Let the bidding begin!!!

[getnasty]

Give me the Giants two 1st round picks, Danny Dimes and Andrew Thomas. Draft Stingley and best DE available and call it a deal.

 

[keasley45]

So now Russ isn't a good leader Keasley? He voiced his concerns, he also said he needs to play better. No different than what any other QB would say. And he's not wrong at all. Shoot, if you want to really look at guys who call out their team? Rodgers, year after year. Nobody seems to care. Manning said "let's just say we had protection problems tonight" and he was applauded for it.

In that moment, no. It was a calculated play thus entire offseason to bloster his image and position.

It wasn't a generalization. It was describing his action in that moment.

 

[keasley45]

So now Russ isn't a good leader Keasley? He voiced his concerns, he also said he needs to play better. No different than what any other QB would say. And he's not wrong at all. Shoot, if you want to really look at guys who call out their team? Rodgers, year after year. Nobody seems to care. Manning said "let's just say we had protection problems tonight" and he was applauded for it.

In that moment, no. It was a calculated play thus entire offseason to bloster his image and position.

It wasn't a generalization. It was describing his action in that moment.

Well, Rodgers is a complete, gaping A-hole. So there's that. Don't know that I'd hold him up as an example. Nor do I think he's been praised for the nonsense he's pulled over the last few years in an attempt to always shine the spotlight on himself.

I remember Manning calling out his line once. But the difference with Manning is that if he was getting sacked, it was either because the coverage was perfect or there was a failure on the line. Manning was one of the best in the history of the game at distributing the ball and xs and os. He helped his line considerably in getting the ball out and making sure he was where he was supposed to be in the pocket. As a qb or a leader of anything, I don't think you ever start pointing the finger anywhere but yourself FIRST, when your work effects the performance of those people you are criticizing.

 

[keasley45]

Russ has been campaigning for Russ for almost two years now. The MVP talk last year and 'Cooking' campaign was about him. It wasn't about the offense or the defense perse, as much as it was him finally being able to showcase what he sees himself as being capable of doing. Case in point, this season after the Titans loss, he didn't think twice about divorcing offense from defense when asked whether he could have played a more balanced game and moved the chains instead of going for the big play. 'We scored x points', he said - paraphrasing. You don't give that answer to a basic and relevant question unless your mind is on what you're doing vs 'the other guys'. It speaks to his vision of himself as leader of Russ and his Wrs over Russ , the leader of the Seahawks.

 

[keasley45]

Which is exactly what he would need to do to maximize his value to potential trade partners, given the questions around his performance over 20' and 21'.

 

[toffee]

Real or not, we know two things for sure;

1. Russ and his agent not denying it.
2. We will see a more motivated Russ in remaining games, $$ of his next contract on the line.

I predict we shall win out the next games, Russ and his agent would like to go on the market as an all pro or at least pro bowler.

I also predict Pete will again express his close friendship with Russ, lol,

Go Hawks

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[SoulfishHawk]

This didn't age well. He literally just came out and said he want to play here for 20 years.
If you're gonna' believe all the other "reports" then you should consider the actual source.

I don't know if he's gonna' stay or not, none of us do. I hope he does, but I did like hearing that today.

 

[LTH]

I also don't think it's a coincidence that a report comes out recently that Jody is involved and not happy about problems that go back beyond this year, and then on the heels of that, Russ talk about who he'd wave his trade clause for.

I think this is a very interesting point. Along with Aros assertion about Jake heaps calling BS.


Some times the media just blows things up for a story. no source No credibility in my mind. even though it may be true.

I'm not saying that Russ wants to be in Seattle or there isn't any issue. River Dog brings up a good point about "People tend to line up behind the story or source that most closely fits their pre-determined narrative"


The truth is, we don't know what's going on. This is like a long term trend of not knowing what's actually happening. It's VERY difficult to find out the truth of what's going on in an organization and this particular Report is WHY Carroll doesn't give the media any thing that can be misconstrued or exaggerated.

Think it out.

I make the assertion that Russ is thinking bout winning the SB.. some think this is ridiculous. Ok.. but think about it. Russ IS an optimist, and there is no quit in this man's DNA and if he has not proved that to this board in the 9 years he has been playing QB for the Hawks then I do not know what to say...I have never seen Russ give up in a game no matter what the score no matter how much time left on the clock in 9 years. I have NEVER heard Russ talk say ANYTHING in his PC that indicates in any way that he has given up with games remaining on the schedule when there is still a chance, in 9 years.

enter River Dogs statement. "People tend to line up behind the story or source that most closely fits their pre-determined narrative" This is absolutely true.

