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This is definitely coming from the glass is half full perspective. To my point again, the Patriots navigated the cap marvelously and assembled Super Bowl WINNING teams this way. Jumping over the halfway point in the glass, what if you get a group of players that reasonably have something left with potential upside and assemble them with productive players we already have... then draft some big uglies? One big signing (unless it's Jayden Daniels lol) isn't going to get it done.
If prime Tom Brady was on this team I'd like the moves a lot better.
 

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Addition by subtraction. DK's persona far outweighed his production. 25th in the league in yards and tied for 50th in rec TD's is not worth what he wanted. Not that it's his fault since he can't call his own number, but on a team that wants to be a running team, that type of usage isn't worth it. To other teams that pass a lot more, maybe he's worth it.
One thing I haven't heard much mentioned about Kupp is his influence on JSN. Very similar players, so why not learn from one of the best? I hope Kupp finishes here and wants to coach, too? By all accounts, he sounds like he could be a very good receivers coach.
Lastly, no matter what was reported, I know DK's presence was a distraction for some teammates and coaches. I think Kupp's and Lawrence's presence, along with known leaders like Williams and Reed, will help the younger guys grow. As many young guys as are already on the roster, their growth will help improve the team.
I have a feeling that after his first year as a head coach, MM got a good sense of what he has and what he would rather have.
 

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Addition by subtraction. DK's persona far outweighed his production. 25th in the league in yards and tied for 50th in rec TD's is not worth what he wanted. Not that it's his fault since he can't call his own number, but on a team that wants to be a running team, that type of usage isn't worth it. To other teams that pass a lot more, maybe he's worth it.
One thing I haven't heard much mentioned about Kupp is his influence on JSN. Very similar players, so why not learn from one of the best? I hope Kupp finishes here and wants to coach, too? By all accounts, he sounds like he could be a very good receivers coach.
Lastly, no matter what was reported, I know DK's presence was a distraction for some teammates and coaches. I think Kupp's and Lawrence's presence, along with known leaders like Williams and Reed, will help the younger guys grow. As many young guys as are already on the roster, their growth will help improve the team.
I have a feeling that after his first year as a head coach, MM got a good sense of what he has and what he would rather have.
Nice post. With 10 draft picks they need to find 2-3 impact guys for the defense.
I think they are going to turn the corner and really hurt opposing offenses this year.

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I don't really know what to think of any of this.

The people who are always annoyed by a lack of splashy free agent signings at the start and big trades should be happy for once. Regardless of how this goes down, let them have their day.
 

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I don't really know what to think of any of this.

The people who are always annoyed by a lack of splashy free agent signings at the start and big trades should be happy for once. Regardless of how this goes down, let them have their day.
Nah, not really. Who we signed weren't the splashy fantasy football types people want us to get. ;)
 

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To fixing this shit.
When did our fanbase become like this lol? People act like younger and cheaper somehow makes us better. Every move we've made has either been a lateral, or step backwards. Darnold was surrounded by talent in his 1 good season. #9 offensive line according to PFF, and he had over 3 seconds to throw. We just signed a pressure sensitive QB when our line can barely provide 2 seconds last season. We've done nothing to address it beyond signing a journeyman. Draft picks are no guarantee.

If you watched more than 2 Rams games last season, you would know Kupp is washed. No separation. 18 games missed in the last 3 seasons and is 31 years old(32 by the start of the season). Teams will double JSN every play, and it will take time before Darnold builds chemistry with him.

The only good move we've made is Lawrence. It won't matter if our offense can't stay on the field. It's been the same story for the last decade. Good defense that gets tired by the half because our offense can't produce sustained drives. We always convince ourselves that ANOTHER new OC will fix everything. I feel like all these Seahawk content creators are setting people up for massive disappointment, and it will make talking hawks online unbearable.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it. I'm also not sure why we're suddenly giving JS the benefit of the doubt. He's never shown the ability to draft an offensive line. It's a philosophy issue, and I wish people would realize that.

I feel like people think we're leaving purgatory when really, we just signed another 2-year lease.
 
