Percy's affect on W/L record

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Looking at the schedule and I see some tough games from week 13-17. Those first 3 games I could easily see us going 1-2 in. If Percy does indeed come back after our bye at full strength, I think that could be worth at least 1 more win.

Wk 13 Saints
Wk 14 @SF
Wk 15 @NYG
Wk 16 AZ
Wk 17 Stl


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EverydayImRusselin":194adchd said:
Looking at the schedule and I see some tough games from week 13-17. Those first 3 games I could easily see us going 1-2 in. If Percy does indeed come back after our bye at full strength, I think that could be worth at least 1 more win.

Wk 13 Saints
Wk 14 @SF
Wk 15 @NYG
Wk 16 AZ
Wk 17 Stl


Thoughts?

Good post... I agree, that is a tough stretch for sure. In addition, we will probably be in a dogfight for the division at this point in the season. Hopefully there won't be much of an acclimation period once he returns. We will need immediate production from him when he gets back. I just hope we are in a position to take the division by this point. Should be fun to watch it all unfold!
 
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13thMan":2tdnqgyk said:
EverydayImRusselin":2tdnqgyk said:
Looking at the schedule and I see some tough games from week 13-17. Those first 3 games I could easily see us going 1-2 in. If Percy does indeed come back after our bye at full strength, I think that could be worth at least 1 more win.

Wk 13 Saints
Wk 14 @SF
Wk 15 @NYG
Wk 16 AZ
Wk 17 Stl


Thoughts?

Good post... I agree, that is a tough stretch for sure. In addition, we will probably be in a dogfight for the division at this point in the season. Hopefully there won't be much of an acclimation period once he returns. We will need immediate production from him when he gets back. I just hope we are in a position to take the division by this point. Should be fun to watch it all unfold!


In a perfect world that 1 extra win is @SF. I'd sacrifice either of the other 2 games for that win.
 

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Given our schedule, we're going to have to have an amazing season to win the division. Hopefully the return of #11 results in wins @SF and @NY. I think we'll probably lose a game at home to one of those final three.

SF has a cakewalk of a schedule on the road this year (compared to ours). Most of their tough games are at home and I don't see them doing any worse than 12-4 or 11-5 with their schedule.
 

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E.C. Laloosh":1qnzdhy7 said:
Given our schedule, we're going to have to have an amazing season to win the division. Hopefully the return of #11 results in wins @SF and @NY. I think we'll probably lose a game at home to one of those final three.

SF has a cakewalk of a schedule on the road this year (compared to ours). Most of their tough games are at home and I don't see them doing any worse than 12-4 or 11-5 with their schedule.

I have been chastised many times for pointing this out. The Niners road schedule is essentially the opposite of ours. Add to that the fact that our road games are against good teams, east coast games, etc... The Niners play their toughest opponents at home. So yeah, you are right on point... If we take this division, we will have earned the hell out of it. As I said in another post, it will take 12-13 wins to take the division IMO, and that is heavily based on the relatively cushy schedule San Fran has...

At least the division race will be damn entertaining from start to finish. I don't remember this much drama in this division or in the NFC in general in quite some time.
 

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E.C. Laloosh":1hich4gt said:
Given our schedule, we're going to have to have an amazing season to win the division. Hopefully the return of #11 results in wins @SF and @NY. I think we'll probably lose a game at home to one of those final three.

SF has a cakewalk of a schedule on the road this year (compared to ours). Most of their tough games are at home and I don't see them doing any worse than 12-4 or 11-5 with their schedule.

If you look at the type of teams that give the niners a hard time, you'll see that balanced teams are their Achilles heel. Well, they play balanced teams a lot this season. With their secondary on the decline I think passing teams will also fare better against them this season. Factor in the fact that the wr that had 1/3 of all passing yards for them is gone and has been replaced by a guy that has never been good as a number one, and I see a sharp decline coming for the niners.
 

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E.C. Laloosh":327t3nu3 said:
Given our schedule, we're going to have to have an amazing season to win the division. Hopefully the return of #11 results in wins @SF and @NY. I think we'll probably lose a game at home to one of those final three.

SF has a cakewalk of a schedule on the road this year (compared to ours). Most of their tough games are at home and I don't see them doing any worse than 12-4 or 11-5 with their schedule.

