Matt Flynn's future

[redeye81]

I think we'd all LOVE to see what Flynn would do but again that decision was made.. it's over. The fact he not starting tells me everything. We tried like MAD to get Manning and failed. We visited with Flynn and then let him go to Miami to visit with his old coach. Does that tell you somehting? Why were there not tons of teams beating down his door? I am not trying to put down Flynn just wondering... He is proven to be a GREAT backup.. Maybe it's the film study, leadership or something us fans dont see? Those are the things we should wonder about. Can he step up, do what the coaches want and become a leader next year? Maybe.. I don't know.

 

[Largent80]

This should be right up his alley......

http://www.amway.com/start-a-business

 

[MontanaHawk05]

I think he could be a solid starter with a strong defense and an offense that fits him well.

Like... Seattle maybe?

No, Seattle's offense doesn't fit Flynn at all.

 

[CASeahawk]

I think he could be a solid starter with a strong defense and an offense that fits him well.

Like... Seattle maybe?

No, Seattle's offense doesn't fit Flynn at all.

What offense? It apparently doesn't fit RW either.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

 

[CASeahawk]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

Their secondary is awful.

 

[pinksheets]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

Their secondary is awful.

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.

 

[Throwdown]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

Their secondary is awful.

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.

Boom

 

[scutterhawk]

His future is backup QB or third string QB. He is not a starting QB in the NFL. There is nothing he does that is special except hold a clipboard. Allowing a rookie 3rd round QB to beat him out was as much telling of him as RW. It also says a lot that nobody was lining up for his services. He will probably be back in Green Bay next year if I had to guess. We will cut him at seasons end.

In the NFL you "deserve" nothing. You earn everything and he hasn't earned a chance to see the field on the Seahawks. You see Clipboard Jesus? Him and Flynn are the same. The only reason Hawk fans like him is they originally talked themselves into him being Matt 2.0, bought his jersey, only to see him lose his job.

Haha!

The thing that cracks me up about this whole thing is that BOTH sides of the debate extrapolate so much from so little data.

I guess Flynn sucks now because he a) never beat Aaron Rodgers out of his job, and b) didn't look good in preseason. Preseason is what really matters--forget about his record setting games in GB.

I am not posting this to bash on Wilson. The guy showed me something in the NE game, so I am done calling for Flynn.

Saying Flynn sucks is pretty flippin' laughable, though.

This.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

No, Seattle's offense doesn't fit Flynn at all.

What offense? It apparently doesn't fit RW either.

It fits Wilson much, much better than it does Flynn. Pete Carroll has long been known in Seattle as wanting a big-armed, mobile QB. Flynn is a misfit by that description alone. Running is at the core of PC's offense, and that means more than just fewer passing downs for the QB to screw up. It's code for wanting a convincing play-action seller QB who can quickly reestablish reads downfield after the play-fake and make deep strikes down the field. Flynn's the opposite, a pass-first, short/intermediate guy who almost never had to use play action in Green Bay (because they ran less than any team in the league) and took a long time to get rid of the ball when he did. PC also wants a guy who can make plays with his legs, perform bootlegs and rollouts, throw well on the run. Flynn is not horrible in that regard, but he's nowhere near the neighborhood of Wilson's elusiveness in that regard.

Also, PC is turnover-phobic to the point of neurosis. Wilson has a reputation from college as a smart decision-maker who never took risks with the ball. That wasn't Flynn's reputation from Green Bay. I don't remember the exact per-snap turnover percentage that Scottemojo mentioned from Flynn's attempts in Green Bay, but it was higher than Wilson's.

So between Wilson's physical characteristics, his talent at selling play-fakes, and his ball security reputation, he's a better fit in Seattle. In fact, given PC's preaching on big arm and big legs, I'm still mildly surprised he even signed Flynn. I'm not really speaking of Bevell's offense, because I don't really know what that is and I don't even think he'll be here next year.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

Their secondary is awful.

