Is Browner a FA after this year?

[Jville]

I'm not aware of any grandfather clause in the new CBA. So I wouldn't think the new language would apply to history prior to the inception date of the new CBA. Seems to me that Brandon Browner is likely a third year player and will be a restricted free agent in 2014.

 

[Largent80]

It all depends on what he does this year. If he is trying for a payday, that may help the team this year.

In that case Go BB !!!!!!!

 

[cover-2]

Browner is one of my favorites as well as a tone setter

Here are a few of Browner tone setting plays, or maybe he is just beating dudes up because he can.

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I can't get enough of Browner ragdolling Greg Jennings
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For the record He didn't take a cheap shot from Browner. Once the QB has released the ball to the receiver, which he had then Jennings is a downfield blocker and better have his head on a swivel.

Did you know that Jennings realized what happened later and apologized to Browner for having a hissy fit? He realized Browner was entirely in the right. The fact Browner made him look like a junior high school player on that play must have stung.

I didn't say anything about him taking cheap shots. I'm guessing you think those are my own personal video clips, they are not. I pulled the highlights off of youtube. So, whoever uploaded the highlight of Browner hitting Jennings onto youtube, was probably a Packers fan which explains the cheap shot title on the video.

 

[Sac]

I'm not aware of any grandfather clause in the new CBA. So I wouldn't think the new language would apply to history prior to the inception date of the new CBA. Seems to me that Brandon Browner is likely a third year player and will be a restricted free agent in 2014.

It's a given, Browner is under the old agreement. If the new cba were retroactive you'd see a lot of first round guys like Okung making less money. But they're not, the get the contacts they signed.

 

[EastCoastHawksFan]

Browner won that game against the Panthers for us last year .
With the Strip fumble / recover on DeAngelo Wiliiams , and then on 3rd down at the 1 yard line he delivered a punishing tackle with seconds remaining. The next play Cam Newton got sacked and it was game over.

I believe he made Benson fumble with under a minute left inside the Packers 5 yard line ( somehow Jeff Saturday gets the recovery! wait who cares we won that game)

The dude is a Baller and a gamer . As much as I would love to see him retire a Seahawk ,I know he only gets one pay day being 29 years old and he should take it.

 

[themunn]

Brandon Browner is irreplaceable. He is a very good, heady player who may not "wow" you on the stat sheet, but he doesn't get burned much, and is probably the second most physical player on the defense. I don't think we'll see another corner with his physique for some time, and in that respect he is irreplaceable.

If you ask me Browner is the most physical player on the defense.
He's not going to win on a one-on-one battle with the D-Line of Kam, but he plays with a nastiness that the others don't - Kam will deliver a big hit a few times a game - Browner maybe a handful of times a season, but every play he is beating up on the receiver he is against, and that is far more irritating than taking a big hit once or twice.

The fact that Kam faces off against Tight Ends and Running Backs and the D-Line against the O-Line compared to Browner facing off against Wide Receivers typically much smaller than him is also a reason why proportionally Browner is the most physical match-up for the Offense to face

 

[Hawkstorian]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/ ... free-agent

Sando double-confirms the story. Good job "David from Anchorage" and others for getting a clear answer.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/99027/why-pro-bowl-cb-can-become-free-agent

Sando double-confirms the story. Good job "David from Anchorage" and others for getting a clear answer.

Definitely see why Simon was drafted now. Very likely Browner leaves for his payday and given his age I don't blame him.

 

[The Radish]

I didn't say anything about him taking cheap shots. I'm guessing you think those are my own personal video clips, they are not. I pulled the highlights off of youtube. So, whoever uploaded the highlight of Browner hitting Jennings onto youtube, was probably a Packers fan which explains the cheap shot title on the video.


Oh for Christ's sake your skin seems a bit thin to me.

It says on the clip that Browner took a cheap shot. Many of the talking heads said the same thing. I merely pointed out that after the receiver caught the ball Jennings became classified as a down field blocker and could be knocked ass over teakettles which happily is what happened.

He thought he had been cheap shot and went after Browner which is stupid since Browner is about a foot taller and way heavier.

After the play was over and even some of the commentators realized Browner had done what all defensive backs do every play, (defend their territory) they all realized they had screwed up.

No one mentioned you. Very sorry if you decided I was pointing you out. Please remember this is a sports board and you need to keep your head on a swivel.

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[LudwigsDrummer]

I just love watching BB play and he has gotten better over time. Our FO knows what his value is to the team and I hope they can work out a deal, but if they can't I hope he gets his big payday.
As a side thought, if the young`uns behind him can play can't we trade him before week 6 for a pick or a player? I only ask cuz business is business.

 

[kidhawk]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/99027/why-pro-bowl-cb-can-become-free-agent

Sando double-confirms the story. Good job "David from Anchorage" and others for getting a clear answer.

Definitely see why Simon was drafted now. Very likely Browner leaves for his payday and given his age I don't blame him.

Let's not forget that Even with the drafting of a DB, we still have plenty of time, we still have an entire season to negotiate with him and his agent and decide if what they are expecting is something we feel is worthy. It's not like this is the final days before free agency here.

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

I think BB stays on a 2 year 6 mm deal.

