Issue of Concern for Cardinals

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One thing I know Seahawks fans may not have been aware of was our Punting situation when Zastudil went down last year to be replaced by Butler.

He ranked 31st in punts last year getting 36.8 yds a punt.

He will again be our punter this year. This is one thing I just can't believe wasn't addressed this offseason. In the playoff game against Carolina he had two punts that didn't even make it 30 yds. When we played Seattle the same thing. The short punts just kill us. Looks like they will again this year.


Defensive pressure. The loss of Dan Williams at NT was huge. We brought in Peters who looked up to par and then proceeded to tear his achilles. The issue is we just can't generate a pass rush. Losing Daryl Washington hurts because he should be filling that role. But he's not, and I've given up hope on him this year. We can send 6 people and not even put the QB on pressure while leaving our CB's on an island trying to stick with a WR in space for 4 seconds. Just not going to happen. There will and have been breakdowns in coverage because of that. If we could generate pressure, the CB's wouldn't be asked to do as much as they have been the last two years.

The OL, I'm not sure if it is a concern or not but will be for the first 3 weeks. With Massie suspended the first 3 weeks and Iupati recovering from surgery were already down 40% of our starting O-line. I am surprised Sowell who is filling in at RT isn't cut yet. He has no technique and just gets blown by and even literally turned around in circles like a spinning wheel on some plays. Just tossed to the side like a limp rag doll. Massie will be a huge upgrade over him when he gets back. Iupati will be missed.

Something I would like to point out as well. A lot of people say that the DVOA with and without Palmer are the same. However it is clear that PFF is not the end all. Here are some facts to dispute that. Which are actual outcomes in games.

Palmer was 6-0 last year. With a 95.6 passer rating. Good for 8th in the NFL. 25.8 PPG with him in. Now people say that without Palmer we had the same DVOA... Lets take a look at our other two QBs PPG which is really what matters. Why doesnt DVOA take this into account?

Drew Stanton was up next with a 78.7 rating. Good for 28th in the NFL, and 16.5 PPG... Those offenses look much different than what PFF suggests. Again, this is why I think PFF is a good tool, but you can't base everything off it. Drew Stanton was followed by Ryan Lindley.


Ryan Lindley finished with a passer rating of 56.8. Good for last in the NFL. We only got 11.5 PPG game with Lindley. Again how does DVOA in PFF say these last two are equal to the above?
 

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Poor Palmer, he needs to wear knee braces if he's going to survive the season. Either that, or Arians better go to some short passes, which he won't do.
 

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How does a punter who can't punt even get into the NFL? At least shitty kickers like Garret Hartley and Randy Bullock must have flashed in college (and they say Bullock is fixed, but his 2013 was comical).
 

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DVOA is from Football Outsiders, not PFF. The Cardinal's DVOA dropped a bit after Palmer went down. It was right around 0 when Palmer was playing and finished at -6.4%.

It's rare to have a good running game with a bad OL. Getting the run game going should be the #1 goal of the Cardinals this season.

The #1 concern, other than Palmer staying healthy, is beating the Seahawks head to head. Russell Wilson is 4-2 against Arizona and it's very close to 6-0. At some point the Cardinals need to start investing in players that can exploit the few soft spots in Seattle's armor.
 

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If I was you ringless I would trade PP for a DL / Ol stud. Save some Dough and get a player that isnt all talent + hype.
 

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Fortunately for you guys is it doesn't take much to get pressure on the Wilson or Foles. It's a big problem for both teams and has shown up consistently throughout Preseason.
 

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SuperMan28":nlfh28m5 said:
Fortunately for you guys is it doesn't take much to get pressure on the Wilson or Foles. It's a big problem for both teams and has shown up consistently throughout Preseason.

Yeah but unlike Foles, Wilson can actually outrun a 290lb lineman.
 
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Laloosh":w2039f76 said:
SuperMan28":w2039f76 said:
Fortunately for you guys is it doesn't take much to get pressure on the Wilson or Foles. It's a big problem for both teams and has shown up consistently throughout Preseason.

