Russell Wilson Spin Move Learned

[FreshlySnipes]

We all know Russell Wilson has a dirty spin move when under pressure but it is the same spin move every time. It worked to perfection last year because nobody really knew his tendencies as a rookie. I think its just a matter of time before players realize that he will spin the same direction when they are chasing him and get the sack. Donte Whittner commented this week that they understand Wilson after watching game film and have figured it out. Obviously thats a bunch of crap for the most part but teams have to know the spin move by now right?

 

[Hawks46]

He spins different ways. He doesn't always spin the same way. Wilson also takes into account which side of the field is heavy with receivers and usually goes that way, but he also shakes things up, and will spin to the weak side where there is usually only a TE or back. This way, he can either draw the coverage up and hit his man, or run with less defenders to that side. It's not consistent at all.

The only thing he's consistent at (and it drives me crazy) is that he will spin/fade backwards. When he gets it in his head to do this, he'll keep doing it, and do it multiple times in one play. I'd prefer to see him spin outside of the tackle box so he can either throw it away or run with it if nothing is open.

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

Impossible, his spin move rating is 99.

Seariously though, that's like saying 'We have figured out how AD runs'. You know it's coming, can't be stopped. Just when you think you have him, bam, touchdown.

 

[ClumsyLurk]

I would think. He should bait them with an earlier spin to give them that feeling then double spin back (and maybe another quick one to really break the defenses ankles) like frantic Fran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXyI4CNYDA

 

[EastCoastHawksFan]

funniest thing I read in a while.

So when the Defensive player has a free shot at Wilson he is instead going to aim 3 yards behind him so Wilson spins into him? Wouldn't Wilson just then run Forward?

Seems like one of those things you cant stop as much as you try , unless you have multiple players trying to hit him of course.

 

[hidn]

funniest thing I read in a while.

So when the Defensive player has a free shot at Wilson he is instead going to aim 3 yards behind him so Wilson spins into him? Wouldn't Wilson just then run Forward?

Seems like one of those things you cant stop as much as you try , unless you have multiple players trying to hit him of course.

Not exactly, IIRC the technique is called inside out pressure. Meaning, you take an angle of pursuit that you can adjust to still make the tackle in the event he breaks one way or the other.

In this particular case, the goal is to make it so his only option is to spin away while the defender is playing the spin. It's tough to do, but you see guys like ET and Browner do it all the time in the open field.

 

[FreshlySnipes]

all valid points. I think his use of the backwards spin is unprecedented at the QB position in the NFL but I only see him spin clockwise right to his backside. I don't remember seeing him spin counter-clockwise to his left. I think if he keeps spinning the same way whenever a defensive player is chasing him, teams will go into the game knowing that and be able to sack him.

I always hear how much Wilson looks like Fran T but never saw him play till I watched that video ^... and wow they weren't kidding. they could be related lol

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Woudn't he just step forward to escape the ridiculously aggressive outside rush and pass to the open man like Brady or Peyton? Or just do a Kaepernick?

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

all valid points. I think his use of the backwards spin is unprecedented at the QB position in the NFL but I only see him spin clockwise right to his backside. I don't remember seeing him spin counter-clockwise to his left. I think if he keeps spinning the same way whenever a defensive player is chasing him, teams will go into the game knowing that and be able to sack him.

I always hear how much Wilson looks like Fran T but never saw him play till I watched that video ^... and wow they weren't kidding. they could be related lol

Well I did watch Fran live, and no you can't account for the "spin" given IF you try it gives him even more options.

If it helps just think of Wilson as being a better Rothleisburger or a massively better Tarkington. He's a playground player. He's more dangerous as the actual play breaks down and everything goes to pure ability and instinct.

Personally I hope he progresses on the mental side like Peyton fairly soon. Better yet, would be Sweezy and Carpenter being good at passpro.

 

[FreshlySnipes]

all valid points. I think his use of the backwards spin is unprecedented at the QB position in the NFL but I only see him spin clockwise right to his backside. I don't remember seeing him spin counter-clockwise to his left. I think if he keeps spinning the same way whenever a defensive player is chasing him, teams will go into the game knowing that and be able to sack him.

I always hear how much Wilson looks like Fran T but never saw him play till I watched that video ^... and wow they weren't kidding. they could be related lol

Well I did watch Fran live, and no you can't account for the "spin" given IF you try it gives him even more options.

If it helps just think of Wilson as being a better Rothleisburger or a massively better Tarkington. He's a playground player. He's more dangerous as the actual play breaks down and everything goes to pure ability and instinct.

Personally I hope he progresses on the mental side like Peyton fairly soon. Better yet, would be Sweezy and Carpenter being good at passpro.

1. please dont ever compare Russell Wilson to Big Ben... #seahawks won superbowl XL :141847_bnono:
2. Russell's mental game is on the level of Peyton's already. AKA he knows he can/ will win every game
3. Agree w/ your analysis of the o-lines inability to figure out the pass rush... after 3 years of being together I hoped they would be greater than they are playing.

 

[drcool]

Dwight Freeney has had the same spin move for years. Has any O-oline figured him out? This isn't a move you can "figure out". You can be aware of it and be much more conservative with your pass rush and play the keep him contained in the pocket game but then you are sacrificing defense in other areas. This is just one of the tools that makes him a dangerous QB.