I really doubt he signs that cheap but if he would I would.

Brandon Browner is irreplaceable.

I think you have to be careful with those statements. Yeah we love the guy and his style of play but he's not the only guy in the league capable of beating up receivers. He cut down on the penalties last year but he also got away with a few.

He'll command more on the open market.

While I agree, he's not irreplaceable -- for this defense and our identity, he is really close to being irreplaceable in the Steve Hutchinson sense. I'm reminded of a quote from John Madden in the preseason of 2006, when talking about the Seahawk's outlook in 2006. At that time, he said, "Last year, they had the best OL in football and were able to count on that to win games. This year they don't. Jones is great, but they are no longer the best".

Losing Browner knocks us down several notches in quality -- but it also vacates the identity of being the most physical secondary in the league if he does go. He physically mauls receivers in a way that no other in this secondary can. Kam gets highlight hits no doubt. But on a play in, play out basis, he doesn't molest/frustrate receivers as Browner does. Similarly, Sherman is an excellent ball hawk and can play press coverage at an elite level. But he does not have the size/stature to abuse receivers like Brandon.

Saying Browner is a press cover corner is really doing a disservice to his unique brand of molestation. He really has learned how to flirt at the very edge of the envelope of legal/illegal. He is physical in a manner that literally no corner in this league can compare to.

If he goes, we'll have an alternative to replace him. But we will lose ownership of the most physical secondary in the league. That's a distinction that will go with Brandon. Simon is going to have to be something that thus far he isn't. He doesn't show a taste for the physicality that one would expect of his size. He plays incredibly soft. He's got a year or two of toughening up to do. In college, he showed little to no aptitude for playing press/man.

I could see Brandon being a vital resign for us. It fits with the culture we're trying to build. Take care of our own guys, and to demonstrate that where you come from or where you're drafted doesn't matter. If you pay the commitment price, the team will reward that. Brandon exemplifies this more than most.

 

[Basis4day]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/99027/why-pro-bowl-cb-can-become-free-agent

Sando double-confirms the story. Good job "David from Anchorage" and others for getting a clear answer.

Wow. He mentioned me. I guess i've peaked. :th2thumbs:

 

[Trenchbroom]

I just cannot see them making a long term commitment to our 2nd best corner after doing the same to our 2nd best safety. I trust this front office emphatically but no one would argue that Sherm and Thomas are the more important signings. To resign all four is a HUGE investment in our secondary--expensive!

Browner is going to walk IMO because he is older and deserves to get paid, big time. And if we make the highest offer I will be shocked.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Seems like one of those deals where Browner gets an offer, wants more, goes to the market, and comes back.

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

I just cannot see them making a long term commitment to our 2nd best corner after doing the same to our 2nd best safety. I trust this front office emphatically but no one would argue that Sherm and Thomas are the more important signings. To resign all four is a HUGE investment in our secondary--expensive!

Browner is going to walk IMO because he is older and deserves to get paid, big time. And if we make the highest offer I will be shocked.

What are you considering 'getting paid big time'? He is a solid #2 in a very specific scheme. I don't doubt there will be some interest, but don't think he will come anywhere close to "big time" money. If someone pays him big money to be a #1 CB, that team is in trubs.

 

[Basis4day]

Seems like one of those deals where Browner gets an offer, wants more, goes to the market, and comes back.

Like Red? Very possible. While i do think Browner benefits from our scheme, the large press corners are coming back into fashion. Gotta keep an eye on the Jags (Gus) and Cowboys (Monte Kiffin). Wouldn't shock me at all if they made a move for Browner in FA.

 

[Jville]

Well .... all right then .... I'm going to make a point of enjoying Browner's play this season .... just in case it turns out to be his last in Seattle. Figures to be his most motivated season yet with the Seahawks. Looking forward to the 2013 Browner show.

 

[McGruff]

I just cannot see them making a long term commitment to our 2nd best corner after doing the same to our 2nd best safety. I trust this front office emphatically but no one would argue that Sherm and Thomas are the more important signings. To resign all four is a HUGE investment in our secondary--expensive!

Browner is going to walk IMO because he is older and deserves to get paid, big time. And if we make the highest offer I will be shocked.

What are you considering 'getting paid big time'? He is a solid #2 in a very specific scheme. I don't doubt there will be some interest, but don't think he will come anywhere close to "big time" money. If someone pays him big money to be a #1 CB, that team is in trubs.

Average corners get big time contracts in free agency. Here's the top ten cornerback contracts last year . . .


1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Eagles – $11,000,000
2. Champ Bailey, Broncos – $8,000,000
3. Jonathan Joseph, Texans – 7,250,000
4. Corey Webster, Giants – $6,500,000
5. DeAngelo Hall, Redskins – $6,000,000
6. Brandon Flowers, Chiefs - $5,750,000
7. Cortland Finnegan, Rams - $5,000,000
8. Dunta Robinson, Falcons - $5,000,000
9. Darrelle Revis, Jets - $4,500,000
10. Joe Haden, Browns - $4,324,129

There's some good players there, but there's quite a few that fall below Browner in terms of talent and production.

 

[Largent80]

Browner is more than likely gone after this year so enjoy it.

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