If you look at the type of teams that give the niners a hard time, you'll see that balanced teams are their Achilles heel. Well, they play balanced teams a lot this season. With their secondary on the decline I think passing teams will also fare better against them this season. Factor in the fact that the wr that had 1/3 of all passing yards for them is gone and has been replaced by a guy that has never been good as a number one, and I see a sharp decline coming for the niners.
 

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That's a good point about the Niners. Everyone keeps saying the Niners are going to be so great, and they are. But, they aren't as good as they were last year, really. They haven't replaced Sopoaga with a proven talent, so their run defense could suffer. Their secondary is suspect and they added Wright and Asomugha, both CBs that weren't deemed good enough by poor teams and let go.

They have no talent on the outside at all, and no depth at WR either. They have to move Vernon Davis to WR, which makes him an easier matchup for us than against our LBers. Now you have Vance McDonald starting at TE, who is a rookie. It's hard to expect a rookie to come in and replace Davis's production and impact. After all that, I still expect 11 wins out of them, as they do have an easier schedule.

Harvin, if healthy, will probably make the biggest impact against SF, NY, and STL. These are all teams with either poor(er) defensive backfields, or in STL and SF's case, rookies that will be starting. Harvin should exploit those guys.

I also don't understand why everyone keeps saying that the NYG are going to be so tough at home. The Giants aren't typically a great home team the last few years, as a matter of fact, they play us tougher out here than they have at their house the last few times.

I agree that we're going to need 12 wins to take the division this year. This is why our divisional games are so important; if we can hang 2 losses on the Niners, and the Rams can hang one loss, that's 3 losses right there....they only have to lose 2 more games to get to 11-5. Even so, there aren't any games we can just give away, like Detroit and Miami last year.
 

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SF Closes with
At WAS
STL
SEA
At TB
ATL
at ARI

Hard to say how this will all shake out either - but I see at least 1 loss on their schedule :)

Realistically, I think they could lose 3 down the stretch (@Washington, Atlanta, and Seattle).
 

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Well, it's all pure speculation at this point. I would like to believe that the Niners have all these gaping holes, but frankly, I just don't see it. I think a lot of what is put out by some posters here is simply indicative of wishful thinking... Why aren't any of the experts killing the Niners for huge steps back at WR, DL, Secondary, etc.? In addition, I did watch the first preseason game of theirs this year and I gotta say... their 1st team offense looked considerably sharper than ours... Point is, I by no means am expecting a walk to the division title... IMO, it is going to take an amazing season on the Hawks part. Here's hoping I'm wrong...
 

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I will actually be disappointed in Harvin's replacement if Harvin, after missing more than a year of football, can waltz right into the teeth of our schedule, with an offense he's never played with before, and be more effective.

You know Pete and Bevell brainstormed all sorts of madness for Harvin. I doubt they abandon any of it and will run it with the "poor man's Percy Harvin", instead. I have no doubt... Tate is going to kick ass.

As far as wins and losses: I believe we will win every home game and I am confident we will sweep the division. We may end up cheering for SF to beat Atlanta in week 16. Who knows?
 

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You know Pete and Bevell brainstormed all sorts of madness for Harvin. I doubt they abandon any of it and will run it with the "poor man's Percy Harvin", instead. I have no doubt... Tate is going to kick ass.

there is much truth to this, and when percy returns, there will be two mad devils for other teams to deal with. imagine that craziness. :179422:
 

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13thMan":rpkprdmu said:
Well, it's all pure speculation at this point. I would like to believe that the Niners have all these gaping holes, but frankly, I just don't see it. I think a lot of what is put out by some posters here is simply indicative of wishful thinking... Why aren't any of the experts killing the Niners for huge steps back at WR, DL, Secondary, etc.? In addition, I did watch the first preseason game of theirs this year and I gotta say... their 1st team offense looked considerably sharper than ours... Point is, I by no means am expecting a walk to the division title... IMO, it is going to take an amazing season on the Hawks part. Here's hoping I'm wrong...
1. They are from the East Coast which means the NFL doesn't exist west of Mississippi unless your quarterback is Peyton Manning.

2. Krapperdink is tall so he must actually be better than Wilson.

3. Experts always ignore the obvious vs. the trendy and sexy...remember Krapperdink is TALL and has tattoos, very sexy right?

