If you were re-drafting 2024, do you still take Murphy?

[Maelstrom787]

This is JUST FOR FUN, and answering someone other than Murphy does NOT mean you no longer believe in Murphy. Just a thought exercise. Put on your GM hat. If given the option to turn back time, do you still take Murphy or do you perhaps take another player?

I look forward to this creating some interesting discussion - hopefully football based without any shit-slinging or allegations of blasphemy.

Personally, I agreed with the choice of Murphy at the time and still think he's quite good, but I might take Verse, who was my second choice and has hit in a way I didn't expect. Hard decision, but I think I'd go Verse. It's close.

 

[toffee]

Before: Verse was on all my mocks before the draft.

After: I yielded to the wisdom of Schneider and Macdonald after the draft.

Now:
I felt like Most of 12s would be happy if we drafted Verse.

Murphy is a work horse, Verse a show horse. I am holding on to the faith that Murphy made people around him play better

 

[Smellyman]

Hawkblogger just had some stats out. Good run defender and on pass down situations he was 7th best DT in the league at pressure percentage. For some reason he didn't get much opportunity. Him playing more 3T will open him up more.

Verse is good and I am sure his pressure percentage is good, but he had 4.5 sacks. Let's see how he grows too

 

[Sperrydogg]

I cannot allow myself to go there… zen

 

[Hawkinaz]

Position need factored in with Murphy being drafted. #1 priority of a defense is stopping the run which wasn’t happening before Murphy

 

[Smellyman]

Position need factored in with Murphy being drafted. #1 priority of a defense is stopping the run which wasn’t happening before Murphy

also, when Murphy was out the run D and D as a whole was AWFUL. He was a dang good rookie

 

[seabowl]

“The next Aaron Donald”

- many on this board right after drafting him

 

[Hawkamaniac]

“He’s a bust. He didn’t have 10 sacks as a rookie.”

- many others on this board after the season

 

[rjdriver]

I loved the pick… Certainly a position of need. Still do as a matter of fact and it certainly wasn’t a reach (which drives me crazy).

I would have loved Verse at the same spot as well.

That said, Verse surprised me with how special he is right out of the gate. If you give me a DeLorean and hit 88 mph, I’m probably taking him over Murphy.

 

[Maulbert]

Leonard Williams just had far and away the best season of his career after a decade. Why do you think that happened?

 

[toffee]

Leonard Williams just had far and away the best season of his career after a decade. Why do you think that happened?

indeed, who needs Dexter Lawrence when big cat can play next to Murphy.

 

[Atradees]

I dont know. He fell. We got him its year 2. I was expecting more Aaron Donaldness. Maybe he fell for a reason. Steady but not spectacular. Looking forward to him with Tank in more even fronts. Aaron wasn't Aaron for a bit. I much prefer the 4-3. Two dynamic DE; two dts. Besides...we don't have a NT.

 

[Smellyman]

I dont know. He fell. We got him its year 2. I was expecting more Aaron Donaldness. Maybe he fell for a reason. Steady but not spectacular. Looking forward to him with Tank in more even fronts. Aaron wasn't Aaron for a bit. I much prefer the 4-3. Two dynamic DE; two dts. Besides...we don't have a NT.

don't get caught up in 3-4/4-3. Hall Williams Murphy Mafe is a freaking 4-3

 

[seabowl]

“He’s a bust. He didn’t have 10 sacks as a rookie.”

- many others on this board after the season

I get it but neither in college nor in the pros did or does he remind me anywhere near Aaron Donald. Not built like him, doesn’t move like him. The comparison made zero sense.

 

[Atradees]

don't get caught up in 3-4/4-3. Hall Williams Murphy Mafe is a freaking 4-3

And? Who is the nose tackle in a 4-3? Answer. There isn't one and we don't have one.

 

[Smellyman]

And? Who is the nose tackle in a 4-3? Answer. There isn't one and we don't have one.

are you sure? Might want to check the roster.

Also, of all the DTs, who can't play NT?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I mean, if you wanna' dwell on what other teams have, instead of just appreciating what you have on your own roster......

They like their guy, we like ours. Both can exist. All it ever turns into is JS bashing and/or talking about who other teams drafted. I feel like I have to say this a lot

Lighten up......it's just a joke.

 

[Aircrew]

I like our guys, so Murphy. And as long as we keep having meat and potato drafts for the next several years, I'll be a happy camper.

 

[toffee]

And? Who is the nose tackle in a 4-3? Answer. There isn't one and we don't have one.

Hankins

 

[themunn]

I was expecting more Aaron Donaldness.

Yeah why can't every 1st round pick look like a 3xDOPY 8 time first team all-pro in their rookie season

Bearing in mind he's still younger than Donald was when he was drafted