What does Russ have to gain by leaking teams he would waive his no trade clause for at this point in the season? NOTHING the off season is very long. Russ has the attention of the media ANYTIME he wants it. the only thing that this story does is serve as a DISTRACTION.

Why would Russ want to cause a distraction at this point in the season?

Enter Sgt Largent's statement. "All Russell's thinking about now is continuing to get healthy and play better and better so he can maximize his leverage come January or February."

If he truly wanted out of Seattle this is the best thing he could do.

So the question is, who benefits most from a distraction?

The media...

It may very well be true Russ wants out. we don't know for sure.
Fans are going to align with how they see it as river dog pointed out.
Russ is going to get the deal he wants sooner or later.
Jody Allan isn't going to make a major move, IF she is EVEN going to make one until the off season.

None of these reports make any since logically..


That being said maybe I'm wrong we don't know but to me none of it makes ANY since for these people to be leaking to the media...


LTH

 

[chris98251]

This didn't age well. He literally just came out and said he want to play here for 20 years.
If you're gonna' believe all the other "reports" then you should consider the actual source.

I don't know if he's gonna' stay or not, none of us do. I hope he does, but I did like hearing that today.

Yeah Arod said something similar before he signed with the Rangers.....

 

[John63]

He denies saying it a tall and makes it clear he is not going anyplace. So now we have an unnamed source versus the player himself, the HC and team, and one of the player's best friends.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live...&notif_id=1639081768934736&notif_t=live_video

 

[chris98251]

He denies saying it a tall and makes it clear he is not going anyplace. So now we have an unnamed source versus the player himself, the HC and team, and one of the player's best friends.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live...&notif_id=1639081768934736&notif_t=live_video

Do you not understand damage control, he has to finish playing here this year still, he also has to have the support of his team still.

If it is true we will know after the season, if it's not then we will know after the season. I have no doubt inquires are being made however, John denied Chicago calling last year until it came out oh well they did call I just didn't take them seriously.

 

[Jville]

Is this thread a testament as to how little interest there is in the current season and team?

 

[John63]

He denies saying it a tall and makes it clear he is not going anyplace. So now we have an unnamed source versus the player himself, the HC and team, and one of the player's best friends.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live...&notif_id=1639081768934736&notif_t=live_video

Do you not understand damage control, he has to finish playing here this year still, he also has to have the support of his team still.

If it is true we will know after the season, if it's not then we will know after the season. I have no doubt inquires are being made however, John denied Chicago calling last year until it came out oh well they did call I just didn't take them seriously.

Do you not understand you can't prove it is anything other than the truth? Why do you feel the need to always assume the worst? I feel sorry for you if that is how you go about your life, always looking for and at the worst of people and things. I am sorry for you.

 

[keasley45]

I'm certain he wants out and to be on a team where the offense is about showcasing him. That's not hate on my part, it's just reading tye tealeaves.

1. Grabbing the MVP narrative last year and really playing up that he wants to win it.

2. Living off of the 'let russ cook campaign'..

3. Sulking about the offense being pulled back (despite closing the last half of the year on a single loss... and one that he played extremely poorly in).

4. Jumping on the ' we need to be better up front ' and 'I'm tired of getting hit' and... 'we need to be more explosive' , narratives on the heals of a wildcard exit in which again, he had one of the worst games of the year... and before any talk to the contrary could start about HIS deficiencies.

5. This year - starting off where last year started - boom or bust offense that boomed in spurts but was ultimately a bust ... main difference here is now he has HIS OC. The guy he praised in the offseason and applauded for the things we were showing in the preseason...which then all disappeared when Russ went under center... but then reappeared when Geno was at QB..

6. Rushing back from injury.

And

7. Then, for no other explanation than that he wanted to go toe to to with Rodgers in primetime, and obviously to the annoyance of his HC, proceeds to throw 40 plus times against 11 runs - there was nothing 'winning' about that formula.

8. Struggling to play the xs and os game and quick read and react way that Shane requires.

9. Now being forced as part of the playbook to use the middle 3rd of the field to run Waldrons scheme . ( Russ has been perennially in the bottom 3 in the league in passing tonthe short intermediate, middle of the field, going back to 2015 or longer. - Waldrons scheme (he was brought in by Pete) requires passing to this area.

Nothing about the above smells to me like a guy who wants to stay in Seattle. It feels to me like a line has been drawn and the path forward is very clearly that seattle will be a run first, defensive team that passes efficiently. And that the o-line will not be built for max pass pro, but for bulldozing running lanes. And as such, the qb will need to work within a scheme that is designed to confuse defenses and get the ball out quickly... and be able to do so utilizing the whole field.