4. No worries, you're wrong but that's ok because you're a 49er fan so it's expected.

5. So disappointed that this koolaid emotion is red...... :179422:
 

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EverydayImRusselin":1pvebtyl said:
Looking at the schedule and I see some tough games from week 13-17. Those first 3 games I could easily see us going 1-2 in. If Percy does indeed come back after our bye at full strength, I think that could be worth at least 1 more win.

Wk 13 Saints
Wk 14 @SF
Wk 15 @NYG
Wk 16 AZ
Wk 17 Stl


Thoughts?

I think percy without a doubt is an asset, but i think we're pretty stacked with receivers. Would i feel better, oh YEAH!, but i'm thinking we'll get 2 out of those 3 regardless.
 
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HawkWow":3t8vltrq said:
I will actually be disappointed in Harvin's replacement if Harvin, after missing more than a year of football, can waltz right into the teeth of our schedule, with an offense he's never played with before, and be more effective.

You know Pete and Bevell brainstormed all sorts of madness for Harvin. I doubt they abandon any of it and will run it with the "poor man's Percy Harvin", instead. I have no doubt... Tate is going to kick ass.

As far as wins and losses: I believe we will win every home game and I am confident we will sweep the division. We may end up cheering for SF to beat Atlanta in week 16. Who knows?


I love Tate and all, but John isn't lining up to pay Golden Tate a 5yr $60m+ contract. They not only gave Percy that, they also gave up quite a few draft picks. I don't doubt that our offense will be very successful without Percy, but I think we will all see, he is going to add a whole other dimension to us when he is healthy.
 

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zhawk":37ixcpum said:
HawkWow

You know Pete and Bevell brainstormed all sorts of madness for Harvin. I doubt they abandon any of it and will run it with the "poor man's Percy Harvin", instead. I have no doubt... Tate is going to kick ass.

there is much truth to this, and when percy returns, there will be two mad devils for other teams to deal with. imagine that craziness. :179422:

I am still a bit miffed with Mr. Harvin but I'd be a liar if I said I am not excited to see him on the field. He needs to get 100% and I hope the powers that be allow that to happen.
 

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EverydayImRusselin":1ij8pxpn said:
HawkWow":1ij8pxpn said:
I will actually be disappointed in Harvin's replacement if Harvin, after missing more than a year of football, can waltz right into the teeth of our schedule, with an offense he's never played with before, and be more effective.

You know Pete and Bevell brainstormed all sorts of madness for Harvin. I doubt they abandon any of it and will run it with the "poor man's Percy Harvin", instead. I have no doubt... Tate is going to kick ass.

As far as wins and losses: I believe we will win every home game and I am confident we will sweep the division. We may end up cheering for SF to beat Atlanta in week 16. Who knows?


I love Tate and all, but John isn't lining up to pay Golden Tate a 5yr $60m+ contract. They not only gave Percy that, they also gave up quite a few draft picks. I don't doubt that our offense will be very successful without Percy, but I think we will all see, he is going to add a whole other dimension to us when he is healthy.


Without question. Harvin is breath taking in the open field and I'm not suggesting Tate is as dangerous, all things equal. But if Tate stays healthy and plays the position for the next 12 weeks, the continuity between he, RW and the rest of the offense SHOULD be too much for even Harvin to surpass.

I hear ya' on the money thing but I don't see that we have a choice in the matter. Tate was rather vocal (initially) about his displeasure with Percy coming in. Considering his closeness to RW, I think RW has been working with him behind the scenes re: preparation etc. I am certain Tate worked his tail off, if not for us, for his future with another team.

I can't even imagine the private jubilation Tate experienced when lil Percy decided to have the surgery. It was looking lie Tate's role would be slightly diminished and some of that intentional because of his pending contract negotiations. Now? Tate is in the driver's seat and I have no doubt this will be the best Golden Tate ever seen. 2 years of being called "The poor man's Percy Harvin" ? Great motivation. This might be his last season with us, but I know it's going to be a great one. His YAC will be as huge as his next contract. : (
 

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I was just browsing espn.com and there's an article on the hawks homepage that says, "Percy Harvin is way ahead of schedule". It's an insider article so I don't have access to it, does anyone here know anything else about this?
 
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