Per ESPN/Schefter, Hawks trade for OT Duane Brown

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Josea16":2q7l5t2g said:
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This next off season is going to be the year of hard choices.
Thank God they already have a new base core in place right? You're right that change is coming but we have the core on both sides of the ball to be fine and Russell Wilson. We also have plenty of cap space after 2017.

Likely we will be offense heavy or balanced like Kansas City for 4-5 years though. That ok with you?

What it really will come down to is what players they choose to keep, foundation or sentimental. Of course each of us is going to have a different list of these, but the results going forward is going to be the Golden ticket for the Window to remain open.
 

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chris98251":h6pfaa3d said:
Josea16":h6pfaa3d said:
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This next off season is going to be the year of hard choices.
Thank God they already have a new base core in place right? You're right that change is coming but we have the core on both sides of the ball to be fine and Russell Wilson. We also have plenty of cap space after 2017.

Likely we will be offense heavy or balanced like Kansas City for 4-5 years though. That ok with you?

What it really will come down to is what players they choose to keep, foundation or sentimental. Of course each of us is going to have a different list of these, but the results going forward is going to be the Golden ticket for the Window to remain open.
We will build around Wilson mostly but not totally. We will be balanced like Kansas City but with much better talent because that's how JC/PC roll and quarterback wise.

Until Mahomes comes in the latter case. That boy is this generation's version of Brett Farve which is hilarious considering the coach and situation. Total gunslinger like Watson but a pocket passer.
 

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Great decision. A Wide open league, a team with only one weakness, so why not take the leader seat and Win Now!
 

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kidhawk":xcl3uiud said:
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Signing bonus accelerated to the season in which a player is traded. Can you link us the rule that allows the bonus to hit next year because I've never seen it anywhere


Post-June 1 retirements and trades are treated the same way as a Post-June 1 release.


http://russellstreetreport.com/salaryca ... -cap-faqs/

Can't find anything more official but lots of references hat it works just like a release

Directly from your link...

Just like with the release of a player, the remaining unaccounted-for bonus pro-rations will accelerate and count against the team’s Salary Cap.

All remaining bonuses already paid and prorated accelerate to count against the current cap.

Read the Collective Bargaining Agreement. That is where all articles originate from..... per the CBA..Article 13...Section 6

"For any player removed from the Team’s roster or whose Contract is assigned via waivers or trade after June 1, except in the Final League Year, any unamor- tized signing bonus amounts for future years will be included fully in Team Salary at the start of the next League Year."

$2.5 million charge for 2018. We save $2.1 million on 2017 cap by trading him.

There will be $0 2019 cap charge for Lane. I'm not sure why Spotrac shows $6 million, it is an error. That is his cap hit for the Texans in 2018 & 2019, but he is off our books after 2018.
 

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mikeak":10yxl8mp said:
kidhawk":10yxl8mp said:
mikeak":10yxl8mp said:
kidhawk":10yxl8mp said:
Signing bonus accelerated to the season in which a player is traded. Can you link us the rule that allows the bonus to hit next year because I've never seen it anywhere


Post-June 1 retirements and trades are treated the same way as a Post-June 1 release.


http://russellstreetreport.com/salaryca ... -cap-faqs/

Can't find anything more official but lots of references hat it works just like a release

Directly from your link...

Just like with the release of a player, the remaining unaccounted-for bonus pro-rations will accelerate and count against the team’s Salary Cap.

All remaining bonuses already paid and prorated accelerate to count against the current cap.


Key word is REMAINING

It excludes signing bonus which we all know in case of release can be pushed to next year. By knowing that it clearly showed hat the sentence quoted doesn't apply to signing bonus. REMAINING bonus would be performance bonus etc

Edit: confirmed as 2019 cap spend for Lane $6 million

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/

Spotrac is a great tool, but sometimes they don't fully update their site correctly after trades/releases.

There will be no cap spend for Lane in 2019 on the Hawks cap. $6 million is his cap hit for the Texans in '18 & '19. He'll be off our books in 2018.
 

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TheLegendOfBoom":1rkh5fax said:
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LOL! I didn't know Odhiambo was rank dead last. I knew he was bad, but I didn't know he was THAT bad.

Man, that's a good trade. But Brown's age worries me.
Seeing Russell constantly run didn't tell you "Odhiamblows" was that bad??!!

Odhi IS that bad.

And Brown's age is not important - this year IS important.
 

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The Seahawks made a trade for a good left tackle?? What?! According to the national sports media, there was only ONE NFL trade made yesterday between New England and San Fran. Very interesting.


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Hawkfish":2tbunhi3 said:
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KIRO bock and Salk reporting that Russell Wilson converted some of his salary to bonus so they could get the cap space for Brown.
 

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Russell has a day to remember! Statistically the best game he ever puts up since he is in the league on Sunday, then the following day is rewarded $6M cash and a new all pro L tackle.

Gotta love that!!

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Great news! This certainly changes the landscape of the Oline for a couple of years. :irishdrinkers:
 

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7 holding penalties in his CAREER. That is hilarious.

By comparison, Penalty Ifedi has 5 holding penalties THIS SEASON.
To go along with like 274 false starts :pukeface:
 

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scrummymustard":1brl7yci said:
mikeak":1brl7yci said:
kidhawk":1brl7yci said:
mikeak":1brl7yci said:


Post-June 1 retirements and trades are treated the same way as a Post-June 1 release.


http://russellstreetreport.com/salaryca ... -cap-faqs/

Can't find anything more official but lots of references hat it works just like a release

Directly from your link...

Just like with the release of a player, the remaining unaccounted-for bonus pro-rations will accelerate and count against the team’s Salary Cap.

All remaining bonuses already paid and prorated accelerate to count against the current cap.


Key word is REMAINING

It excludes signing bonus which we all know in case of release can be pushed to next year. By knowing that it clearly showed hat the sentence quoted doesn't apply to signing bonus. REMAINING bonus would be performance bonus etc

Edit: confirmed as 2019 cap spend for Lane $6 million

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/

Spotrac is a great tool, but sometimes they don't fully update their site correctly after trades/releases.

There will be no cap spend for Lane in 2019 on the Hawks cap. $6 million is his cap hit for the Texans in '18 & '19. He'll be off our books in 2018.

Yup...Spotrac is wrong in listing his 2019 salary on our list. It's not surprising. These sites are getting the information and translating it to quickly get the figures out to the people. Sites like Spotrac and Overthecap usually get it all situated and cleared up over the next few days. Even that $2.5 million figure for next year isn't set in stone. That really depends on what Pete and John want to do moving forward. As Wilson created enough cap room with his cap restructure to take on the cap hit from the Brown trade, without further moves, that doesn't create enough space to take Lanes hit this year, so it's looking more likely they are pushing it off til next year. The problem with that is that it is going to give us that much less money to re-sign the list of players we need to re-sign, and if renegotiating Brown's deal isn't being done behind the scenes right now, then you can add his to the list. Even though he's got another year on the deal, it's a safe bet that he doesn't want to play under that deal next year as he already held out this year wanting a new contract. We may need to start preparing ourselves for some hard decisions by 2019.
 

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mistaowen":3s9rjair said:
Hawkfish":3s9rjair said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/925357208224722944[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AndrewBrandt/status/925348718198616065[/tweet]


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Our Wilson haters here will still find an angle to criticize Russell for doing this too.
 
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