Yeah but unlike Foles, Wilson can actually outrun a 290lb lineman.


That's why Daryl Washington not being reinstated kills us. Washington could keep Wilson in check which is a big reason we won in Seattle that year, and the loss of him last year really put that on display
 

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ringless":3iwmz2v9 said:
Laloosh":3iwmz2v9 said:
SuperMan28":3iwmz2v9 said:
Fortunately for you guys is it doesn't take much to get pressure on the Wilson or Foles. It's a big problem for both teams and has shown up consistently throughout Preseason.

Yeah but unlike Foles, Wilson can actually outrun a 290lb lineman.


That's why Daryl Washington not being reinstated kills us. Washington could keep Wilson in check which is a big reason we won in Seattle that year, and the loss of him last year really put that on display

I was at that game. I honestly don't like to use the old "it's not you, it's me" excuse but sometimes this SEA team just has a bad day. We lose close games on bad days. We kick asses on good days. That, was a bad day.
 

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Laloosh":3jrfudwh said:
ringless":3jrfudwh said:
Laloosh":3jrfudwh said:
SuperMan28":3jrfudwh said:
Fortunately for you guys is it doesn't take much to get pressure on the Wilson or Foles. It's a big problem for both teams and has shown up consistently throughout Preseason.

Yeah but unlike Foles, Wilson can actually outrun a 290lb lineman.


That's why Daryl Washington not being reinstated kills us. Washington could keep Wilson in check which is a big reason we won in Seattle that year, and the loss of him last year really put that on display

I was at that game. I honestly don't like to use the old "it's not you, it's me" excuse but sometimes this SEA team just has a bad day. We lose close games on bad days. We kick asses on good days. That, was a bad day.

Quite accurate. We're 8-6 in one score games over the last 2 seasons, and 17-1 in games decide by more than one score.
 

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kearly":sb3q2zts said:
DVOA is from Football Outsiders, not PFF. The Cardinal's DVOA dropped a bit after Palmer went down. It was right around 0 when Palmer was playing and finished at -6.4%.

It's rare to have a good running game with a bad OL. Getting the run game going should be the #1 goal of the Cardinals this season.

The #1 concern, other than Palmer staying healthy, is beating the Seahawks head to head. Russell Wilson is 4-2 against Arizona and it's very close to 6-0. At some point the Cardinals need to start investing in players that can exploit the few soft spots in Seattle's armor.

You say close to 6-0......and 4-2.

But outside of an anomaly last year with Palmer going down, probably should be closer to 3-3. The Seahawks caught the Cardinals and 49ers in bad spots last season with a sweep but prior to that, how many years has it been since they did that (to either team, let alone both)?

2007? 2008?

Nothing recent comes to mind. Sweeping the Rams has been hard enough for the Hawks.

The Cards winning in Century Link in 2013 was impressive. Monster defensive effort.

Outside of last year, the Cardinals have had more issues with the 49ers.
 

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NINEster":trdefkgq said:
kearly":trdefkgq said:
DVOA is from Football Outsiders, not PFF. The Cardinal's DVOA dropped a bit after Palmer went down. It was right around 0 when Palmer was playing and finished at -6.4%.

It's rare to have a good running game with a bad OL. Getting the run game going should be the #1 goal of the Cardinals this season.

The #1 concern, other than Palmer staying healthy, is beating the Seahawks head to head. Russell Wilson is 4-2 against Arizona and it's very close to 6-0. At some point the Cardinals need to start investing in players that can exploit the few soft spots in Seattle's armor.

You say close to 6-0......and 4-2.

But outside of an anomaly last year with Palmer going down, probably should be closer to 3-3. The Seahawks caught the Cardinals and 49ers in bad spots last season with a sweep but prior to that, how many years has it been since they did that (to either team, let alone both)?

2007? 2008?

Nothing recent comes to mind. Sweeping the Rams has been hard enough for the Hawks.

The Cards winning in Century Link in 2013 was impressive. Monster defensive effort.

Outside of last year, the Cardinals have had more issues with the 49ers.

I'd love to have you elaborate on that part.
 

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