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We've won a Superbowl and fixed our season to be in line for another by relying on the run. We don't need another prolific high dollar wr
sturg78":3bh9gw8q said:We've won a Superbowl and fixed our season to be in line for another by relying on the run. We don't need another prolific high dollar wr
volsunghawk":2x0olxzk said:My only concern with Marshall or any FA WR is that due to the nature of our offense, where the WR numbers aren't going to be big, and they'll be asked to block more than in some other locations, is that it might be hard to keep them happy - especially if they are used to putting up bigger numbers and looking for Pro Bowl accolades and whatnot. I mean, Sidney Rice seemed to adapt well enough, but I think he might be an exception rather than the rule.
I think we might have more success with guys who are brought up/trained in our system straight from the draft or UDFA, just due to them not having that other experience with a more pass-friendly team.
But again, that's my ONLY concern. All things being equal, I've read that Marshall has put a lot of his demons behind him, and he's an amazing receiver who I believe would boost our passing game significantly.
RolandDeschain":1kqrbg2g said:Just say NO to expensive WRs until/unless we become a more pass-oriented offense.
sutz":1enjtfdx said:Don't agree with you much, but you're right on here.RolandDeschain":1enjtfdx said:Just say NO to expensive WRs until/unless we become a more pass-oriented offense.
kidhawk":37l47r2q said:sutz":37l47r2q said:Don't agree with you much, but you're right on here.RolandDeschain":37l47r2q said:Just say NO to expensive WRs until/unless we become a more pass-oriented offense.
I'm back and forth on the issue. We currently aren't a pass happy offense, but we may have to become one out of necessity. We will likely lose Lynch, if not after this season, than more than likely after next, and if we can't get more production from C-Mike and Turbo, we may find ourselves needing to pass more than we like. I think it might be wise to go ahead and pay someone on a more short term deal (2-3 years) and use our draft capital improving our O-line, and then let that receiver go when his contract is due and use that cap money elsewhere at that point. I am not sure Marshall is necessarily THAT guy, but I definitely miss having a guy like Sidney Rice as a go to in the Red Zone. Him and Tate are really the only receivers I've ever seen Wilson have the faith in to constantly just put the ball up and believe they'd come down with it.
I'd actually go the complete opposite of that. Because the rumors were the Hawks reached out to Steve Smith this past off season after he was cut by the Panthers. So even with Harvin here, they missed out on Smith and then drafted 2 WRs including one with our first pick in the draft.Sgt. Largent":2uqrg8xo said:While you're right, I don't think as long as Pete's here he will ever deviate from the physical run first style of offense............even if Lynch isn't here.
We'd either see if C-Mike/Turbin can handle the load, or we'd draft or go out and find another RB to fit the system.
I think Pete and John learned their lesson with Harvin, tying up 10M + a year in a WR that's only going to catch 50 balls a year isn't cap prudent.
Brandon Marshall isn't garbage he is one of the few veteran WR's worth taking a chance on. Just make everything incentive laden and protect yourself in the language of the contract if you're so worried about him.CHawk":24iy35xd said:Bears claiming locker room cancer. Didn't we learn anything from the Percy experiment? Let's just see how our rookie receivers pan out before taking on other teams garbage.
Hawkfan77":19v6a4th said:I'd actually go the complete opposite of that. Because the rumors were the Hawks reached out to Steve Smith this past off season after he was cut by the Panthers. So even with Harvin here, they missed out on Smith and then drafted 2 WRs including one with our first pick in the draft.Sgt. Largent":19v6a4th said:While you're right, I don't think as long as Pete's here he will ever deviate from the physical run first style of offense............even if Lynch isn't here.
We'd either see if C-Mike/Turbin can handle the load, or we'd draft or go out and find another RB to fit the system.
I think Pete and John learned their lesson with Harvin, tying up 10M + a year in a WR that's only going to catch 50 balls a year isn't cap prudent.
