Not exactly a ringing endorsement from PC on Moffitt

[HawKnPeppa]

I have never seen Moffitt slack on the field. Never.

He can't help it that he just isn't the athlete Sweezy is.

I don't think it's an effort issue. In a post-season presser, Cable talked about him being 'inconsistent.' I'm thinking it was lack of preparation that led to mental errors.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

How long does Sweezy get to be a "project". Im no o-line expert but sweezy looks awful, consistantly awful. We run better when Moffit is in.

He's a severe liability in pass pro. Let's throw Baily into that spot and see how he fares :mrgreen: I shoulda been an OL coach. :idea:

 

[VancitySeahawk]

Why would they cut Moffit? At the very least hes a good valuable back up.

 

[Scottemojo]

Why would they cut Moffit? At the very least hes a good valuable back up.

Because with Bailey, Person, Bowie, Jean-Pierre, and the only two out of three start group of Carp, McQuistan, and Sweezy, we have too many good players on the line.

 

[Happypuppy]

I don't seem him getting cut, traded perhaps; It comes down to money. He is on his rookie contract and a NFL bargain at a bit over a half million a year. He has played guard on left and right side as well as center.

 

[kearly]

Why would they cut Moffit? At the very least hes a good valuable back up.

Because with Bailey, Person, Bowie, Jean-Pierre, and the only two out of three start group of Carp, McQuistan, and Sweezy, we have too many good players on the line.

Rishaw Johnson too. I know they cut Johnson last year, but against the Chargers he was a more dominant run blocker than Bailey or Bowie was, and that's saying a lot. Whatever his problems may be, he's kind of like the John Lotulelei of our OL. Too talented to ditch, even if he might be a year or two away and might never get it completely together.

The Mariners once gave up on a David Ortiz a little too early and sorely regretted it, and I see Lotulelei and Johnson as being in that same category. Not saying they are locks to pan out, but they are just too enticing to let go without giving some time to prove themselves. I like Moffitt more than most, but I'd have the Seahawks release Moffitt over Johnson in a heartbeat.

 

[themunn]

I don't think we'll see Moffit cut just yet - at guard he's still the best option alongside McQuistan for pass blocking, something everyone else at the position really struggles with.

 

[McG]

I doubt they cut him. He's cheap and he's depth that could start or fill in for injury in the middle of game. Unless we have guys that are obviously beating him for the back-up role then he stays, but if he can't beat the back-ups then, yeah what a waste of a pick. A 3rd rounder is high for a G and seriously only 3 years in and to be getting beat by basically 7th rounders and UDFA's either means we have some great back-ups or he's a bust. Speaking of OL busts, Carp... but that's another story right there. Whoever is scouting the OL needs to be shit-canned or someone needs to scout the scout and see what his "upside" is because right now it's not looking great.

 

[Scottemojo]

Why would they cut Moffit? At the very least hes a good valuable back up.

Because with Bailey, Person, Bowie, Jean-Pierre, and the only two out of three start group of Carp, McQuistan, and Sweezy, we have too many good players on the line.

Rishaw Johnson too. I know they cut Johnson last year, but against the Chargers he was a more dominant run blocker than Bailey or Bowie was, and that's saying a lot. Whatever his problems may be, he's kind of like the John Lotulelei of our OL. Too talented to ditch, even if he might be a year or two away and might never get it completely together.

The Mariners once gave up on a David Ortiz a little too early and sorely regretted it, and I see Lotulelei and Johnson as being in that same category. Not saying they are locks to pan out, but they are just too enticing to let go without giving some time to prove themselves. I like Moffitt more than most, but I'd have the Seahawks release Moffitt over Johnson in a heartbeat.

Not something I can include in a forum discussion, but if you ever see Rishaw interviewed he is the dumbest sounding person on the planet. His pass blocking doesn't look smart either. Seriously, I wonder if the guy has the brains to adjust to line calls. Does the coaching staff care? Not if a guy can play. See: Bruce Irvin. But by and large we have a articulate team. It is one of the more notable differences between the Hawks and Niners.

 

[chevelle03]

I really hope Moffit doesn't get cut this year. Moffit is still cheap, and the other options are just too young and unproven. Moffit has proven to be an average starting NFL lineman over 17 regular season games, which isn't a bad thing. The rest of the guys have looked good in practice and preseason games. However, Moffit will most likely have to improve A LOT if he wants to be on this team in 2014.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Cheap or not, if he doesn't produce, or look good enough in PC's eyes, he'll be on the bench or gone. That's what's good about Pete, he doesn't care what you make, where you were drafted, or even IF you were drafted. He does what he thinks is best for the team. You're right, he will have to really show something. It's hard to not get the feeling that he's on thin ice, if that makes any sense.

 

[taz291819]

Read an article a day or two ago where RW said that while Moffitt jokes around a lot in the locker room, on the field he's all business. It also talked about how Moffitt changed his diet this off-season, he's lost 10lbs, and gained more upper-body strength.

