Is Hasselbeck at the end of the road?

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Mathew has had a long run.

Is Hasselbeck at the end of the road? >>> [urltargetblank]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/23/is-hasselbeck-at-the-end-of-the-road/[/urltargetblank]
 

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Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
 

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Rex":39yc7k5o said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment
 

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Hawkfan77":27hh8ut5 said:
Rex":27hh8ut5 said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment

Busted. I didn't read the article. :34853_doh: OK I read it. My original comment stands. Why do you think it was odd?
 

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Hawkfan77":2mzz4b3m said:
Rex":2mzz4b3m said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment

Rex is a Rams fan, so not surprising he would have a different feeling about Matt as a former division rival. Just a back-handed compliment is how I take it.
 
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drdiags":2mwmvh5e said:
Hawkfan77":2mwmvh5e said:
Rex":2mwmvh5e said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment

Rex is a Rams fan, so not surprising he would have a different feeling about Matt as a former division rival. Just a back-handed compliment is how I take it.

Indeed, there could be some residual resentment at work with Rex's view of Hasselbeck. And that would certainly be understandable.

Afterall, Hasselbeck was the leader of a bunch of up starts that displaced the "Greatest Show on Turf" in the NFL West.

200px Matt Hasselbeck 28cropped29Matt Hasselbeck played as the Seahawks quarterback from 2001–2010 and led the team to six postseason appearances and a Super Bowl appearance.
 

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Jville":15r3ro5y said:
drdiags":15r3ro5y said:
Hawkfan77":15r3ro5y said:
Rex":15r3ro5y said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment

Rex is a Rams fan, so not surprising he would have a different feeling about Matt as a former division rival. Just a back-handed compliment is how I take it.

Indeed, there could be some residual resentment at work with Rex's view of Hasselbeck.

Afterall, Hasselbeck was the leader of a bunch of up starts that displaced the "Greatest Show on Earth" in the NFL West.

200px Matt Hasselbeck 28cropped29

No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.
 

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Well he is no Sam Bradford that's for sure! ;)

In all seriousness, there were times his play drove me nuts, other times he was very good.
All I know is he was/is a hell of a competitor and the the first QB to lead my team to a Super Bowl so I will always be grateful for that.
 

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Sports Hernia":2mal86s7 said:
Well he is no Sam Bradford that's for sure! ;)

In all seriousness, there were times his play drove me nuts, other times he was very good.
All I know is he was/is a hell of a competitor and the the first QB to lead my team to a Super Bowl so I will always be grateful for that.

He was durable and he was pro bowl material 3 times. He still brings value as a backup especially if the younger QBs are willing to listen.
 

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Rex":3hcrt6cz said:
Jville":3hcrt6cz said:
drdiags":3hcrt6cz said:
Rex":3hcrt6cz said:
Never thought much of him but won't begrudge him making bank on the bench as long as he can.
What an odd comment

Rex is a Rams fan, so not surprising he would have a different feeling about Matt as a former division rival. Just a back-handed compliment is how I take it.

Indeed, there could be some residual resentment at work with Rex's view of Hasselbeck.

Afterall, Hasselbeck was the leader of a bunch of up starts that displaced the "Greatest Show on Earth" in the NFL West.

200px Matt Hasselbeck 28cropped29

No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.[/quote]

That is the worst description of Matt Hasselbeck I have ever read or heard. It is nearly opposite of his actual strengths and weakness's. Matt was all about touch and timing. His weakness was arm strength not zipping the ball to hard. He was also not an excellent scrambling QB though he had decent pocket awareness and more than anything he was not durable. Tough sure. He played in a flack jacket with two broken ribs only missing one full game but durable he was not.

Maybe you are thinking of someone else?
 

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Matthew has had a great run. Was and still is one of my favorite 'Hawks. Dude took the game and his position seriously, but in front of the camera, had one of the best personalities, and a great sense of humor.
 