I don't think they pigeon hole themselves in any way. I think if they see an upgrade they will pursue it and not pigeonhole themselves out of upgrading certain positions. It's not like they'll say "well Harvin didn't work out so that means we will never go and sign a big time WR again" this FO just doesn't work that way. If they evaluate the WR position in the off season and believe it needs further upgrades, I don't think they will leave any stone unturned because they never have.
No, tying up 10M+ in a WR receiver that refuses to run routes beyond 2 yards isn't cap prudent is what you mean to say. Luckily this FO doesn't run things the way you guys prefer they take chances on players of elite talent and sometimes it works out and sometimes not but neither outcome will stop them from doing so and becoming one that NEVER takes a risk.Sgt. Largent":3tcqo66s said:kidhawk":3tcqo66s said:sutz":3tcqo66s said:Don't agree with you much, but you're right on here.RolandDeschain":3tcqo66s said:Just say NO to expensive WRs until/unless we become a more pass-oriented offense.
I'm back and forth on the issue. We currently aren't a pass happy offense, but we may have to become one out of necessity. We will likely lose Lynch, if not after this season, than more than likely after next, and if we can't get more production from C-Mike and Turbo, we may find ourselves needing to pass more than we like. I think it might be wise to go ahead and pay someone on a more short term deal (2-3 years) and use our draft capital improving our O-line, and then let that receiver go when his contract is due and use that cap money elsewhere at that point. I am not sure Marshall is necessarily THAT guy, but I definitely miss having a guy like Sidney Rice as a go to in the Red Zone. Him and Tate are really the only receivers I've ever seen Wilson have the faith in to constantly just put the ball up and believe they'd come down with it.
While you're right, I don't think as long as Pete's here he will ever deviate from the physical run first style of offense............even if Lynch isn't here.
We'd either see if C-Mike/Turbin can handle the load, or we'd draft or go out and find another RB to fit the system.
I think Pete and John learned their lesson with Harvin, tying up 10M + a year in a WR that's only going to catch 50 balls a year isn't cap prudent.
MizzouHawkGal":2c62czrz said:No, tying up 10M+ in a WR receiver that refuses to run routes beyond 2 yards isn't cap prudent is what you mean to say. Luckily this FO doesn't run things the way you guys prefer they take chances on players of elite talent and sometimes it works out and sometimes not but neither outcome will stop them from doing so and becoming one that NEVER takes a risk.
I wouldn't pay him that much purely because of age but he is totally worth the risk for 5-7M a year. Though if they insist on getting another FA WR I would try and swing something for Justin Blackmon or Josh Gordon if possible.Sgt. Largent":1d4zaz19 said:MizzouHawkGal":1d4zaz19 said:No, tying up 10M+ in a WR receiver that refuses to run routes beyond 2 yards isn't cap prudent is what you mean to say. Luckily this FO doesn't run things the way you guys prefer they take chances on players of elite talent and sometimes it works out and sometimes not but neither outcome will stop them from doing so and becoming one that NEVER takes a risk.
You think Marshall is elite talent for over 10M a year at age 30 who was injured pretty much the entire year with three years still left on his deal?
No thanks.
MizzouHawkGal":2qx0idzf said:I wouldn't pay him that much purely because of age but he is totally worth the risk for 5-7M a year. Though if they insist on getting another FA WR I would try and swing something for Justin Blackmon or Josh Gordon if possible.Sgt. Largent":2qx0idzf said:MizzouHawkGal":2qx0idzf said:No, tying up 10M+ in a WR receiver that refuses to run routes beyond 2 yards isn't cap prudent is what you mean to say. Luckily this FO doesn't run things the way you guys prefer they take chances on players of elite talent and sometimes it works out and sometimes not but neither outcome will stop them from doing so and becoming one that NEVER takes a risk.
You think Marshall is elite talent for over 10M a year at age 30 who was injured pretty much the entire year with three years still left on his deal?
No thanks.