Ramsey Trade

[Jville]

DB events highlight Pete's & Co renewed efforts to keep as many linebackers on the field as much as possible.

The Seahawks continue to bring in cornerbacks for tryouts ........ not previously mentioned yesterday was CB Linden Stephens.

The Cincinnati Bengals just placed Darius Phillips on IR. Lots of cumulative league casualties adding up.

It still comes down to supply and demand. And, unlike Seattle, many other teams are under so much more pressure to bid up the trade offers.

It is being handled. I think we are in good hands.

 

[massari]

Let's say they have the option of trading their 2020 1st and 2nd rd pick for Ramsey.

The 2020 draft is expected to have a lot of CB and pass rushing talent in the early rounds and we all know teams need good cheap young talent to be legit contenders.

Would you rather have:

Package A
-Clowney or other FA
-1st rd pass rusher, CB or FS
-2nd rd pass rusher, CB or FS

Or

Package B
-Ramsey
-2021 3rd rd comp pick received from Clowney departure

 

[SoulfishHawk]

best...….avatar...…..ever

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Let's say they have the option of trading their 2020 1st and 2nd rd pick for Ramsey.

The 2020 draft is expected to have a lot of CB and pass rushing talent in the early rounds and we all know teams need good cheap young talent to be legit contenders.

Would you rather have:

Package A
-Clowney or other FA
-1st rd pass rusher, CB or FS
-2nd rd pass rusher, CB or FS

Or

Package B
-Ramsey
-2021 3rd rd comp pick received from Clowney departure

I'd play along with your hypothetical if I didn't know that there is a 100% chance that Schneider trades down 2-3 times to stock up on 3rd and 4th round picks that probably won't pan out.

So I choose Option 2. Ramsey is an elite CB in his prime that even if we have to give him an extension is worth it for a team that's ready to compete now.

 

[rcaido]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Ansah contract is 9 -13 million. Isn't that pretty much what we would pay for Ramsey but just a little more? Also do we resign Reed because of the incident. Seem like we have options, if we can win with Ramsey & Clowney now, then we dont Reed & Ansah.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Ansah contract is 9 -13 million. Isn't that pretty much what we would pay for Ramsey but just a little more? Also do we resign Reed because of the incident. Seem like we have options, if we can win with Ramsey & Clowney now, then we dont Reed & Ansah.

Absolutely you could fit Ramsey's 15-16M per year new extension into the cap space next year if there's no Ansah and/or Clowney......and you don't extend Reed.

But then you're still in a situation where you have a great CB, but back to trying to piecemeal together a D-line with no Reed, Ansah and/or Clowney.

And I wouldn't assume any of our young cheap DE's rise up and make it not necessary to have to go get another Ansah or Clowney next year at 10-15M yr.

 

[rcaido]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Ansah contract is 9 -13 million. Isn't that pretty much what we would pay for Ramsey but just a little more? Also do we resign Reed because of the incident. Seem like we have options, if we can win with Ramsey & Clowney now, then we dont Reed & Ansah.

Absolutely you could fit Ramsey's 15-16M per year new extension into the cap space next year if there's no Ansah and/or Clowney......and you don't extend Reed.

But then you're still in a situation where you have a great CB, but back to trying to piecemeal together a D-line with no Reed, Ansah and/or Clowney.

And I wouldn't assume any of our young cheap DE's rise up and make it not necessary to have to go get another Ansah or Clowney next year at 10-15M yr.

Im talking about keeping both Ramsey & Clowney.

Im also sure we will shop out Britt expiring 10mill contract next season or maybe now. What other player do we really need to resign besides Clowney.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Ansah contract is 9 -13 million. Isn't that pretty much what we would pay for Ramsey but just a little more? Also do we resign Reed because of the incident. Seem like we have options, if we can win with Ramsey & Clowney now, then we dont Reed & Ansah.

Absolutely you could fit Ramsey's 15-16M per year new extension into the cap space next year if there's no Ansah and/or Clowney......and you don't extend Reed.

But then you're still in a situation where you have a great CB, but back to trying to piecemeal together a D-line with no Reed, Ansah and/or Clowney.

And I wouldn't assume any of our young cheap DE's rise up and make it not necessary to have to go get another Ansah or Clowney next year at 10-15M yr.

