Maulbert
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Maulbert":e5yh16w2 said:Just curious, a question to any and all 49er fans: can you tell me, without a shadow of a doubt, you have absolute faith that Garappolo is THE GUY? That the injuries are just bad luck, and that he will turn into a guy that is worth being the highest paid player in the league (which he was, even though it was only for a month an a half)?
I just don't see it.
Ramfan128":2rwvign4 said:rlkats":2rwvign4 said:I think Mullen’s played very well. He could start on most teams (including the niners). Question I have is, if Garappolo plays well and plays a full season is that enough to change the doubters minds? have to remind people shredding an ACL is a tough injury and one that anyone can get.
I think Jimmy will be fine. But this is a prove it or bounce year for him. We will see I guess
Most teams? Doubtful.
He could probably start on some teams - however, the Niners have had some good offensive games with JG, Mullens, and Hoyer in the past few years (some bad too - but at least one good/great offensive game with each of them).
I give Shannahan the credit for that - and I'd be willing to bet with most coaches, Mullens is a below average QB.
No controversy IMO - this is the first time the Niners will have fielded a competent NFL roster in years, so the reins will definitely go to JG - and if it doesn't go well, which is definitely a possibility, they will move on from him next year IMO.
chris98251":25s6ba0a said:From what I watched of the 49ers when Mullens was playing versus Grab a Ho the team played as a unit much more, Mullens has that it factor the rest of his team mates buy into. It becomes contagious. Small sample by what I watched but they seemed to have more heart.
NINEster":11c2l3yr said:chris98251":11c2l3yr said:From what I watched of the 49ers when Mullens was playing versus Grab a Ho the team played as a unit much more, Mullens has that it factor the rest of his team mates buy into. It becomes contagious. Small sample by what I watched but they seemed to have more heart.
Only Mullens has that it factor? LMAO.
Jimmy had more IT factor alone in his first snaps as a 49er moving the ball down decisively against the Seahawk defense and throwing that TD.
The top highlights from the Titans and Jags game included plays that Mullens has still not yet shown to do. He's a decent QB, but not on the same level.
What we are seeing here is classic "he's not really that good but let's pump him up to talk s*** about who we really want to knock down", in this case Mullens. Or maybe it's a way to rationalize an undrafted QB beating the Seahawks when it's been 5 years since that happened by 1st/2nd round Niner QBs.
Let me tell you guys something.......Niner teammates say things publicly about Jimmy they'd never say about Alex and Kap. The type of praise that is a little too risky if you don't really buy into it......or would come off fake, like if Jalen Ramsey said Bortles was a great QB....
Frank Gore looked traitorous giving Andrew Luck over the top praise, but at the end of the day players always "know". Gore is the all time consummate Niner of this millenium, would go to war for his ex Niner QBs still I'm sure, but never saw fit to praise them publicly the way he did Luck or the way George Kittle and Mike McGlinchey recently praise Jimmy G.
It's ok, ignore everything. Wilson is the only good QB in the division...... :roll:
chris98251":3gxy6uao said:NINEster":3gxy6uao said:chris98251":3gxy6uao said:From what I watched of the 49ers when Mullens was playing versus Grab a Ho the team played as a unit much more, Mullens has that it factor the rest of his team mates buy into. It becomes contagious. Small sample by what I watched but they seemed to have more heart.
Only Mullens has that it factor? LMAO.
Jimmy had more IT factor alone in his first snaps as a 49er moving the ball down decisively against the Seahawk defense and throwing that TD.
The top highlights from the Titans and Jags game included plays that Mullens has still not yet shown to do. He's a decent QB, but not on the same level.
What we are seeing here is classic "he's not really that good but let's pump him up to talk s*** about who we really want to knock down", in this case Mullens. Or maybe it's a way to rationalize an undrafted QB beating the Seahawks when it's been 5 years since that happened by 1st/2nd round Niner QBs.
Let me tell you guys something.......Niner teammates say things publicly about Jimmy they'd never say about Alex and Kap. The type of praise that is a little too risky if you don't really buy into it......or would come off fake, like if Jalen Ramsey said Bortles was a great QB....
Frank Gore looked traitorous giving Andrew Luck over the top praise, but at the end of the day players always "know". Gore is the all time consummate Niner of this millenium, would go to war for his ex Niner QBs still I'm sure, but never saw fit to praise them publicly the way he did Luck or the way George Kittle and Mike McGlinchey recently praise Jimmy G.
