OMG, on a 49er forum about can the Seahawks be dethroned

[Giedi]

Saw you post at the *official* 49er boards. By the way, where *are* the official Seattle Seahawk forums? Been looking and cant find them at all.

They have tried a few times to make one, just never moderated properly or over moderated.

For all intent and purposes you are on the official board.

Oh, so that's what happened. I think there is one other seattle board, but I haven't been on there that often. I don't think I had problems getting on that board, but I did have some issues when getting on this board. It's all good now, though.

 

[Giedi]

Yep, he shows his true self over there, I understand him trying to behave himself over here which is good and all but it comes at the cost of hypocrisy.

I do that shit though. Of course if I am faced with serious conversation about the Niners here I won't go into full blown sarcastic shack rants. I can have a serious discussion about the Niners. On the DenialZone most of those boys actually believe that garbage. That's nothing new though.

Loafo, of course we believe that stuff. Afterall the word *fan* comes from the word *Fanatic,* and usually that means a guy not rooted in reality in the first place. :thirishdrinkers:

 

[Giedi]

/ quote="Giedi"By the way, where *are* the official Seattle Seahawk forums? Been looking and cant find them at all. /

There isn't one. Nobody knows why, as far as I know.

A couple of more superbowls and I'm sure the powers that be will grant you one!

Just kidding!

On webzone you show your true self and the webzone is a place for deluded homers who have the intelligence of a gnat and debating abilities of anal warts. I can see why you fit in there so well.

Yep, he shows his true self over there, I understand him trying to behave himself over here which is good and all but it comes at the cost of hypocrisy.

Not hypocrisy, just good behavior. Afterall this board is for all the Seattle Fans. There is some good info on these boards and I learn a lot by just reading a lot of knowledgeable Seattle fans posting about their teams. Loafo is a good role model, he is well behaved on the 49er boards. Nobody there has really ever had a problem with him from my personal point of knowledge. Now every board is different, and you just have to take each board as they are. Nothing much you can do about that.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Pretty sure people rode around in horse and buggy as their primary mode of transportation then, too.

You haven't lived until you tried to "get online" (see BBS's, the internet's grandfather) on a "commie 64" using 3200 baud plug in phone modem. 8)

My first computer was a Commodore 64 with a 2400 baud modem. It was old even when I got it as a kid in like 1994, lol.

You lived the good life then!

 

[chris98251]

Saw you post at the *official* 49er boards. By the way, where *are* the official Seattle Seahawk forums? Been looking and cant find them at all.

They have tried a few times to make one, just never moderated properly or over moderated.

For all intent and purposes you are on the official board.

Oh, so that's what happened. I think there is one other seattle board, but I haven't been on there that often. I don't think I had problems getting on that board, but I did have some issues when getting on this board. It's all good now, though.

A long time ago the official site had a forum, it was not moderated at all, it was in that era much like we here talk abiut the Web Zone, sort of a free for all, then the ownership hired an outside firm to moderate, well they were kicking so many people off it that it became a empty shell. It closed down, a few years back they started another up, I registered but the traffic was almost non existent, I think it just faded away.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Pretty sure people rode around in horse and buggy as their primary mode of transportation then, too.

You haven't lived until you tried to "get online" (see BBS's, the internet's grandfather) on a "commie 64" using 3200 baud plug in phone modem. 8)

My first computer was a Commodore 64 with a 2400 baud modem. It was old even when I got it as a kid in like 1994, lol.

You lived the good life then!

Yep, the 64 was old as hell by then. I bought my new 128 in 1986 in Korea. I played a lot of games on it when I got back to the US. Now I am thinking about sending it to the dark computer in the sky place. It seems to be taking up space I could be using for my backup computer. I would rather have one ready in case this one fades on me...and I may set up a wireless too.
2400 baud????? that was a fast one back in the day. 1800 at work was kinda pushing it too.

 

[loafoftatupu]

Pretty sure people rode around in horse and buggy as their primary mode of transportation then, too.

You haven't lived until you tried to "get online" (see BBS's, the internet's grandfather) on a "commie 64" using 3200 baud plug in phone modem. 8)

My first computer was a Commodore 64 with a 2400 baud modem. It was old even when I got it as a kid in like 1994, lol.

You lived the good life then!

Oh we all dabbled with the Commie. I even used the PET. I was fortunate enough to have parents that truly believed in computing early on. We had every MS operating system as released and I know Roland will love that we had the Apple 2 and Macintosh. (It could play chess dammit) But my first computer that I could call my own was the i386 DX50. With 3.1. It had the 14.4 modem, a 2g drive (unheard of in the early 90s) and a CD drive. 8mb memory. Built by Egghead. SMOKING.

loved File Manager.. my old man claimed that I would never fill that drive and he was right.

Oh how happy I was to get the Pentium 133 with Win95. The 28.8 modem and it had a 3Com LAN card and a 100k ISDN.

It gave porn a whole new meaning having that ISDN.

