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Well Sherman has now officially been a starter for two full seasons. In his 32 games started he has 16 interceptions and 49 passes defensed (per ESPN's stats). That is just astounding. We need to pay this guy whatever it takes.
 

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We can't pay everyone... that is going to be the difficulty with this team very soon. Wilson, Thomas and Sherman all deserve a good payday. Hopefully these guys give us a discount to keep this team together.
 

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EverydayImRusselin":99n7s6fr said:
We need to pay this guy whatever it takes.

At the expense of being able to assemble a Championship winning squad?

When it comes to the likes of Thomas, Sherman and Wilson reupping then I hope we do them right but not end up with things like Flacco at the Ravens.
 
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UK_Seahawk":2yz4l2kv said:
EverydayImRusselin":2yz4l2kv said:
We need to pay this guy whatever it takes.

At the expense of being able to assemble a Championship winning squad?

When it comes to the likes of Thomas, Sherman and Wilson reupping then I hope we do them right but not end up with things like Flacco at the Ravens.

Obviously I was exagerating a little bit. If someone offers him $20m, we shouldn't match that. But if he's offered anything under what Revis got, we should match it. I expect he will command less than Revis since that wasn't guaranteed at all.
 

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Some big paydays are coming in the near future. I am not sure about discounts though. The life of an Nfl'er can be short so guys have to cash in. I do hope we can sign them all but I am sure we will see someone go that we wanted to keep.
 

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Finding creative ways to re-sign our quality players is a good problem to have, but it's not one we have to worry about right now. Fix the damn OLINE first...
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I don’t think they will have a problem signing Sherman, ET and Wilson. Rice and Miller will be let go in the offseason which will free up nearly $20 million in cap space. I would expect Sherman to get extension this year and ET to be signed or tagged the year after with Wilson also getting an extension. ET could get an extension next year as well but I don’t expect him to get the raise until 2015 as he is already getting paid and that $2-$3 mill extra could be used elsewhere like signing Avril and Tate.

The bigger struggle will be finding cheap replacements for Rice and Miller along with other players we will lose in free agency (e.g. linebackers) in the next few years. PCJS have proven capable of finding cheap talent so I’m not too worried. However, they have missed (e.g. offensive line) and that can impact the team for years. Really it already has. Carpenter and Moffitt were pretty big misses and combined with Okung's injury history we are suddenly in a spot where we have yet another absolute need to focus on instead of just looking for best player available.
 

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Rice and Miller together will pay for roughly one of the three. Thomas will get less because he's a safety, but the three together will earn somewhere in the neighborhood of 45-50 million per year. For a team that is already at the cap, I just don't see it. You've also got Okung, and Percy is going to have a big number. I don't know that you can even keep 2 of them, let alone all three. Not going to worry about it now though. We have a SuperBowl to win.
 

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Tical21":31k7svb4 said:
Rice and Miller together will pay for roughly one of the three. Thomas will get less because he's a safety, but the three together will earn somewhere in the neighborhood of 45-50 million per year. For a team that is already at the cap, I just don't see it. You've also got Okung, and Percy is going to have a big number. I don't know that you can even keep 2 of them, let alone all three. Not going to worry about it now though. We have a SuperBowl to win.

I thought we already signed Percy to a 6 year deal?

I am positive we will hang on to those 3 guys, I feel like we are blessed to have RW as the QB because he cares more about winning than the $$$. Of course he will want much better pay (and deserves it) but I don't see a Flacco situation.

I am still a little skeptical about giving Okung a huge contract. He is one of the best LT's in the game when healthy but he has been injury prone so he could be a money pit.

That is why it is important to win the Super Bowl this year, our talent will never be as good as it is right now with all the people we have to pay. We will lose some for sure, I think Browner and Golden will probably be asking for a little more than we can afford.
 

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There will be some tough decisions to be made this offseason. Lots of studs who are still on their cheap rookie contracts. If we want Sherman and Thomas (even Okung) to stick we will have to let some other guys go for sure. Rice and Miller both have very large contracts. So does Red Bryant. We won't be able to keep everyone. Good news is that we have all our draft picks and some potential replacements on IR.
 

