hawknation2014
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Posted on FEB 20, 2014:
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Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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hawknation2014":zis7ite0 said:I don't get Martin at all. He looks slow and weak to me. He had a terrible 2012 season at offensive guard, and one year later at center, and now he's suddenly a top center prospect? It doesn't add up.
hawknation2014":zis7ite0 said:Martin was arguably USC's worst offensive linemen in 2012. He was benched twice: once against ASU in favor of a walk-on named Abe Markowitz and then in their bowl game in favor of a true freshman named Max Tuerk. Martin allowed multiple sacks in losses in the previous two games, which led to being replaced with less experienced players. Tuerk was named All-Conference Honorable Mention, while Martin received no honors from the conference that year.
His play improved enough in 2013 to earn All-Conference Honors, but he was far from the best center in the Pac-12. That honor should go to Oregon's Hronis Grassu, who is a much better athlete.
This is just an incredibly weak year for center prospects. Martin has a terrible year playing guard on his resume, and a medicare year as a center. He has no power and is very slow out of his stance. I think this is another one of those times where draftniks will overrate the fact that a center is big with long arms. Does he have legitimate power? No. Most of his weight is "bad weight." Does he have ideal quickness for the center position? Absolutely not.
I wouldn't even think about considering him until the end of the fifth round.
Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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hawknation2014":zis7ite0 said:Unfortunately, our scouts aren't allowed to comment on such things for obvious reasons. I agree with this assessment of Martin; would not touch him in the first three rounds. Slow, weak, and inconsistent. I don't think he's an NFL starter.
I have watched every game he's played in the last three years. I remember all the sacks and tackles for loss Martin allowed this year. I watched him get benched after giving up two sacks against Stanford in 2012, and then he got benched again in the Sun Bowl after allowing two sacks against Notre Dame. On top of that, he has knee problems. He's not an NFL player.
hawknation2014":zis7ite0 said:It's a late pre-draft smokescreen. Martin will be there at No. 64, but the Seahawks won't consider taking him.
Here's what some scouts had to say about Martin:
"On tape he looked like he was a pudgy little rascal," one scout said. "He had a little bit of uneven in his play. I wondered about strength if he gets covered up with a nose. He was real competitive. You knew he was leading the pack. He was athletic enough with good strength, not great strength." Started 20 games at LG before moving to the pivot in 2013 and starting 13. "Better player than he is an athlete," another scout said. "He's not great at the second level. Kind of a Steady-Eddie, but effective." Longest arms (34) among centers. Wonderlic of 20. "Boy, I didn't like that guy at all," a third scout said. "I thought that guy was soft and non-physical. He's got a bad body."