 

[loafoftatupu]

Oh Roland...soon after that I even lucked into a legit IBM intellistation as an advertising mistake made by Comp USA. Dude.. the P2 450 x2. 768 mb memory. Scored for the price of an Aptiva. Windows NT 4.0 for the dual proc support.

That was the year of the Catch 2 to Owens.

 

[lsheldon]

I used to have a 1.44 MB floppy labeled by Microsoft as Windows 1. It was basically just Dos Shell. Wish I still had that, because I've never seen another one since.

 

[loafoftatupu]

I used to have a 1.44 MB floppy labeled by Microsoft as Windows 1. It was basically just Dos Shell. Wish I still had that, because I've never seen another one since.

Heh.. that WAS when the Niners were dominating.

It was the shell, lol... you ran it from the floppy? I don't remember the size of that OS.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

You are all huge nerds.

 

[loafoftatupu]

You are all huge nerds.

Who's talking Ms. "No droppy drawers"?

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

You are all huge nerds.

Who's talking Ms. "No droppy drawers"?

Dammit!

 

[RolandDeschain]

You are all huge nerds.

Who's talking Ms. "No droppy drawers"?

Well, maybe no droppy to you.

:lol:

Kidding, Mizzou! Don't kill me.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

Pretty sure people rode around in horse and buggy as their primary mode of transportation then, too.

You haven't lived until you tried to "get online" (see BBS's, the internet's grandfather) on a "commie 64" using 3200 baud plug in phone modem. 8)

My first computer was a Commodore 64 with a 2400 baud modem. It was old even when I got it as a kid in like 1994, lol.

Wow that is old I got my C64 in 1984 when I was 8. By 94 my Amiga 500 had just about had it and I was getting my first PC. A DX4-100 at work and a Cyrix 686-166 with Matrox Mystique graphics card at home. Good times.

 

[lsheldon]

I find it hilarious that thread is 84 pages long. Goes well with a 104 page thread on whether Seattle is going to have cap casualties and a 24 page thread on whether the NFL should take steps to reduce stadium crowd noise (we all know that thread is about the Clink). And they call our fan base obsessed with them.

 

[rideaducati]

It's no great prognostication to say the Hawks don't win the 2014 title. It is difficult to do for anyone, but with the consistency of the roster and staff it should be easier to win it for the Hawks than a team that hasn't proven they can do it.

Talking about losing players? Who didn't lose players? What is important to note is that every area hit by the loss of a player is a position that can absorb it. The D line uses a rotation and a spot was back filled with talent, Thurmond and Browner? The Hawks already played a bunch of games without those guys. Same goes for Giaco and McQ. The only real concern I have is the change a PR. Losing Tate at WR isn't a problem to me, losing Tate the PR could be, but as long as the replacement isn't dropping kicks, the loss can be mitigated.

It isn't like the Ravens, who relied on a large number of expensive, veteran players or the Giants who consistently scraped into the playoffs and got Eli on his best for Playoff runs. The Hawks are not erratic, they have been a tough out since 2011.

The schedule? Not much different than the 49ers. The two games that are different are comparable. Would you rather play the Panthers or the Saints? Bears or Packers at home?

Whatever happens to the Hawks, they will remain in the conversation of a title until the core of the team cannot play well. Obviously this is a big deal to Niner fans because it has been a "us or them" thing. Just like the Niners are a big deal to us.

I think the loss of players has much more to do with big game showdowns in the playoffs than the ability to win 10-13 games in the regular season. Anyone who suggests that the Seahawks will become an 8 win team because of these losses is silly. But it could be the tipping point in games that are decided with 1 possession late.

The Niners have been here before with the Cowboys in the '90s. '92 the 49ers were outmatched in the trenches by Dallas, but had a bit more firepower to hide the real issues. '93 it came out more, and in the playoffs it was ugly, esp. on defense.

So the resolve in the '94 offseason was to admit the 49ers had some real issues and they would have to address them in free agency. They systematically hit all the areas of weakness and became world champions (barely).

Now I was addressing 49er additions, and not so much Cowboy subtractions. But you can look at it in similar ways if Seattle loses certain key guys that caused problems for SF -- particularly Red Bryant on defense, and Golden Tate on offense/special teams.

I've always expressed a bigger concern for the Seattle run defense more than the pass defense, as a 49er ground game that puts down 4.0+ YPC is a very tough team to beat. So if I could weaken the Seattle run defense further in the front 7 at the expense of you guys retaining Browner or Thurmond, I'd be for it.

As far as Tate is concerned he was an issue. I forget at what point of the NFCC it was when the Niners got a big score and Tate had a big return immediately after. I remember seeing similar breaking points against the Giants with David Wilson and Jacoby Jones with Baltimore.

I know Seahawks fans will spin it the other way, but I like the loss of Bryant and Tate going forward for critical matchups against the 49ers.