That IS NOT Russ's game. He could survive when he was mobile and able to extend his read time by escaping the pocket. He isn't that anymore. So if the feet aren't as fast, then the brain needs to be faster. And if that's not going to happen, he needs to be in a place where he has more time to throw.

Russ wants out. And the way this is rolling makes me belive that the hoopla drummed up by him last year was maybe as a result of Schotty saying he wasn't going to take the fall for the passing offenses failure and that Russ needed to step up. HoF RW3 cannot be seen as the guy who can't make this 'run-first', quick read and release offense go, so he has to create a narrative that isn't wrong- HE needs more time to throw. But lacks integrity in how it require laying blame at thise around him.

The identity of this team is, and still should be run first, pass efficient, and clobber the crap out of you on defense. It doesn't have to be nail biting contest after nail biting contest because our offense is stale. Our offense was stale for a few reasons, including #3 when he wasn't running around and freelancing.

We just need to get back to that and if Russ can't or won't, then best of luck in all sincerity.

I for one am looking forward to our next chapter, if I fact this one is over... as it seems to be.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Let's just get a win on Sunday.

 

[Jville]

Yea ........... what about this team and this weekend ................

[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/1469044966882111490[/tweet]

 

[keasley45]

He denies saying it a tall and makes it clear he is not going anyplace. So now we have an unnamed source versus the player himself, the HC and team, and one of the player's best friends.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live...&notif_id=1639081768934736&notif_t=live_video

Do you not understand damage control, he has to finish playing here this year still, he also has to have the support of his team still.

If it is true we will know after the season, if it's not then we will know after the season. I have no doubt inquires are being made however, John denied Chicago calling last year until it came out oh well they did call I just didn't take them seriously.

Do you not understand you can't prove it is anything other than the truth? Why do you feel the need to always assume the worst? I feel sorry for you if that is how you go about your life, always looking for and at the worst of people and things. I am sorry for you.

This from the guy who has little evidence to validate any of the assertions and conspiracies he has that PC is behind almost every error that the Hawks have made since he's been here, and is single handedly responsible for ruining RW and the offense.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Russ is concentrating on Sunday. If people don't see how focused he is by now, they never will.
I have no doubt he has been very frustrated. But if anyone thinks he's not putting all his focus on Sunday, they haven't been paying attention. We need him to play like he did on Sunday, the rest of the season for this team to have a chance at finishing strong.
The entire team has been a mess this year. Not just Pete, not just Russ, pretty much all of it. When your Punter is the team MVP that's saying a lot. Russ isn't w/out fault, just like everything isn't on Pete. I would love for them to move on from Pete. But not everything is Pete's fault, obviously. Pete wasn't the one with butterfingers on Sunday handing 3 fluke turnovers to Santa Clara.

 

[LTH]

He denies saying it a tall and makes it clear he is not going anyplace. So now we have an unnamed source versus the player himself, the HC and team, and one of the player's best friends.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live...&notif_id=1639081768934736&notif_t=live_video

Do you not understand damage control, he has to finish playing here this year still, he also has to have the support of his team still.

If it is true we will know after the season, if it's not then we will know after the season. I have no doubt inquires are being made however, John denied Chicago calling last year until it came out oh well they did call I just didn't take them seriously.

Do you not understand you can't prove it is anything other than the truth? Why do you feel the need to always assume the worst? I feel sorry for you if that is how you go about your life, always looking for and at the worst of people and things. I am sorry for you.

This from the guy who has little evidence to validate any of the assertions and conspiracies he has that PC is behind almost every error that the Hawks have made since he's been here, and is single handedly responsible for ruining RW and the offense.

decent point john63 maybe you should reevaluate your position on Carroll LOL


lth

 

[John63]

Do you not understand damage control, he has to finish playing here this year still, he also has to have the support of his team still.

If it is true we will know after the season, if it's not then we will know after the season. I have no doubt inquires are being made however, John denied Chicago calling last year until it came out oh well they did call I just didn't take them seriously.

Do you not understand you can't prove it is anything other than the truth? Why do you feel the need to always assume the worst? I feel sorry for you if that is how you go about your life, always looking for and at the worst of people and things. I am sorry for you.

This from the guy who has little evidence to validate any of the assertions and conspiracies he has that PC is behind almost every error that the Hawks have made since he's been here, and is single handedly responsible for ruining RW and the offense.

decent point john63 maybe you should reevaluate your position on Carroll LOL


lth

I have to a point, hence why I gave him credit for his movement on the offense.