Hawkpower":21c7f5ou said:
scutterhawk":21c7f5ou said:
JS was beside himself with exuberant anticipation about getting "RW" in the Draft, and Pete Carroll designating him as the starter over Flynn & Jackson in his Rookie outing, + the culminating results of all three Seasons with him at the helm, and you honestly believe that JS doesn't see his value?
This "Running Game" is most effective BECAUSE of the numbers that Russell Wilson has helped to add to it, it is NOT all Marshawn Lynch's doing.
The Seahawks Defense is the absolute best, bar none, with no arguments, but, they are not of and by themselves, the only reason for the culminated success.
A lot of the blame for the loss in Super Bowl 49, was laid on RW, but, most people seem to have amnesia when it comes to the Patriots coming back from a 10 point deficit (against the Seahawks vaunted Defense) to secure the win.
As I see it, there are too many here, that want to downplay Russell Wilson's value, to fit their end of the argument, and even going so far as trying to crystal ball what JS & Co. think of him, to hedge their beliefs on the matter.
If you look from an another angle, the defense kept the team in play for the NFC championship game. If you look at the totality of all games played over Petes tenure as a the coach, the defense was a bigger element on taking the ball over and giving it to the offense. There were so many 3 and outs and Bevell hating in the not too distant future. The defense wins championships, if the team was built in the philosophy of an high octane offense, I would readily agree with the thought process. If we don't have a stellar defense, Russel would be sitting on the sidelines instead of being on the field IMHO.
You're side-stepping one facet of the argument, in that a lot of those "3 And Outs" were because Russell Wilson has had to rely on his non-#1 Receivers to get somewhat open, hence, his nearly 900 Yards of tucking the ball in, and running for it.
Contrary to the worn out adage of "Defense Wins Championships", it would be way more accurate, and honest to say that Defenses HELP to win Championships.
It's still a fact that the Seahawks had a 10 point advantage for quite awhile in 49, but it was the Defense that couldn't hold Brady from eating up the deficit.
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of Season Wilson will have with the likes of Jimmy Graham on board.
The Offensive line has been pretty damned decent at pushing the running game up the ranks, but they pretty much suck at QB protection.
Kearse wasn't making the catches (interceptions) NFCCG, that's not all on RW, but ultimately, he managed to compete, and helped to get the win.
IF Wilson and his Agent are being unreasonable in negotiations, we will find out when all comes to light.
Until I hear the particulars, I'm not on board with putting all the blame on Wilson for the hold-ups.[/quote]
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you are clearly a HUUUUUGE Wilson fan so I won't begrudge you that.
You keep railing on our defense though, which I don't understand. Does that need to be done in order to justify some point about Wilson?? The defense is one of the best in history, and they were SO banged up at the end......and lets not forget..... had the defense not bailed Russ out of his putrid NFCCG performance there wouldn't have even been a Super Bowl to discuss....
Every QB in this league would give his left nut to play with a defense and run game like we have here. Why, as fans, are we criticizing our best asset..... our defense....... to prop up Wilson??????
BTW, while your points about the WR's has some merit, feel free to peruse the many vids posted here showing Russell missing WIDE OPEN receivers time after time after time......While I don't necessarily jump up and down regarding our WR crew, I still think there is enough reasonable doubt to wonder if the blame is all on them.....like you though, I am excited to see how he does with JG in the mix.[/quote]
Being realistic here, yes, I am a big Russell Wilson fan..... what reason would I have not to be?
"Let's not forget" the 10 + points come back by the Patriots.
Yes I have readily admitted that the Defense was playing with a lot of injuries, which shifted the load back on our Quarterback to take up the challenge of moving down the field quickly, and surprisingly, he did manage to get us within one Yard of winning that game.
Of the "Railing on the Defense"?, not so, I'm just not buying that Defenses win Championships, at least not to the tune of it don't matter who the Quarterback is, because more often than not, there have been very, very few so-so Quarterbacks that have rode in on the backs of their Defenses, (well, except maybe Trent Dilfer)
People are pissed, or getting there pretty quick, at Pre-Blaming Russell Wilson for CAP issues that haven't even happened yet, and that's just goofy.