Meanwhile SF bolsters their WR corps, and appears to improve their running game. It very much feels like the '94 offseason where we're admitting we have to be more aggressive towards our rival.

As far as the schedule is concerned, I do feel the 49ers have a more favorable schedule as far as opponents and locations of games. Green Bay is clearly better than Chicago (or more consistently good in big games), and the Saints in their stadium is still a team that needs to be respected (we've yet to see these Seahawks play there yet). I think they still were a better home team than the Panthers were.

I like having the Chargers and Chiefs in Santa Clara while you get Denver and Oakland at home. You "waste" a home game versus Oakland, and possibly another against Denver. If SF beats Denver and Oakland on the road, they have it easier against the other two at home.

Looking at it historically, it's hard and pretty rare to go 4-0 against an intraconference division. Yes, Denver is the best team in that division but that only means over the course of a season not any one particular game. We're also assuming these teams stay the same from last year.

As far as the NFC East, SF goes to Dallas and to NYG, host Philly and Washington; you get the opposite. If we assume these teams stay the same from a year ago, I like that. The former two teams hardly have any home field advantage, and the Niners are assured warm weather games against the other two teams.

When I look at the Seahawks schedule overall, I see that they host a lot of very good teams. Depending on how you look at it, you can see that as a pro/con. Pro in that it gives the Seahawks a better chance to win, but Con in that the home schedule is noticeably tougher than last year's.

Can Seattle keep going 7-1 or 8-0 at home each year, while keeping up a 6-2 road record. That will be tough.

It's all about winning the NFC West for supremacy of the NFC IMHO. Based on the offseason transactions and schedule this year (and a little bit of homerism), I like SF.

I will admit that the secondary is a big question mark, and will continue to be until they prove themselves.

That big return was Baldwin, not Tate. Like the niners all you want and enjoy the freefall with them.

 

[loafoftatupu]

I don't think the Niners will experience a free fall, but they could experience a little regression early in the season. The spots on defense where players with less experience and zero Niner experience will be getting it during that early part of the season.

However many games Smith misses will be amplified by Bowman being out. This is the strength of the Niners D and it has provided protection to the secondary the last few years. With the secondary being what it looks to be those losses up front will show some impact. I have seen Niner comments from their fans that state the replacements are not that much of a dropoff. For Bowman and Smith? I see a big dropoff for what those two are capable of. I do believe that any defensive regression will create a situation where the offense tries to compensate by scoring more points. We can be assured that the QB has the load on his shoulders there.

It might not amount to much, but in this division every game counts. You only need to look at the last 2 seasons, the division over the that period is separated by a total of 1.5 games. It does matter.

 

[rlkats]

I don't think the Niners will experience a free fall, but they could experience a little regression early in the season. The spots on defense where players with less experience and zero Niner experience will be getting it during that early part of the season.

However many games Smith misses will be amplified by Bowman being out. This is the strength of the Niners D and it has provided protection to the secondary the last few years. With the secondary being what it looks to be those losses up front will show some impact. I have seen Niner comments from their fans that state the replacements are not that much of a dropoff. For Bowman and Smith? I see a big dropoff for what those two are capable of. I do believe that any defensive regression will create a situation where the offense tries to compensate by scoring more points. We can be assured that the QB has the load on his shoulders there.

It might not amount to much, but in this division every game counts. You only need to look at the last 2 seasons, the division over the that period is separated by a total of 1.5 games. It does matter.

Spot on loaf I completely agree.

 

[RichNhansom]

I don't think the Niners will experience a free fall, but they could experience a little regression early in the season. The spots on defense where players with less experience and zero Niner experience will be getting it during that early part of the season.

However many games Smith misses will be amplified by Bowman being out. This is the strength of the Niners D and it has provided protection to the secondary the last few years. With the secondary being what it looks to be those losses up front will show some impact. I have seen Niner comments from their fans that state the replacements are not that much of a dropoff. For Bowman and Smith? I see a big dropoff for what those two are capable of. I do believe that any defensive regression will create a situation where the offense tries to compensate by scoring more points. We can be assured that the QB has the load on his shoulders there.

It might not amount to much, but in this division every game counts. You only need to look at the last 2 seasons, the division over the that period is separated by a total of 1.5 games. It does matter.

There schedule is favorable for them through the early stages though. They play all non playoff teams on the road until week 7 and a bye week right after that. The NFL didn't do us any favors this year with the way they set up the schedules of both teams. It should be obvious that Niners will have some struggles early on the year without Bowman and that secondary trying to get comfortable. By the end of the season they should be coming into their own and its possible Aldon's suspension will be behind them as well as Bowman being back on the field.

Looking at the scheduling the last couple years you could make a pretty good argument the NFL is trying to give the Niners an assist with 5 early games vs 2 last year and now this year padding their schedule to get them through the bumps of new players and players missing time. Not to mention having us play them in Santa Clara on another Thursday night game. Hope they don't change calls again to prevent what would have been a clear turn over like the challenge last year.