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Rex":15rjrsby said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

... And from 2005 on he was the QB of the Seahawks that made the Rams our bitch. I think it was 10 straight wins at one point.

We have dominated you since.

:les:
 

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Rex":1obke4pk said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle.

This had far more to do with Terreal Bierria sucking horribly as our starting safety that year. He gave up several game winning touchdowns including this travesty:
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From that same game, which will be one of the worst losses in team history. The Manumaleuna touchdown:
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I can not find photo evidence of it, but this is from USAToday on that day:
"On the next drive, after Seattle's offense stalled with a three-and-out, it took one play for the Rams to make it a three-point game. Bulger found Kevin Curtis, the fourth receiver in the four-wideout formation, streaking up the numbers on the left side, splitting Bierria and Ken Lucas for a 41-yard score."

It was the game that exposed Bierria for the no talent player that he was, and I was screaming in here for him to be cut. Ah, the good old days of .net.

In the second game as you will see in this highlight video, Bierria is the one who gives up both touchdowns as Curtis catches the ball over the middle between him and Orlando Huff and it is Bierria who is run over by Steven Jackson at the goalline:
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This game winning touchdown in the playoff game had a lot to do with Hamlin cheating over to Bierria's side to help him:
2005 01 08 cleeland

Rex":1obke4pk said:
I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

There are none who can.
 

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I love Hass, always will. But I think Holmgren was an idiot and should have stuck with Kitna.

EDIT: Can I call Holmgren an idiot or are we a kinder, gentler forum now? I know he's a Seahawk fan like the rest of us. How should I rephrase that so that I can still express my feelings of his idiotic decision making whilst calling it something other than idiotic?
 

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RichNhansom":1yof0e2h said:
Rex":1yof0e2h said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

That is the worst description of Matt Hasselbeck I have ever read or heard. It is nearly opposite of his actual strengths and weakness's. Matt was all about touch and timing. His weakness was arm strength not zipping the ball to hard. He was also not an excellent scrambling QB though he had decent pocket awareness and more than anything he was not durable. Tough sure. He played in a flack jacket with two broken ribs only missing one full game but durable he was not.

Maybe you are thinking of someone else?

No. It is my opinion developed after years of watching Warner and Bulger at QB.
 

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FlyingGreg":21m6jhwz said:
Rex":21m6jhwz said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

... And from 2005 on he was the QB of the Seahawks that made the Rams our bitch. I think it was 10 straight wins at one point.

We have dominated you since.

:les:

Rams front office imploded and then the years of ownership limbo and crap drafting gave the rest of the division their chance. Never fear those days are over. :th2thumbs:
 

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Rex":3uiip0bk said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

You've OBVIOUSLY never seen Hass play as a Seahawk. You couldn't come up with a better total opposite description of Hasselbeck if you tried.
 

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rideaducati":2vsdm0pi said:
Rex":2vsdm0pi said:
No not at all. I never thought he had what it takes to win. The Rams arguably had a lesser team in 2004 finishing 8-8 yet defeated the Seahawks 3 times that season including the playoff win in Seattle. Then the "We want the ball and we're gonna score" nonsense. I always thought he bailed out of the pocket too quick not going through all his progressions and too often when he did pass he lacked the appropriate touch for the pass. Usually too much zip when not warranted. Should know what your WRs are capable of doing rather than what they should. The difference between in practice and theory. While he was an excellent scrambling QB he didn't turn it into big play potential like RW. Although I remember him most for a phantom penalty called on him in the Super Bowl that I still can't understand.

You've OBVIOUSLY never seen Hass play as a Seahawk. You couldn't come up with a better total opposite description of Hasselbeck if you tried.

I remember him well, Vespa. Scrambling in slow circle after slow circle either throwing the ball away or just making the first down out of bounds. :177692:
 

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I hope he goes into announcing, especially for our Seahawks, he is good enough to land a big gig somewhere though, if Phil Simms can do it the Hass will be a star.
 
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