason, gaslighting us once again. How many times do you let someone pee on your head and tell you it's raining before you stop believing them?