TwistedHusky":1ufxzbyl said:
We gave him that. He had lots of rope. He just used every bit of it over time.
Trust me.
For years, it was clear he was leading us back to the fog of mediocre records.
(And do not forget the YEARS of terrible, godawful football we suffered before last year. Where for half a season we seemingly refused BY DESIGN to even attempt to score TDs in the 1st half. Even when we won, it was godawful, boring football permeated by the occasional moonshot. And the defense was bend, bend, bend, and hope for the other team to mess up.
I used to intentionally only watch the 2nd halves of games for years, sometimes only showing up to the stadium in the 2nd half - because I knew the 1st half was a weird pattycake game of field position with occasional FGs.)
He deserves credit for being a big part of building the Seahawks into winners. And then for years he coasted, made bad decisions, and squandered talent.
It was OK though because he brought this team a SB. But how many years do you make excuses for a guy that literally should not be in the chair?
Do you honestly believe he can turn this team around? Do you believe he even has enough time to rebuild?
Do you think he can even coach in the new NFL with his old ideas, and be competitive?
Pete was great when he had a great concept, built around it, found the players that fit it - and then took the NFL by surprise. But he only has that one idea, and everyone figured it out. He is Buddy Ryan after the 46 defense stopped working (Except Buddy was a better defensive mind) - but still trying to use his version of the 46 defense. And it will not work.
But he will not stop. Ever. Until he is kicked out of the HC office by whatever means. And every year he stays longer, the more his ridiculous trades and FO decisions hamstring us for the future.
First of all I don't see things the way you do...so that in its self is a difference of perception. I don't see the last several years as being a bad thing... I see it as being competitive in a league that the weak die in... and so for Carroll to have the record he has in my mind is an amazing accomplishment that very few coaches will have the luxury to enjoy...
do I think he can turn this ship around? I do think at some point in the season things will turn for the Hawks It's very difficult to understand what's really going on being that I do NOT feel like Carroll nor the players actually give true representation of what's actually happening... I think we get snippets of information and bland answers to a media that is prone to blow things out of proportion... so that is a huge factor...
I tend to think that Carroll will work out of it... I think that this year they have taken on a new O with a first time OC and they Have lost their starting RB as well lost Russ for several game. The O line has not had a chance to gel due to shuffling players around due to injury as well there has been issues with Russ adapting to the new O.
I think all these factors are the reason why this team is where they are. Reasonably I can't say that the coaching has been poor and the reason for the collapse. I also can't say that it's not the reason because I don't feel we have all of the information. all I have is what I read and my perception. both are subjective.
but I do know that Carroll is a Good man and has done a great deal in Seattle and I think regardless of how much his football team wins in the future I think he deserves respect for his accomplishments and what he has given to Seattle ... i have no problem with people having their own opinion but it irritates the hell out of me when I see Carroll dis respected because I don't think he is a piece of trash and I don't think he should be treated as such even if he does have a losing season...I don't see how ANY reasonable person could not have that view...
But that's just my opinion and I'm damn sure going to state it... and one more thing there is NOTHING wrong with having football hero's... My kids have hero's and I have hero's I'm not a shamed of that...
LTH