So, with that said, does anyone think this is Pete's "motivational" way of keeping Moffitt on the right track?

 

[chevelle03]

Read an article a day or two ago where RW said that while Moffitt jokes around a lot in the locker room, on the field he's all business. It also talked about how Moffitt changed his diet this off-season, he's lost 10lbs, and gained more upper-body strength.

So, with that said, does anyone think this is Pete's "motivational" way of keeping Moffitt on the right track?

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/08/13/2727950/moffitt-drops-weight-to-lift-chances.html

 

[chevelle03]

That's obviously why MRob left him out of the last RRR....
He is outside the circle of trust.

Maybe he wasn't on the RRR because he didn't say or do anything funny because he is so focused on winning a roster spot.

 

[Largent80]

I like Moffitt as the funny guy he is, but I want an O-Line that comes at you with an attitude, not a joke.

 

[Hawkscanner]

I have never seen Moffitt slack on the field. Never.

He can't help it that he just isn't the athlete Sweezy is.

Completely agree 100%. And as Jville noted above, Moffitt himself flatly admitted that. Sweezy was raw and inexperienced last year, but has the higher upside because he is more athletic. In fact, Carroll last year said that Sweezy was their most athletic lineman that they had.

Moffitt OTOH, is more experienced and polished, a high effort, hard working blue collar guy ... but he just flat out isn't the athlete that Sweezy is. I agree with Kearly in saying Moffitt starts for most NFL teams out there. The fact that we're even talking about him possibly getting released has NOTHING to do with Moffitt per se ... and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that 1 year later Sweezy has closed the gap and that this roster is now stacked in terms of talent. Carroll told Brock and Danny that this Seahawks roster was the deepest group he's had since he's been here ... and that it reminds him of the depth he had on his USC teams circa 2005.

If Moffitt ends up getting cut, he'll get snatched up immediately. Because of that, I'm personally hoping that (as the Preseason is wearing down) that if the organization doesn't believe Moffitt is going to make the 53 Man roster that they will look to work out a trade instead of just flat out releasing him. Is it completely out of the question to say Schneider could get at least a 5th round pick for Moffitt?

 

[kidhawk]

I don't think he makes it. I dig his personality, but he just doesn't cut it on this team. We need probowlers on the line, not low-effort pranksters.

Sweezy doesn't wow me either, but his ceiling is definitely higher.

I know moffitt likes to joke around but what makes you think he is low effort? Has there been reports that he was not giving his all? I ask because I dont know and you seam to.

Seems like I've read in a couple of places that he doesn't appear to give 100% on every play. Maybe I dreamed it. Still, I stand by my assessment.

I would tend to kind of agree going on his past performance but from what I've seen and heard about him so far this year, he seems to have buckled down a bit and is really giving his full effort. It could well be that he saw the writing on the wall and maybe it's the kick in the pants he needs. Either way, Sweezy has a long way to go before I have faith in him in pass protection. I saw him getting beat way too many times when he was in there last year. Hopefully we have Carpenter back and the Sweezy/Moffit combo are just fighting it out for depth. I like them both as situational/depth guys, just don't think either of them are as good as either McQuistan or Carpenter

 

[CalgaryHawk]

I'd prefer to keep Moffit and have the safety factor there if one of the guards gets hurt. I don't think we could get more than a 7th round pick for him honestly.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

Lots of people writing off Moffitt; not one of them can point to in-game performance where he was sub-par. Not one. The big negative against him is... he's funny? Fer real?

Sweezy has been given so much slack for "potential" and "high ceiling." More than any Seahawk in recent memory, all because of the underdog factor. Meanwhile, he flat-out screwed up often on game days.

I'm rooting for all the Hawks and trusting our coaches to make the right call. Some people here are really reaching on this one. If you want to parse Pete's presser, you could focus on the "J.R. is looking better than last year and he's trying to hold (Moffitt) off." So no ringing endorsement for Moffitt, but none for Sweezy either. No real news here.

 

[Scottemojo]

Lots of people writing off Moffitt; not one of them can point to in-game performance where he was sub-par. Not one. The big negative against him is... he's funny? Fer real?

Sweezy has been given so much slack for "potential" and "high ceiling." More than any Seahawk in recent memory, all because of the underdog factor. Meanwhile, he flat-out screwed up often on game days.

I'm rooting for all the Hawks and trusting our coaches to make the right call. Some people here are really reaching on this one. If you want to parse Pete's presser, you could focus on the "J.R. is looking better than last year and he's trying to hold (Moffitt) off." So no ringing endorsement for Moffitt, but none for Sweezy either. No real news here.

Hey, I love the fact that Moffitt is a funny public pisser. Doesn't make him one of the 9 or 10 best lienmen on this team. If you heard Kirwan asking Pete about Sweezy, it was a ringing endorsement. Kirwan was telling him that Sweezy looked like one of those linemen that will dominate the game someday, and Pete agreed.