It's ok, ignore everything. Wilson is the only good QB in the division...... :roll:
Grab a Ho is Matt Cassel 2.0, will be forgotten soon enough and paid for a lot longer.
chris98251":1s213tos said:NINEster":1s213tos said:chris98251":1s213tos said:From what I watched of the 49ers when Mullens was playing versus Grab a Ho the team played as a unit much more, Mullens has that it factor the rest of his team mates buy into. It becomes contagious. Small sample by what I watched but they seemed to have more heart.
Only Mullens has that it factor? LMAO.
Jimmy had more IT factor alone in his first snaps as a 49er moving the ball down decisively against the Seahawk defense and throwing that TD.
The top highlights from the Titans and Jags game included plays that Mullens has still not yet shown to do. He's a decent QB, but not on the same level.
What we are seeing here is classic "he's not really that good but let's pump him up to talk s*** about who we really want to knock down", in this case Mullens. Or maybe it's a way to rationalize an undrafted QB beating the Seahawks when it's been 5 years since that happened by 1st/2nd round Niner QBs.
Let me tell you guys something.......Niner teammates say things publicly about Jimmy they'd never say about Alex and Kap. The type of praise that is a little too risky if you don't really buy into it......or would come off fake, like if Jalen Ramsey said Bortles was a great QB....
Frank Gore looked traitorous giving Andrew Luck over the top praise, but at the end of the day players always "know". Gore is the all time consummate Niner of this millenium, would go to war for his ex Niner QBs still I'm sure, but never saw fit to praise them publicly the way he did Luck or the way George Kittle and Mike McGlinchey recently praise Jimmy G.
It's ok, ignore everything. Wilson is the only good QB in the division...... :roll:
Grab a Ho is Matt Cassel 2.0, will be forgotten soon enough and paid for a lot longer.
toffee":1slgyge0 said:Mullens played well last year, and Garappolo is made of glass. Only homers should be surprised. Seriously, people were talking shit about Seattle paying Russ $35 million a year, at least he's played at a high level for 7 years. Garappolo got $27.5 million a year after only 7 STARTS. He hasn't shown even the slightest durability, and he makes Tony Romo look like Brett Favre. I said it before, and I'll say it again: the 49ers will regret that contract.
According to the 'experts' on that video, Shannahan already peeping at other QBs to replace Garappolo, one would think Shanny knows the most of GQ's limitations. But trading of Garappolo was their GM Lynch's crowning achievement, Lynch is standing 120% behind Garappolo. I can see some sparkles if Garappolo's didn't have a breakout year. As a 12, that's fun time to see Shanny vs Lynch, 'you signed the wrong dude' vs 'you couldn't coach worth shyt".
Go Mullen lol, would love to sign Mullen as Russ's backup.
NINEster":1ckghsh1 said:BTW, in Alex Smith's 49er career he only had two seasons with 16 starts.........2006 and 2011.
2005 rookie, 2007 injured had surgery, 2008 missed the entire season.........2009 and 2010 benched in a few spots.
2013-2018 a lot better. Not many games missed.
I like subliminally that the anti-49er fanbase is implying that Jimmy's durability is the biggest question mark on him. Would you want him QBing the Niners or the indestructible Eli Manning right now?
Right.
having top picks is great for rebuilding, see Browns?Marvin49":13qgwc40 said:toffee":13qgwc40 said:Mullens played well last year, and Garappolo is made of glass. Only homers should be surprised. Seriously, people were talking shit about Seattle paying Russ $35 million a year, at least he's played at a high level for 7 years. Garappolo got $27.5 million a year after only 7 STARTS. He hasn't shown even the slightest durability, and he makes Tony Romo look like Brett Favre. I said it before, and I'll say it again: the 49ers will regret that contract.
According to the 'experts' on that video, Shannahan already peeping at other QBs to replace Garappolo, one would think Shanny knows the most of GQ's limitations. But trading of Garappolo was their GM Lynch's crowning achievement, Lynch is standing 120% behind Garappolo. I can see some sparkles if Garappolo's didn't have a breakout year. As a 12, that's fun time to see Shanny vs Lynch, 'you signed the wrong dude' vs 'you couldn't coach worth shyt".
Go Mullen lol, would love to sign Mullen as Russ's backup.
There was no "peeping". LOL. The entire conversation was conjecture with zero sourcing of any kind. It was the typical story you see when they are running out of stuff to talk about and want to raise a ruckus and get people talking about something.
Florio so much as admitted it when he said "people will lose their minds". That was the entire intent. Welcome to Skip Bayless school of journalism.
Now...is this year a big you? Of course it is. Niners can't have another top 5 pick next year. No question. Jimmy G though is the guy. They aren't looking at other options.