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I don't think we will let Sherm or RW or ET go. We have to figure out how to keep all three of them. They are irreplaceable.

But if we can only keep two - I say its Russell and Sherm.
 

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5280Hawk":1ss6qx55 said:
I don't think we will let Sherm or RW or ET go. We have to figure out how to keep all three of them. They are irreplaceable.

But if we can only keep two - I say its Russell and Sherm.

Russell isn't going anywhere. So it would be between Sherm and ET. My pick is ET with no hesitation, he has been the MVP of the defense this year. Losing Sherman would blow but if it had to come down to it I would keep Earl.
 

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I try not think about salaries, pay days, salary caps and other futuristic accounting headaches.

Be in the moment. Win a Super Bowl. If that doesn't happen, it won't matter nearly as much who stays or goes. And, frankly, if we DO win a Super Bowl? It won't matter to me at all. That is the nature of the business. Thank you for being part of the greatest sports memory of my life and the greatest team in Seahawks history. Good luck and farewell.
 

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There's a reason why legit cover corners are paid a lot more than the best safeties in the game. They're rare. Only a handful of them in the league. I also think Sherm has proven that he doesn't need safety help to play lights out defense. Earl is making a lot of people think twice about the value of the safety position, but an elite cornerback isn't something you can replace easily (though PC's elite DB coaching impacts this equation). Safeties are generally easier to plug and play as long as you invest high draft capital in them.

I think it's essential that Seattle keeps all three (Wilson, Sherman, Thomas), and I think they'll find a way. The cap is due to move up very shortly as well.
 

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Personally I feel holding onto ET would be better than Sherman mainly because the top FS will make less than the top CB.
 

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If they keep Wilson, Sherman and Thomas, they're basically not going to be able to re-sign ANYBODY at ANY position for the next 5-7 years. Which is fine. You're not going to sign pass-rushers, DT's, LB's, RB's, WR's, etc. You're going to have to keep filling those through the draft, over and over and over again. Which again, is fine, it just puts a lot of pressure. Keeping Richard Sherman, for example, means there are three Browner/Wagner/Unger types you're not going to be able to keep. I'm not necessarily against that, but you just need to be darn sure they are the right guys and you can win championships with them and a bunch of young guys around them.
 

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It's tough. You can see what Flacco just earned, and it's common in the league. If we don't pay Wilson, someone else will, but the problem is that we can see what it just did to the Ravens. They had to gut that team just to pay Flacco.

It's the great irony of the NFL. It's very tough to win without a franchise QB, but it is also tough to pay a QB $20 mil/year and keep a team together.
 

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Our situation is very unique in that Russell and Sherman are two of the lowest paid players in the league, and they're going to switch to two of the higher paid players. 30 million per year at minimum in a pay increase. That money has to come from somewhere. Luckily Red, Miller and Rice will help cover a lot of that, but you still haven't signed Golden, Baldwin, Thomas, Browner, Bennett, etc. BFS is right, lets curb this until the offseason and win a championship first, then we can cut 'em all and start over for all I care.
 

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Okung and Earl Thomas already make a lot of money since they were drafted under the old CBA. So their raises wont be as large as Sherman or Wilson.

Cut the following:
Browner
Miller
Rice
Bryant
Maybe Clemons too as he is getting old and we'll want to have Bennett and Avril.


Hope that you can get a bit of a discount on Okung cause of his injury proneness.

Lynch might have to be cut after next year too. He is getting close to 30 years old and we have invested draft picks in Turbin and Michael. I love Lynch but I rather keep ET, Sherman, Okung and Wilson because RBs are easier to find.
 

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Russell will not be paid 20 million a year...I have a feeling that when he resigns in a couple of years it will be in the 12-15 neighborhood...

Teams will realize pretty soon (Flacco, Romo, Ryan) that they are completely F'd with the building of the rest of their team if they pay all that money to a guy who isn't the top 1 or 2 at their position.

No offense to Russell...but he isn't and I love what he has done so far....
 

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