Reed suspended 6 games....

[Scorpion05]

How hard is it to not beat women?

Not hard when your amygdala is damaged.

Football players (especially those in physical positions), and boxers are more likely to be violent/domestic abusers. Hasn't anyone noticed that, compared to say basketball or baseball players?

There's a reason for that. It's psychological, it has more to do with brain damage over time than anyone is willing to admit. Society just isn't ready to have that conversation because it's seen as an "excuse" for abuse. But it's actually just factual

IIRC, DV incidents among NFL players is significantly lower than national averages.

I personally think that’s not the greatest comparison, only because on a national level there are so many variances between communities, wealth, etc.

What we do know is that those who have been abused, or grew up in abusive households, are more likely to be abusers/violent themselves.

Take Aaron Hernandez. People tried to claim his actions were because of CTE. The problem with that logic is his actions were very premeditated.

Damage to your amygdala, and certain other parts of your brain can cause impulse control issues, suicidal thoughts, etc. So when I see a boxer or football player in the news for this, I’m not surprised

 

[xray]

I see your points for extreme outliers of personality, bit still would argue that for the vast majority of people in the vast majority of situations, the anti-inhinitory nature of alcohol doesnt alter personality but reveal it.

so drunk karaoke singers really are good singers ? :sarcasm_on:

 

[Sarlacc83]

I see your points for extreme outliers of personality, bit still would argue that for the vast majority of people in the vast majority of situations, the anti-inhinitory nature of alcohol doesnt alter personality but reveal it.

We're not talking about vast majority of situations. We're talking about partying i.e. binge-drinking. It's very easy, after 3 or 4 beers, in an excited state, to feel that you're good for 3 or 4 more because the effects of the first 3 to 4 haven't hit your system fully yet -- not realizing that your body can only metabolize about 1 drink per hour; so it means that if you have 6 beers in an hour, then another 3 in the next hour, you'll be heavily intoxicated for quite some time after while getting all the more so, and you won't realize it until its too late. For a rookie with a sudden influx of money, I surmise this is what happened alcohol-wise.

But of course, the ultimate issue here is that you've agreed with a statement about others judging this in a blanket race-related situation while making the same kind of generalized judgment error of your own in making this about Reed's inherent vile nature showing itself. If I am correct; this mistake is preventable. If you are, then Reed cannot be made any better except, apparently, through teetotalism.

 

[McGruff]

Because things must always reside in the extremes, and never in a messy and mysterious middle.

 

[Chapow]

People do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober. Period. Regardless of their "true nature" or whatever. Anyone trying to deny that is just wrong.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I will agree that it "looks" inconsistent for certain....but only to "us".

By looks you have to consider we have a fraction of the evidence that Goodell and his resources have dug up (on all the cases I'm talking about now) I will again defer to the employment of the 32 billionaires that they did not just hire a racist, idiot, throw a dart and decide commissioner even if it appears that way with my limited information.

Feel free to defer to them I absolutely refuse. The lack of suspension for Hill stinks, smells, reeks of favoritism.

I am in no way saying Reed did not deserve what he got and I'm not in any way a butt hurt Seahawks fan saying he got the shaft. What I am saying is that with all the stuff that came out publicly about Hill it is blatantly obvious he deserved a suspension as well. Even if he didn't break his son's arm, which I find unlikely, and even if he never laid a hand on his fiance once he came in the NFL, which I also find unlikely, he was heard on audio tape threatening her that alone is worth two games in my opinion. It's fishy and you'll never convince me of anything otherwise

 

[McGruff]

People do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober. Period. Regardless of their "true nature" or whatever. Anyone trying to deny that is just wrong.

Fair and noble point.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Because things must always reside in the extremes, and never in a messy and mysterious middle.

I argue you're the one making that mistake.

 

[xray]

People do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober. Period. Regardless of their "true nature" or whatever. Anyone trying to deny that is just wrong.

There are so many drug and alcohol experts in here . Makes me wonder where all the knowledge came from . Was it learned in medical classes or from AA meetings . :stirthepot:

 

[Chapow]

People do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober. Period. Regardless of their "true nature" or whatever. Anyone trying to deny that is just wrong.

Fair and noble point.

Reported for revealing private information in a public forum. Leave my nobility out of this please.

 

[McGruff]

Because things must always reside in the extremes, and never in a messy and mysterious middle.

I argue you're the one making that mistake.

Unlikely.

 

[Chapow]

People do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober. Period. Regardless of their "true nature" or whatever. Anyone trying to deny that is just wrong.

There are so many drug and alcohol experts in here . Makes me wonder where all the knowledge came from . Was it learned in medical classes or from AA meetings . :stirthepot:

You think it takes expertise to reach the conclusion that people do things while drunk or high that they wouldn't do while sober?

:lol:

 

[quadsas]

Imagine being so demented that you think that drunk you is the real you. What a stupid thing to say. Those people probably think if you play Counter Strike or GTA you're a killer in real life.

On the other hand, this suspension is simply ridiculous. Way to show that you're willing to bend the rules for some players Goodell. It's a complete joke he was suspended and Hill wasn't.

 

[jammerhawk]

The topic fellows is the suspension of Reed not the inherent racism some think pervades the board or the revelation of true personality with the disinhibition of alcohol or whatever.

Let's try to get back on point here.

 

[McGruff]

Perhaps I am not being clear. My point is simply this.

If you act out violently when you are drunk, it likely means you have some unresolved anger issues you need to deal with.

If you unload on racist tirades when you are drunk, it likely means you have some deep seeded racial prejudices you need to confront.

If you rape a woman while you are drunk, it likely means you have respect and boundary issues that need looking into.

It doesn't mean that is the totality of your personality. It doesnt mean you are totally bad or irredeemable or that nothing can be done to address the underlying issues that alcohol abuse reveals.

It means you probably shouldnt get drunk.

And it means you probably should deal with the deep seeded stuff that surfaces when you drink.

 

[McGruff]

The topic fellows is the suspension of Reed not the inherent racism some think pervades the board or the revelation of true personality with the disinhibition of alcohol or whatever.

Let's try to get back on point here.

Sorry, Jammer.

I missed the memo.

 

[Chapow]

The topic fellows is the suspension of Reed not the inherent racism some think pervades the board or the revelation of true personality with the disinhibition of alcohol or whatever.

Let's try to get back on point here.

Dude, conversations evolve. Points are brought up that people are interested in discussing. This "stay on topic" tact is a really good way to kill off the few threads that people are interested in participating in right now, and is exactly what Pe and Peaches were talking about being a factor in this place becoming boring and stale.

I'm not trying to attack you or the board. I'm just trying to bring to your attention that this place is a lot more interesting when conversations are allowed to evolve as they may as long as no lines are being crossed.

50/50 this post gets deleted, sadly.

 

[TwilightError]

If, and it still is an if, he hit a woman, throw him out. No matter how good he is.

 

[rcaido]

If, and it still is an if, he hit a woman, throw him out. No matter how good he is.

If the woman deserves it, i dont see why not. In this case there is no proof of what happened. Didn't get charged. As for Hunt situation, the woman deserved it.

If you dont involve gender and go by on Person A & Person B did, there was nothing wrong in this situation. DV should not have even been called.

 

[jeremiah]

How hard is it to not beat women?

Did you hear that this was the case?

Conduct could be any manner of things.

Possibly reacting to this:

https://www.king5.com/article/sports/nf ... /437977570

Assault is basically anything they want it to be. Battery is physical assault.

This is total B S. Suspended for something so minor that now charges are filed. THIS is a Civil Rights claim.