 

[lobohawk]

Saw a little of this in the Panthers' game, as he would spin to get outside, but the containment would force him back in between the tackles.

 

[brimsalabim]

The thing about Russ is that he isn't a trick pony he is a chess player. When teams adjust to his "moves" he will have them right where he wants them. A lot of his "running around " to supposedly "buy time" is also Russ attempting to manipulate the coverage to get the match up he wanted to begin with. It's not always a random scamper.

 

[BillHawks]

***PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT COMPARING RUSSELL WILSON TO TEBOW***

Tim Tebow used to use the same move all the time. He got noticeably worse once defenders figured it out. I can remember a couple times where he actually spun right into a sack, and another where he heard footsteps that weren't there and spun for no reason. Wilson is obviously superior to Tebow in nearly every way but he's probably going to need to make some adjustments as far as escaping pressure goes.

 

[Tical21]

I've been saying for months that this exact scenario was going to be an emphasis for opposing defenses this season, and I got nothin' but crickets. Teams are already adjusting. Matthews was waiting for him when he tried to go backwards, and it seemingly threw Wilson off the rest his night after a hot start. Carolina really tried to resist him leaking out backwards as well. Most of that guys that rush the passer from the outside are good enough athletes that if they stay disciplined and attack to his back shoulder, rather than the middle of him, they'll be able to adjust from there when he tries to spin out. Teams are going to take it away, or at least try to. Since it is going backwards, it is going to result in some huge losses along the way. But Russell is a smart kid. He'll learn it is much more efficient to step up when you get outside pressure than it is to give 'em the okey doke and go around. When you step up, the ball doesn't have to travel as far to a receiver, and you can get more rushing yards more quickly as well. It is all a part of the process. Teams have film on him now, and have adjusted, now it is his turn to answer.

 

[Tical21]

I've been saying this for months, and crickets! Teams are already adjusting. Matthews was waiting for him when he tried to go backwards, and it seemingly threw Wilson off the rest his night after a hot start. Carolina really tried to resist him leaking out backwards as well. Most of that guys that rush the passer from the outside are good enough athletes that if they stay disciplined and attack to his back shoulder, rather than the middle of him, they'll be able to adjust from there when he tries to spin out. Teams are going to take it away, or at least try to. Since it is going backwards, it is going to result in some huge losses along the way. But Russell is a smart kid. He'll learn it is much more efficient to step up when you get outside pressure than it is to give 'em the okey doke and go around. When you step up, the ball doesn't have to travel as far to as receiver, and you can get more rushing yards more quickly. It is all a part of the process. Teams have film on him now, and have adjusted, now it is his turn to answer.

 

[TheHawkster]

***PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT COMPARING RUSSELL WILSON TO TEBOW***

Tim Tebow used to use the same move all the time. He got noticeably worse once defenders figured it out. I can remember a couple times where he actually spun right into a sack, and another where he heard footsteps that weren't there and spun for no reason. Wilson is obviously superior to Tebow in nearly every way but he's probably going to need to make some adjustments as far as escaping pressure goes.

Russell Wilson is everything everyone wanted Tebow to be.

 

[scutterhawk]

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I've been saying for months that this exact scenario was going to be an emphasis for opposing defenses this season, and I got nothin' but crickets. Teams are already adjusting. Matthews was waiting for him when he tried to go backwards, and it seemingly threw Wilson off the rest his night after a hot start. Carolina really tried to resist him leaking out backwards as well. Most of that guys that rush the passer from the outside are good enough athletes that if they stay disciplined and attack to his back shoulder, rather than the middle of him, they'll be able to adjust from there when he tries to spin out. Teams are going to take it away, or at least try to. Since it is going backwards, it is going to result in some huge losses along the way. But Russell is a smart kid. He'll learn it is much more efficient to step up when you get outside pressure than it is to give 'em the okey doke and go around. When you step up, the ball doesn't have to travel as far to a receiver, and you can get more rushing yards more quickly as well. It is all a part of the process. Teams have film on him now, and have adjusted, now it is his turn to answer.

BS, as has already been mentioned, -> PASS PROTECTION <- by the two guards needs to be fixed. (eh Cable?)
IF the pass protection keeps breaking down on a regular basis, Wilson doesn't have any other options than to try'n spin away.
The 49rs O-Line gives Krapper a hell of a lot better protection, and I see that as a Coaching problem for Seattle.
Wilson has been using his moxy and athleticism to keep plays alive when shit breaks down in under three seconds, because there's no excuse for RW NOT to have an extra second or two to make a play.
And even when the Defenses "ADJUST", Wilson still figures out a way to beat them.

 

[John_Redcorn]

. Teams have film on him now, and have adjusted, now it is his turn to answer.

Fans in the official 49ers MB have been predicting (hoping) this all offseason... Im not sure it's happened yet. Only 1 game in against an impressive front 7 so far this year to judge. Like others have added, Russel is smart and will learn to shake bad habbits in his game - he just needs to quit doin all this magazine shoots and do more self-evaluating on film.... Just kidding.

 

[formido]

Carolina may be the best front 7 we play all season, on the road, and Wilson is 4th in the NFL in passer rating.