Is Bevell to blame for much of this teams discontent?

[Siouxhawk]

I just don't get why anyone would blame Bevell for what was clearly the fault of execution of the play.

Because the play call was horrible. It was a designed play to use our worst player on the biggest stage. Why would somebody do that? Sadly I knew they were going to do something stupid, but I never dreamed it would be that bad.

More tall tales. Play call was the right one; execution was off by a nanosecond.

 

[Uncle Si]

I'd suggest the board is quite aware of both of your feelings on the matter

 

[RiverDog]

I just don't get why anyone would blame Bevell for what was clearly the fault of execution of the play.

Clearly the fault of the execution of the play? Obviously since it resulted in an interception, play execution bears a major part of the blame for the disastrous results of that play.

The play call was a lot less clear and as a result, much more controversial. I personally didn't mind passing rather than running on 2nd down, but would have rather seen a fade to the corner or something other than a bang-bang play across the middle of a very congested field, perhaps one that would have given Russell an option to put the ball in a spot that only our guy could catch. A lot of bad things could have happened with a slant pass, particularly a batted pass that results in a jump ball. I also wouldn't have minded a running play and if we didn't score, either force New England to call one of their TO's, preserving our own, or call our last one with seconds remaining, forcing one last play for all the marbles on 3rd down. I did not accept the excuse that we wanted to be able to utilize all 4 downs.

That's just one take from a stupid couch potato, but it demonstrates how controversial and potentially divisive it could be if it wasn't handled well. I called for Bevell's dismissal simply for that one reason, ie an ill advised play call.

 

[mistaowen]

I just don't get why anyone would blame Bevell for what was clearly the fault of execution of the play.

Because the special teams gunner shouldn't be the target of a risky throw at the goal line

 

[seabowl]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Lots of Monday Morning Quarterbacks. I'm sure Pete, his staff and pertinent players broke that game and play down 2 years ago, learned from it and retain it in spirit for motivation. Pete, Bev and Russ have said as much. Since then, we've played 36 games.
The hallmark of this organization is to handle what's in front of them and strive for a positive future. That's a winning attitude and why I admire Pete's vision so much.

 

[nash72]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

Their answer is that he likes it here.

 

[Siouxhawk]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

He's been in talks, both at the college and pro level. Bruce Ariens and Mike Zimmer are two off the top of my head that didn't take a head job until they were well into their 50's.

And I don't know why anyone would begrudge Bev for wanting to work and learn from a Pete as long as possible. You know it has to be fun.

 

[Siouxhawk]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

Their answer is that he likes it here.

And as I said before, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities to see Bev succeed Pete when he retires in 3 years or so. Perhaps he's in the grooming process.

 

[RiverDog]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

How do we know that he hasn't? There's a good possibility that he could have been approached and simply said that he's not interested.

 

[nash72]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

Their answer is that he likes it here.

And as I said before, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities to see Bev succeed Pete when he retires in 3 years or so. Perhaps he's in the grooming process.

There is no possible way Darrell Bevell will ever be the Seahawks head coach. Seattle would have a mutiny on their hands.

 

[nash72]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

How do we know that he hasn't? There's a good possibility that he could have been approached and simply said that he's not interested.

Because its public information when it happens and you never hear his name mentioned.

 

[RiverDog]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

How do we know that he hasn't? There's a good possibility that he could have been approached and simply said that he's not interested.

Because its public information when it happens and you never hear his name mentioned.

It's public information when he expresses interest and as a result, gets an interview. It's not necessarily public information if he tells them not to waste their time and hangs up the phone.

The way most head coaching candidates come to the surface is that NFL assistants, college head coaches, etc start sending out feelers to judge teams interest. GM's do the same thing, sending out feelers to possible candidates to judge their interest. If there's no interest from either party, then there's no need for a very public interview.

That probably explains why an otherwise very successful college coach like Urban Meyer hasn't had an interview with an NFL team, because he's told the 'feelers' that he's not interested in an NFL job.

I don't think anyone would argue that Urban Meyer isn't getting interviews because he's a crappy coach, so why would you suggest that Bevell is a crappy coach because he hasn't been getting HC offers?

 

[Siouxhawk]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

Their answer is that he likes it here.

And as I said before, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities to see Bev succeed Pete when he retires in 3 years or so. Perhaps he's in the grooming process.

There is no possible way Darrell Bevell will ever be the Seahawks head coach. Seattle would have a mutiny on their hands.

Where do you come up with all this drama jargon? Mutiny, really? You are certainly in your own little world.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Pete gave Bevell his endorsement when that time comes. Brett Favre gave his support to him last year.

 

[nash72]

The one question the pro Bevell folks have little to no answer for is.....

Why hasn't Bevell in the six years he has been here been offered another coaching opportunity, pro or even college?

We all know the answer.

How do we know that he hasn't? There's a good possibility that he could have been approached and simply said that he's not interested.

Because its public information when it happens and you never hear his name mentioned.

It's public information when he expresses interest and as a result, gets an interview. It's not necessarily public information if he tells them not to waste their time and hangs up the phone.

Ok, whatever you say.

 

[nash72]

And as I said before, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities to see Bev succeed Pete when he retires in 3 years or so. Perhaps he's in the grooming process.

There is no possible way Darrell Bevell will ever be the Seahawks head coach. Seattle would have a mutiny on their hands.

Where do you come up with all this drama jargon? Mutiny, really? You are certainly in your own little world.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Pete gave Bevell his endorsement when that time comes. Brett Favre gave his support to him last year.

No use in arguing over something thats not going to happen so I guess we'll wait and see.

 

[Seymour]

And as I said before, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities to see Bev succeed Pete when he retires in 3 years or so. Perhaps he's in the grooming process.

O.......M.......G. That would be the day! Hey Edward!! You got your work "cutout for you" here!

 

[RiverDog]

Ok, whatever you say.

It's not "whatever I say." I am no fan of Darrell Bevell, and like I said in another thread, had called for his head after SB 49. I am simply saying that you cannot use a perceived lack of interest from other teams for a possible head coaching position as evidence that the rest of the NFL feels that he's a crappy coach. There's plenty of other highly qualified, very successful college head coaches and long time NFL coordinators that for one reason or another, been seldom been mentioned as an NFL head coaching possibility.

I'm sure that someone would have hired Dick LeBeau as their HC had he expressed interest. Same with Monty Kiffen and Jim Johnson. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban haven't been getting too many public interviews, either. So why would it follow that because Bevell isn't getting HC interviews that it means that the other 31 NFL teams think he's crap?

 

[Hyak]

Bevell has interviewed for a handful of HC openings in the last few hiring cycles (Bills, Redskins, Bears) and IIRC also was denied permission to interview with BYU at the end of 2015.

I do think that teams that advance in the playoffs see their potential HC assistants get left out of the HC hiring cycle. Quinn and Shanahan are the noted exceptions.

Regardless, he's not the incompetent, horrible coach that some make him out to be even if he never goes beyond being an OC. Plenty of coordinators do not make good head coaches.

 

[randomation]

Being interviewed doesn't make him competent. Or are we going to argue Cable is competent because SF tossed him an interview. He has not been offered a job at college or pro level and this year when his QB wasn't able to improvise his O looked like trash even before this year we consistently bogged down in the redzone. This isn't even talking about the play which was a terrible call. A pass was the right call but a slant into the middle of a congested field against a former teammate who knows your tendencies was an awful call. It should have been bootleg out that Russ could either throw oob run or go to the corner to Matthews who was dominating their corners.