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.

Haha... He's gone quiet.

 

[RichNhansom]

Scratch every word you just typed Montana, we run a WCO. Or at least we did until now and why we aren't now is pretty obvious. If you believe a WCO QB doesn't fit a WCO coordinator then you just don't get it.

But then you said defenses only stacked the box against Hasselbeck because of his noodle arm. Does that mean Tjack and Wilson have noodle arms?

 

[scutterhawk]

Ya, PC and JS have shown that they really know their shit when it comes to picking Quarterbacks eh?, Jackson, Whitehurst, AND then giving Flynn a huge paycheck (more than what they gave Jackson) to stand on the sidelines to replace Clipboard Jesus,,, (the fans nickname, and the reason why they feel the need to find someone to take his place in their minds)

PC & JS haven't proven anything about fitting the Seahawks with Quarterbacks YET, so the fans can be given a pass when it comes to this issue.
Can Wilson become the answer we've all been praying for, I sure as hell hope so, but apparently PC & JS had no problem shelling out the big bucks on bringing Matt Flynn in to maybe be the answer at QB, and THAT is the reason for all this Quarterback controversy, so some of you guys have no ammunition when it comes to calling someone elses opinion as the wrong one.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Scratch every word you just typed Montana, we run a WCO.

What you just wrote means absolutely nothing. How many teams run a variation of the WCO these days? Trying to define the different versions of the WCO is like trying to pin Seattle's current defense down as an orthodox 4-3. It isn't. Seattle's offense lends itself to some aspects of the WCO, but it's a million frickin miles away from a traditional WCO.

 

[RichNhansom]

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.: Quote:

there is a big difference between Detroit's secondary where Flynn put up 480 yards and 6 TD's vs a much worse secondary where Wilson put up 293 yards and 3 TD's.

 

[pinksheets]

They didn't "shell out the big bucks" to Flynn to be "the answer at QB". They gave him a modest contract to address a position of weakness before they went into the draft.

 

[pinksheets]

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.: Quote:

there is a big difference between Detroit's secondary where Flynn put up 480 yards and 6 TD's vs a much worse secondary where Wilson put up 293 yards and 3 TD's.

There's also a difference where Wilson led his team to victory against NE and Flynn did not. We can go back and forth about this all day.

It's also worth remember that this big performance earned him hardly any interest in FA, not even from his former OC. Plenty of professionals have made a determination on Flynn, just because some Flynn supporters have not had their personal curiosities answered by actually starting Flynn in real games as a Seahawk does not mean that we don't know what we have. The coaches could very well feel that they know what they have, and they don't like it a whole lot.

 

[scutterhawk]

Yeah... we had no offense against the Pats.

Their secondary is awful.

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.

And "Good Offenses" should be able to take advantage of teams like the SF 49rs too eh?
We're on the journey, but we're not there yet.
And IF JS & PC picked Flynn because of that scenario?, then it was a dumb move on their part , because they spent multi million$ to get Flynn when they didn't need to.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Good offense against awful secondaries is the reason Flynn was a talked about free agent.: Quote:

there is a big difference between Detroit's secondary where Flynn put up 480 yards and 6 TD's vs a much worse secondary where Wilson put up 293 yards and 3 TD's.

Clearly you've not seen much of a Detroit injury hit secondary.

But that's OK - most people who use that game as the sole basis for an opinion suffer from the same issue.

 

[pinksheets]

And "Good Offenses" should be able to take advantage of teams like the SF 49rs too eh?
We're on the journey, but we're not there yet.
And IF JS & PC picked Flynn because of that scenario?, then it was a dumb move on their part , because they spent multi million$ to get Flynn when they didn't need to.

It's not the reason they signed him, but it is the reason everybody is clamoring for him like he's the second coming.

If Flynn just stays as our back up, he's being paid only marginally more than TJack and Whitehurst, he is not on some unprecedented huge contract. The deal is modest and team friendly.