MNF Predictions

[bandiger]

At least Seahawks made it respectable, Chiefs are getting embarrassed. Rodgers is too good.

Refs need to start calling these offsides/false starts dead.

The 12 man on the field rule needs to be changed in the offseason I guess if rodgers is going to be a little girl about it.

Can't really complain, a free play produced a game winning lead against the Niners in the SB run. Rodgers just abusing the rule, that NFL will be forced to look into it.

That free play was legit because the Hawks OL didn't jump in response to the offsides. The issue with the Packers is that they're being granted free plays even when their OL moves before the snap. By rule, the play is dead, but the refs have been letting them play on.

To be clear, the issue is not that Rodgers is abusing the rule, it's that the refs are being woefully incompetent.

The 12-men rule I think is fine. You've just gotta hustle or burn a timeout if you don't want to get caught.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[CPHawk]

Anyone who thinks Arizona is better than Green Bay is high. Watching Rodgers I feel pretty good about the rest of our season, because we could have beat these guys, and we won't face another qb even in the same universe as Rodgers.

 

[Hawk-Lock]

I'm well aware of the rule. If the refs missed it, then that is unfortunate. Regardless of the missed calls, GB is dominating KC. With or without the refs, KC has no business being in this game.

ARod is just too good.

 

[253hawk]

No business being in this game?

We were down 16-0 after 40+ minutes to GB in the NFCCG and still won. KC was only down 10 going into half until that awful no-call.

 

[ClutchDJ]

Alex Smith is one of the worst QBs in the league & I'm not even exaggerating in the slightest.

He handcuffs the offense like no one's business and he never gets benched for it. Incredible.

 

[Hawk-Lock]

No business being in this game?

We were down 16-0 after 40+ minutes to GB in the NFCCG and still won. KC was only down 10 going into half until that awful no-call.

Are we watching the same game? If not for some garbage time yards at the end of the first half, KC has about 50 total yards. Regardless of the calls, this is a whipping.

 

[dontbelikethat]

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[Natethegreat]

Unreal, it happens again. Guy jumps offsides offensive lineman jumps as well points to defensive lineman play goes on. No way they can miss this so many times on accident.

 

[Reaneypark]

Unreal, it happens again. Guy jumps offsides offensive lineman jumps as well points to defensive lineman play goes on. No way they can miss this so many times on accident.

I'm sure after this game, opponents will tell their guys to just go full-speed when they jump to either drill Rodgers or get an unabated whistle. Rodgers won't get away with this much longer, defenses will adjust.

 

[joeseahawks]

Should Godell investigate this offside business and suspend the GB Packers for cheating? :sarcasm_off:

 

[gonzhawk]

Yes, the offsides "play" will stop when the next time it happens someone just hits the QB instead of letting him just throw with complete impunity....

 

[TheRealDTM]

holy smokes GB getting another free timeout on this 2point play.

 

[Scottemojo]

There is something weak ass about relying trying all damn game to get 12 men on the D and barking so you can get free plays.

Being weak ass will catch up with GB eventually.

 

[Alexander]

Unreal, it happens again. Guy jumps offsides offensive lineman jumps as well points to defensive lineman play goes on. No way they can miss this so many times on accident.

Assuming I'm thinking of the same play, I think in this case the ball had already been snapped. The one earlier in the game was a bit more iffy. Last week they definitely missed it on the Sherman PI play.

I agree with others, though, that teams will pretty soon figure out how to combat this. For now, though, it's working like a charm. Like Rodgers needed another charm.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

There is something weak ass about relying trying all damn game to get 12 men on the D and barking so you can get free plays.

Being weak ass will catch up with GB eventually.

I'd bet it'll happen in the NFCCG it's exactly like that "Omaha" crap Peyton was pulling a couple years ago or the shady substitution games New England was pulling last year. It will be nailed down and stopped cold soon.

 

[Ambrose83]

There is something weak ass about relying trying all damn game to get 12 men on the D and barking so you can get free plays.

