KJ Wright illegal bat

[Our Man in Chicago]

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[Smellyman]

Part of me wonders if the official knew the rule but refrained from calling it out of pure bullshit factor. It's a bad rule and it should never be allowed to decide a game.

Yes, because it is judgement call. No impact on the play don't call it. Like they do on so many other calls.

They don't make a big deal of missed holds, missed pick plays, lineman downfield, blocking downfield, PI, etc. etc.

but this call is such an egregious call! strike up the twitter and espn outrage over this call!

 

[kearly]

That one I posted didn't tell the whole story. Second part of the rule is it can't be batted in any direction while in the endzone.

Not buyin' it. You see that happen all the time in the NFL and nobody's said a thing until now.

I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL ammends the rule this offseason to avoid future controversy. Had the ref called the penalty and Detroit won because of it, the play would be drawing comparisons to the tuck rule.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

if they called everything by the rules, every play by the Patriots, Packers and Broncos would be a pick play or blocking down field. They never do. Not calling those down in and down out is way more egregious than one call that wouldn't have impacted the game.

again.

technically illegel

spirit of the rul. nope

You see blocking in the back all the time and all NFL players know that blockers hold on every play--there's all kinds of infractions on every play. It wouldn't have mattered anyway if he'd left it alone it would've just gone out of the end zone. This rule is so obscure the ref looking right at him when he did it didn't know to call it.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I'm sorry but this is a stupid rule to begin with. Why should the fumbling team get the ball back at the 1 foot line? If anything, the foul should occur on the touchback itself.. so IMO it should have been our ball at the 10 if anything.

So I'm happy the ref swallowed his whistle because it would have been a travesty to lose the game on such a crap rule.

Dilfer said on SC something that made a lot of sense (shocking enough in its own right that it came from Dilfer) .. but he basically said that refs see fouls like holding on every play and let it go most of the time because it has no impact on the play. Very similar to this play. Lets say KJ grabs the ball and runs out of bounds.. its the same damn call, even if he didn't have both feet in it would have been a touchback, so what the hell is the big deal?

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[seahawksny]

So could having Bevell as an OC...

Was he the one Wiffing on every block ? The Bevell narrative needs to stop.

No it doesn't need to stop. This is a forum for all ideas even if you don't agree with them.
Has anyone told you Bevell fans to stop voicing your opinion?

I agree with you but maybe bevell bashing belongs in bevell threads.

 

[Maulbert]

I like what Calvin Johnson said about it after the game. He was exactly right:

"It's unfortunate," he added, shrugging his shoulders. "But you can't put the game in the referee's hands."

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sp...-batted-ball-double-punch-lions-gut/73431432/

 

[RedAlice]

Even though with 1:30 left and 3 timeouts we get the ball back if they scored, this wont be talked about.

People will act like this was the final play of the game. Another season hearing every other fan cry about our "luck".

Very true!

Close win.

I have no issue with your "luck." But, if this exact same circumstance had happend and Rams were you and you were the Lions, this board would be complaining like crazy.

 

[HawkFreak]

The ball was going out without the bat by KJ, and he could have recovered it and would have if he knew the rule. It had no impact on the game in that it didn't put the Lions at a disadvantage. Also, the ref would have to make the subjective ruling that KJ was intentionally trying to bat the ball.

I've watched the NFL a long time and I've never seen a flag for that.

On to Cincinnati...

This was going out of bounds anyway. There was no chance for a Lions player to recover it. On a ball thrown to a receiver deemed (by a judgment call) uncatchable...a flag is not thrown because there is no chance for a play on the ball. Why isn't this a similar situation/issue?

 

[Scottemojo]

Dez gets a pass taken away last year, media heads bitch about enforcement of stupid rule.
Hawks win on a batted ball, media heads bitch about non enforcement of stupid rule.

 

[Largent80]

 

[SEAHAWG]

Could have cost us the game

So could have RW.

So could the line FTFY, seriously you can't expect Russ to constantly be running around and never get caught might as well have had traffic cones most of the night.

Plus, was he really the one speaking there?

I''m wondering if he was even able to stand on his own, I think it was that old man muppet, and it was all lip sync!

 

[Skookum]

I like how this thread has been around since yesterday evening, and has 4 pages already.

Either way, that game was a terrible mess. I can't believe that the Seahawks pulled it off. Pure luck. Makes me worried for the games to come...

As for the bat, I think it's interesting that after the game the folks on ESPN were dumbfounded that it was against the rules. I suppose that there's no reason in getting too upset about it now - it came out in our favor. But still, we got lucky. Very lucky.

 

[YYZHawksFan]

Somethings go your way...whether that is batting it out of the endzone or video taping your opponents for years. You get away with somethings sometimes. I'd say the Seahawks have gotten a little closer to having been on the short end of this stick balanced out.

Don't take the hate from other fans personally.

 

[HawkFreak]

Dean is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He is saying that it's a JUDGEMENT call, but he would have made a different judgement....but he's saying it in such a way to make it sound like the official made the wrong call.

That really ticks me off because it's just feeding the fire and that's the last thing anyone should want.

Exactly. Guess what Dean? Your off-field, after-the-fact "judgment" of the in game official's judgment call doesn't matter.

 

[YYZHawksFan]

I like how this thread has been around since yesterday evening, and has 4 pages already.

Either way, that game was a terrible mess. I can't believe that the Seahawks pulled it off. Pure luck. Makes me worried for the games to come...

As for the bat, I think it's interesting that after the game the folks on ESPN were dumbfounded that it was against the rules. I suppose that there's no reason in getting too upset about it now - it came out in our favor. But still, we got lucky. Very lucky.

yes. just like they got lucky eeking out a win against tampa in 2013. luck is one of those words that frankly, is irrelevant.

 

[chevelle03]

I can't believe that people in the media are actually talking about this as if Detroit actually deserved to win this game because of THAT no call. Did they not see Kam make a a great play? Did they not see that no Lion had a chance In hell to recover that fumble? The Lions lost this game, pure and simple. If they won because they got a second chance due to a batted ball penalty, that would have been just dumb luck and a travesty.

 

[TwilightError]

I dont even understand why it should ba a touchback and a turnover if the fumbled ball slips through the endzone, let alone do I understand why it should not be a touchback and a turnover if the fumbled ball happens to be batted... It is what it is and a win is a win! For all I care.

 

[CodeWarrior]

Am I the only one that LOVED the illegal bat non-call? The rule is ticky tack to begin with in that circumstance, but the mystique, the intimidation it works to bolster is priceless! CenturyLink is a house of horrors for opposing teams! It's cursed, cursed I tell you! You can't win here. You either get blown out, or the refs screw you. Damn I love that narrative. Anyone else?

Fun to witness.