Just curious

[seahawk12thman]

I am fully aware of the stupidity not to run the ball with Lynch so that is irrelevant to this thread....but was there pass interference on the Patriots DB on the last play. I can't tell if he knocked Lockette to the ground before the ball arrived?

Just curious from a miserable fan

 

[volsunghawk]

Butler was going for the ball. He had as much right to it as Lockette did.

 

[bigtrain21]

Nope. He may have got there slightly early but he was making a play on the ball and they both have a right to make a play on the ball.

 

[pehawk]

All I saw was the word "curious" and was quick and eager to reply.

How disappointing...

 

[Hyak]

If there was any penalty, it was on Browner as it looked like he may have grabbed Kearse's jersey. That said, refs are going to swallow the whistle in those type of situations unless it's so obvious you have to call it.

 

[TAB420]

Making a play for the ball doesn't erase the penalty if there's contact.

 

[Chawks1]

No penalty. The DB has just as much right to the ball as the WR. Very good effort by Butler. A lower throw by Wilson or stronger effort by Lockette and I'm going to a parade tomorrow.

 

[TAB420]

He has as much right, but still can't interfere with the rec making the catch.

 

[BlueBlood]

With a bang bang play at that point of the superb owl they arent calling anything.

 

[volsunghawk]

He has as much right, but still can't interfere with the rec making the catch.

If the defender is trying to catch the ball and contacts the receiver in the process, that's not a penalty.

 

[jammerhawk]

Given the force of the collision between Butler and Lockette I doubt it is fair to blame locket much on the play. It was an outstanding defensive play, russell might have lead Lockette less but that is nitpicking. Still think it was deangerous play in the situation and perhaps another play would have a been a better less high risk situation but that is retrospective thinking.

 

[seahawk12thman]

Making a play for the ball doesn't erase the penalty if there's contact.

That was my thought and even if it was I don't blame the officials for keeping the flag in their pocket but it does absolve Lockette for being blamed. He was blasted and any man would have fallen in that situation. Lockette is a big dude and the two of them colliding would have not sent him to the ground without Lockette even getting his hands up unless he hit him with the shoulder. I was wondering if the shoulder hit Lockette before Butler made the catch, otherwise they both would have collided and Lockette would not have been sent backwards being incidental contact. That idiot Bevell should have watched the tape before he threw Lockette under the bus.

What does this mean?

It means Bevell was unequivocally responsible for calling that slant pass and took the cowardly route. I am 100% confident that Russell Wilson didn't call an audible.

 

[kjreid]

Okay, at the start of the play, it looks like Kearse is lined up inside while Lockette is about 2-3 yds outside him. Browner is lined up just inside of Kearse and Butler is a yard back and looks like he is inside of browner. If that was seen my Wilson a back shoulder throw would have been perfect bringing Lockette to the outside. as slow as Lockette went into the slant it almost looked like he didn't want to go in but to catch the pass prior to him leaving....does that make sense?

 

[TAB420]

Slight contact is a loud, we studied this kind of play in a class I'm taking for reffing. This is a judgment call, one you wont get in the SB. You can get away with slight contact(the book say's, slight contact) if making a play on the ball.

 

[brimsalabim]

If there was any penalty, it was on Browner as it looked like he may have grabbed Kearse's jersey. That said, refs are going to swallow the whistle in those type of situations unless it's so obvious you have to call it.

I agree with you.

 

[TAB420]

If there was any penalty, it was on Browner as it looked like he may have grabbed Kearse's jersey. That said, refs are going to swallow the whistle in those type of situations unless it's so obvious you have to call it.

I agree with you.

Exactly.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

If there was any penalty, it was on Browner as it looked like he may have grabbed Kearse's jersey. That said, refs are going to swallow the whistle in those type of situations unless it's so obvious you have to call it.

I agree with you.

Refs aren't gonna call that, no way no how.

Nor do we or the players want them to, no one wants controversial penalties at the end of games of this magnitude. Kearse got manhandled.......just like he got manhandled all day long by Browner and didn't chip the DB enough.

Once again, reason #249 as to why you don't call this play. Bad matchup for Kearse to do his job, bad receiver to trust to run the route precisely, and too risky.

 

[seahawk12thman]

Wilson saw the matchup with Browner and should have audibled to the run right there. He had to know that Kearse wasn't going to move Browner?? So many wrongs there...

 

[TAB420]

The more I watch the last play, the more it looks like Butler coming from behind, pushes Locket's arm up, causing the ball to go between locket's hands. It's really close, just before the ball gets there. If his arm doesn't get push up, the ball at least bounces off his hand.

 

[marko358]

There's no way that should have been called for a penalty. Bang-bang play and a good no call. How many times have we seen the LOB doing the exact same thing.