Being weak ass will catch up with GB eventually.

I'd bet it'll happen in the NFCCG it's exactly like that "Omaha" crap Peyton was pulling a couple years ago or the shady substitution games New England was pulling last year. It will be nailed down and stopped cold soon.

you do understand that the packers can lose games right? I agree they look very good but saying they will be hosting the NFCCG now is a bit early.

 

[NINEster]

At least Seahawks made it respectable, Chiefs are getting embarrassed. Rodgers is too good.

Refs need to start calling these offsides/false starts dead.

The 12 man on the field rule needs to be changed in the offseason I guess if rodgers is going to be a little girl about it.

Can't really complain, a free play produced a game winning lead against the Niners in the SB run. Rodgers just abusing the rule, that NFL will be forced to look into it.

That free play was legit because the Hawks OL didn't jump in response to the offsides. The issue with the Packers is that they're being granted free plays even when their OL moves before the snap. By rule, the play is dead, but the refs have been letting them play on.

To be clear, the issue is not that Rodgers is abusing the rule, it's that the refs are being woefully incompetent.

The 12-men rule I think is fine. You've just gotta hustle or burn a timeout if you don't want to get caught.

This nuance of OL moving or not moving is pointless......

When the DL jumps offsides they almost always try and get back....the real world pass rush is garbage either way in those scenarios. Look at it from the practical point of view -- the QB always has AN HOUR to throw in those situations.

Only play that needs to be blown dead is if the defender coming off a blitz has an unabated shot to the QB. Then you have to stop it naturally.

 

[253hawk]

A defender in the neutral zone when the ball is snapped is a free play, but making the OL jump is not. It's basically a false start, negating the ball from becoming live, but the neutral zone infraction supersedes it due to cause > effect. That's why some OL coaches tell their guys to move immediately when someone jumps over the ball spot; it's a free 5 yards if you can react in time.

Why do you think the OL always does the tippy toe dance and starts pointing at the DL while looking for a ref when this happens? GB's RT and RG did it last week during one of the offsides plays where we got burned, because the entire defense expected the play to be dead as well. Unabated, encroachment and causing the OL to move are all dead-ball penalties. The only way a free play happens is if the OL doesn't react and no contact is made by the defense, then it's just like any other play except that it becomes impossible for the offense to commit a turnover.

Am I in twilight zone or something? Why all of a sudden is this rule such a mystery to people, or why do they have it completely backwards?

 

[Alexander]

That free play was legit because the Hawks OL didn't jump in response to the offsides. The issue with the Packers is that they're being granted free plays even when their OL moves before the snap. By rule, the play is dead, but the refs have been letting them play on.

To be clear, the issue is not that Rodgers is abusing the rule, it's that the refs are being woefully incompetent.

The 12-men rule I think is fine. You've just gotta hustle or burn a timeout if you don't want to get caught.

This nuance of OL moving or not moving is pointless......

When the DL jumps offsides they almost always try and get back....the real world pass rush is garbage either way in those scenarios. Look at it from the practical point of view -- the QB always has AN HOUR to throw in those situations.

Only play that needs to be blown dead is if the defender coming off a blitz has an unabated shot to the QB. Then you have to stop it naturally.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. By rule, a neutral zone infraction that leads to a false start needs to be blown dead. It's clearly spelled out in the rules.

Are you trying to say the rule should be changed? If so, why?

The rule as it currently stands makes perfect sense. If you're the offense, you only get the free play if you don't move prior to the snap. If you want to bank the five-yard penalty, you move before the defender has a chance to reset. It's really not that complicated.

 

[ptisme]

There is something weak ass about relying trying all damn game to get 12 men on the D and barking so you can get free plays.

Being weak ass will catch up with GB eventually.

I'd bet it'll happen in the NFCCG it's exactly like that "Omaha" crap Peyton was pulling a couple years ago or the shady substitution games New England was pulling last year. It will be nailed down and stopped cold soon.

That was NOT the difference in that game.