justafan":1t99rrxu said:I thought this team needed a purge. Fresh start new coaches.
flmmkrz":30aun7b1 said:Were the cbs and safeties really taught to be ball hawks by Richard or was he gifted generational talents. Earl has other worldly skills, Sherm was so heady and had receiver instincts, Kam was just a beast and had a knack for creating turnovers... and whomever they sprinkled in just benefited from playing with those guys....the more that got asked of that 4th and beyond guy(s) or as they parlayed their success into paychecks away from these other 3 the more they got exposed.
Spin Doctor":263gtbmd said:Kris was let go because of the locker room situation. He didn't have much control over his players, some of them outright refusing to play the scheme. A good example of this is Richardson, he just did whatever. Richard was not able to reign his own players in. Pete responded by bringing in the hard nosed Ken Norton, a man respected by players, and a man who demands respect. Norton was brought in to be a drill sergeant.
He's been dialing up quite a bit of blitzes in Dallas. I think a lot of what we're seeing its Pete Carroll's philosophy. It's the old cover 2 system. The bend but don't break mantra with a few extra tidbits sprinkled in. Can't argue with the results here either.WestcoastSteve":3g29ii0z said:Spin Doctor":3g29ii0z said:Kris was let go because of the locker room situation. He didn't have much control over his players, some of them outright refusing to play the scheme. A good example of this is Richardson, he just did whatever. Richard was not able to reign his own players in. Pete responded by bringing in the hard nosed Ken Norton, a man respected by players, and a man who demands respect. Norton was brought in to be a drill sergeant.
You nailed it.
Richard lost his voice when Sherman cussed him out.
One thing I hate about dB coach coordinators is they pretty much never blitz. Richard was not very imaginative, Norton plays a lot of cover 3 drop 7 but like Quinn he is a little more aggressive than Richard and Bradley
WestcoastSteve":2rz5qjf0 said:chris98251":2rz5qjf0 said:I will start by saying he was too soft as a DC, too much Bradley in him. But what he brought was the ability to teach technique and not just to our CB's but Safety positions as well, when he was able to focus on the Secondary we were like developing juggernaut for secondary positions in the league, Maybe they can bring in Manual who was fired who was here at the same time and got his job in Jacksonville largely due to his work here.
I see two CB's that can play but are missing some ingredients that under Richard would have been there, all our CB's and Safeties were ball hawkers when Richard was here, it was because they were taught to read a Receiver and QB and play great position on them.
We need that ability coached into this new group, it is across the board, we had a large number of take away's this year but fewer interceptions then I remember and QB's didn't fear challenging our secondary, where we stepped it up was the LB'S that was Norton's influence.
Anyway thoughts......
Great post, someone posted last night Richard shut down our run game which I laughed at because he is their passing game coordinator and secondary coach..
MontanaHawk05":2hl340om said:It's nice to see Kris Richard getting some of the credit he deserves. Folks typically act as if Pete was the head coach, defensive coordinator, and DB coach all in one and solely responsible for the Legion of Boom.
Sgt. Largent":3fxgk9fi said:MontanaHawk05":3fxgk9fi said:It's nice to see Kris Richard getting some of the credit he deserves. Folks typically act as if Pete was the head coach, defensive coordinator, and DB coach all in one and solely responsible for the Legion of Boom.
I don't think anyone thinks this.
Pete's the first one to give his coordinators credit when things are going well, and Richard was no different. If I had to guess as to why Pete let him go it's because Kris was too close to the LOB and old guard defenders, and Pete knew that might cause friction going forward.
I've never seen Richard be particularly charismatic or engaging, but I bet he gets a lot of interviews after the Cowboys hopefully get spanked this weekend.
MontanaHawk05":28cfr75z said:Sgt. Largent":28cfr75z said:MontanaHawk05":28cfr75z said:It's nice to see Kris Richard getting some of the credit he deserves. Folks typically act as if Pete was the head coach, defensive coordinator, and DB coach all in one and solely responsible for the Legion of Boom.
I don't think anyone thinks this.
Pete's the first one to give his coordinators credit when things are going well, and Richard was no different. If I had to guess as to why Pete let him go it's because Kris was too close to the LOB and old guard defenders, and Pete knew that might cause friction going forward.
I've never seen Richard be particularly charismatic or engaging, but I bet he gets a lot of interviews after the Cowboys hopefully get spanked this weekend.
I meant fans.
And yes, they did. It was all "Pete's an AMAZING defensive backs developer!" Uh, Kris was the DB coach.
Sgt. Largent":3iw295sy said:So back on topic, did we lose anything letting Richard go? I don't think so, our DB's outperformed all my expectations this year, I thought they'd be downright awful after Earl got hurt........and other than Griffin's late season struggles, all four positions performed well above my expectations.
Doesn't mean I don't want more CB's and safeties drafted, especially if we can get a playmaker in the first couple of rounds. Our defensive backfield desperately needs playmakers, not just "solid."
Spin Doctor":1bovj763 said:Kris was let go because of the locker room situation. He didn't have much control over his players, some of them outright refusing to play the scheme. A good example of this is Richardson, he just did whatever. Richard was not able to reign his own players in. Pete responded by bringing in the hard nosed Ken Norton, a man respected by players, and a man who demands respect. Norton was brought in to be a drill sergeant.
MontanaHawk05":1kqnvi61 said:Sgt. Largent":1kqnvi61 said:So back on topic, did we lose anything letting Richard go? I don't think so, our DB's outperformed all my expectations this year, I thought they'd be downright awful after Earl got hurt........and other than Griffin's late season struggles, all four positions performed well above my expectations.
Doesn't mean I don't want more CB's and safeties drafted, especially if we can get a playmaker in the first couple of rounds. Our defensive backfield desperately needs playmakers, not just "solid."
Flowers is the only one who outperformed my expectations.
Coleman and McDougald played really well, but they already had a solid foundation coming in here.
Griffin regressed badly this year and Tedric never had a peak to regress from.
Spin Doctor":lt4jngya said:Kris was let go because of the locker room situation. He didn't have much control over his players, some of them outright refusing to play the scheme. A good example of this is Richardson, he just did whatever. Richard was not able to reign his own players in. Pete responded by bringing in the hard nosed Ken Norton, a man respected by players, and a man who demands respect. Norton was brought in to be a drill sergeant.