Largent80":26mdlhpp said::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
So GLAD we have Russell Wilson, and have him for at least 5 years.
Sorry (not sorry) SF, but your suffering continues.
NINEster":tm6tziv5 said:Largent80":tm6tziv5 said::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
So GLAD we have Russell Wilson, and have him for at least 5 years.
Sorry (not sorry) SF, but your suffering continues.
Perspective is an interesting thing. :mrgreen:
I'm glad ya'll got Wilson too for the long haul. :irishdrinkers:
As long as the Seahawks never quite replicate the 2013/2014 defense and pick up a real stud RB, I'll sleep well at night. Now that all of Carroll's USC players, peers, and recruits have long been drafted, it's going to be real hard to find the next Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, etc. Lynch was a very lucky trade that will be hard to reproduce.
Seahawk fans never quite got the taste of what a 17 year dynasty looked like (like how it was in SF between '81-'98 with two coaches and two HoF QBs), so the perspective will never be the same as Niner fans. Wilson's postseason production the last few years has been subpar to put it politely. Niner fans would 90% want Wilson's head if he was our QB, and not GAF about his stats. I find the contrast, endearing. :lol:
Ask Patriots fans now if they could have Jimmy G or Wilson to succeed Brady, and an overwhelming portion will choose Jimmy.
Maulbert":2f3a4l52 said:NINEster":2f3a4l52 said:BTW, in Alex Smith's 49er career he only had two seasons with 16 starts.........2006 and 2011.
2005 rookie, 2007 injured had surgery, 2008 missed the entire season.........2009 and 2010 benched in a few spots.
2013-2018 a lot better. Not many games missed.
I like subliminally that the anti-49er fanbase is implying that Jimmy's durability is the biggest question mark on him. Would you want him QBing the Niners or the indestructible Eli Manning right now?
Right.
This isn't an anti-49ers fanbase board, I'm not an anti-49er fan, I'm a Seahawks fan, and you're little more than a sad troll.
NINEster":1cpk4of5 said:Maulbert":1cpk4of5 said:NINEster":1cpk4of5 said:BTW, in Alex Smith's 49er career he only had two seasons with 16 starts.........2006 and 2011.
2005 rookie, 2007 injured had surgery, 2008 missed the entire season.........2009 and 2010 benched in a few spots.
2013-2018 a lot better. Not many games missed.
I like subliminally that the anti-49er fanbase is implying that Jimmy's durability is the biggest question mark on him. Would you want him QBing the Niners or the indestructible Eli Manning right now?
Right.
This isn't an anti-49ers fanbase board, I'm not an anti-49er fan, I'm a Seahawks fan, and you're little more than a sad troll.
Semantics. I could/should have said "non 49er fans".......
Now focus on the point at hand.
Let's rephrase:
If the 2017 Jimmy G is an accepted "elite QB" of the NFL........then a possible "return" to that with the current Niner roster, assuming good health will leave a lot of teams/fans shook.
The only thing Wilson does really well is throw his deep balls and make wild off the record plays. Wilson's skill sets for an alleged top QB are so polarizing from skill to skill compared to others in that group.
Jimmy's ability to move the ball consistently is better than Wilson's. Was already proven by having the #1 ranking for points per drive in 2017, while Wilson was in the mid to upper 20s in that rank.....despite being #2 for TDs thrown that year.
chris98251":2inttgp6 said:NINEster":2inttgp6 said:Largent80":2inttgp6 said::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
So GLAD we have Russell Wilson, and have him for at least 5 years.
Sorry (not sorry) SF, but your suffering continues.
Perspective is an interesting thing. :mrgreen:
I'm glad ya'll got Wilson too for the long haul. :irishdrinkers:
As long as the Seahawks never quite replicate the 2013/2014 defense and pick up a real stud RB, I'll sleep well at night. Now that all of Carroll's USC players, peers, and recruits have long been drafted, it's going to be real hard to find the next Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, etc. Lynch was a very lucky trade that will be hard to reproduce.
Seahawk fans never quite got the taste of what a 17 year dynasty looked like (like how it was in SF between '81-'98 with two coaches and two HoF QBs), so the perspective will never be the same as Niner fans. Wilson's postseason production the last few years has been subpar to put it politely. Niner fans would 90% want Wilson's head if he was our QB, and not GAF about his stats. I find the contrast, endearing. :lol:
Ask Patriots fans now if they could have Jimmy G or Wilson to succeed Brady, and an overwhelming portion will choose Jimmy.
Yeah real pity that we have really only owned the NFC West for 20 years or so.