Im talking about keeping both Ramsey & Clowney.

Im also sure we will shop out Britt expiring 10mill contract next season or maybe now. What other player do we really need to resign besides Clowney.

Well if Clowney made a big stink about demanding to be traded from Houston, AND told the Seahawks he'd only allow being traded to us if we didn't franchise him next year, those are both pretty good indicators that he wants to hit FA and get a max deal.

Which is what? 20+M a year like Frank got? No thanks. So far Clowney's been good, but he hasn't been hand him 20M+ a year good. Not even close.

 

[massari]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Without spending the time on OverTheCap calculating, it'd likely be cap hell soon enough if they were to somehow manage to fit Ramsey (around $18M APY), Clowney (around $20M) and Reed (around $15M) in all in one go.

Absolutely you could fit Ramsey's 15-16M per year new extension into the cap space next year if there's no Ansah and/or Clowney......and you don't extend Reed.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jalenramsey/status/1138476376510672898[/tweet]

 

[rcaido]

18million a year? That's a hard pass then, i thought the most expensive DB is 14million. I rather have Clowney & keep our picks.

 

[QuahHawk]

here is my guesses on future contracts
Clowney $20m APY
Ramsey $17 m APY
Reed $15m APY
Ansah $12m APY

easy to keep 2 may even be able to work magic and get 3 of them.

 

[James in PA]

What the hell taking so long? Pull this trade off already. Now Philly is gonna have their dirty paws in the mix because they are severely banged up at corner and probably think they’re one player away from going to the Owl after beating Erin last night.


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[MontanaHawk05]

Can we not keep Ramsey & Clowney?

Ansah contract is 9 -13 million. Isn't that pretty much what we would pay for Ramsey but just a little more? Also do we resign Reed because of the incident. Seem like we have options, if we can win with Ramsey & Clowney now, then we dont Reed & Ansah.

Absolutely you could fit Ramsey's 15-16M per year new extension into the cap space next year if there's no Ansah and/or Clowney......and you don't extend Reed.

But then you're still in a situation where you have a great CB, but back to trying to piecemeal together a D-line with no Reed, Ansah and/or Clowney.

And I wouldn't assume any of our young cheap DE's rise up and make it not necessary to have to go get another Ansah or Clowney next year at 10-15M yr.

Im talking about keeping both Ramsey & Clowney.

Im also sure we will shop out Britt expiring 10mill contract next season or maybe now. What other player do we really need to resign besides Clowney.

Well if Clowney made a big stink about demanding to be traded from Houston, AND told the Seahawks he'd only allow being traded to us if we didn't franchise him next year, those are both pretty good indicators that he wants to hit FA and get a max deal.

Which is what? 20+M a year like Frank got? No thanks. So far Clowney's been good, but he hasn't been hand him 20M+ a year good. Not even close.

Nor would Aaron Donald if he were double-teamed every play.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Accurate

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

If the consensus is JS can't draft well in the first round we need a new GM.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm referring to the Aaron Donald comment.

 

[massari]

From today:

Among the teams that remain interested in Ramsey are the Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles, Oakland Raiders and Baltimore Ravens, according to the report.

https://news.yahoo.com/report-jags-owne ... 15500.html

 

[HawkFan72]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-down-two-first-round-picks-for-jalen-ramsey/

If this is true, I wonder if it was the Hawks that made the offer. Also, it is clear the Jags are going to dig in and have no intention of trading Ramsey.

 

[Seymour]

Great news!!
That means he is out of reach and that is a good thing. This team doesn't need his drama and price tag. :177692:

 

[chris98251]

This just proves that they have zero intention of moving him, turning down 2 firsts at the early part of the season when you never know which way things are going. There are like three teams you can hang you hat on to having a decent record and play off appearance at the end of the season. Patriots, Seahawks, Chiefs most likely. Patriots because of their history and weak division, Seahawks due to us finding a way to get there ever since Pete has been here pretty much and the Chiefs rising in the league.

Unless your the Dolphins, Cardinals or Redskins I would think everyone else is pretty much in the hunt in some way still, Falcons are another team that's may be trending the wrong way but I would not count them out yet, they have talent there.