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When did our fanbase become like this lol? People act like younger and cheaper somehow makes us better. Every move we've made has either been a lateral, or step backwards. Darnold was surrounded by talent in his 1 good season. #9 offensive line according to PFF, and he had over 3 seconds to throw. We just signed a pressure sensitive QB when our line can barely provide 2 seconds last season. We've done nothing to address it beyond signing a journeyman. Draft picks are no guarantee.

If you watched more than 2 Rams games last season, you would know Kupp is washed. No separation. 18 games missed in the last 3 seasons and is 31 years old(32 by the start of the season). Teams will double JSN every play, and it will take time before Darnold builds chemistry with him.

The only good move we've made is Lawrence. It won't matter if our offense can't stay on the field. It's been the same story for the last decade. Good defense that gets tired by the half because our offense can't produce sustained drives. We always convince ourselves that ANOTHER new OC will fix everything. I feel like all these Seahawk content creators are setting people up for massive disappointment, and it will make talking hawks online unbearable.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it. I'm also not sure why we're suddenly giving JS the benefit of the doubt. He's never shown the ability to draft an offensive line. It's a philosophy issue, and I wish people would realize that.

I feel like people think we're leaving purgatory when really, we just signed another 2-year lease.
You very well could be right. I look at it like this….Geno wanted out. Turned the offer down. No counter offer. Gone.

DK wanted out as well.

We picked up, suspect and/washed or not, the two best options to fill those holes.

Draft wise, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Aside from a WR (and I do believe we need another such as Bond, Egbuka or Golden), I’m hoping we draft some IOL monsters up front.

But, I’m also prepared to be disappointed that we don’t. JS and MM surely know better than I do so, what we’re really discussing here is a blind faith of sorts.

You can chose to be disgruntled or cross your fingers and pray.

I’ve done quite a bit of both in my 40+ years of being a ‘Hawks fan.

Not disagreeing with you. Just hoping we get the best that our new additions can bring.
 

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You very well could be right. I look at it like this….Geno wanted out. Turned the offer down. No counter offer. Gone.

DK wanted out as well.

We picked up, suspect and/washed or not, the two best options to fill those holes.

Draft wise, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Aside from a WR (and I do believe we need another such as Bond, Egbuka or Golden), I’m hoping we draft some IOL monsters up front.

But, I’m also prepared to be disappointed that we don’t. JS and MM surely know better than I do so, what we’re really discussing here is a blind faith of sorts.

You can chose to be disgruntled or cross your fingers and pray.

I’ve done quite a bit of both in my 40+ years of being a ‘Hawks fan.

Not disagreeing with you. Just hoping we get the best that our new additions can bring.
I honestly hope I'm not right lol, but I feel like I've seen this show before.

I'm not sure how up to date you stay on social media, but according to Mike Garafolo and a few other NFL beat reporters, Geno wanted to be here and did make a counter offer.

DK announced wanting to be traded the day after we offered to trade DK/Geno for Max Crosby. I'm guessing that's what pushed him over the edge. And I do get moving on from both of them, but I just don't like the Darnold or Kupp signing/direction. It feels like another one of those times where JS gets cute, and it backfires spectacularly. Darnold feels like a Charlie Whitehurst/Matt Flynn type signing, and the buzz around Kupp reminds me of when 12s thought T. J. Houshmandzadeh was going to save us lol. That wasn't JS on T.J, but it does remind me of that.

And hey, this is the best convo I've had with a 12 since this all went down. Most fans won't even entertain the possibility of us being bad. I also worry that if we're bad, people not in the know are going to push for Mac to be fired, and I really like Mac. All of this makes me really miss Paul. We've felt aimless since his passing.
 
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When did our fanbase become like this lol? People act like younger and cheaper somehow makes us better. Every move we've made has either been a lateral, or step backwards. Darnold was surrounded by talent in his 1 good season. #9 offensive line according to PFF, and he had over 3 seconds to throw. We just signed a pressure sensitive QB when our line can barely provide 2 seconds last season. We've done nothing to address it beyond signing a journeyman. Draft picks are no guarantee.
From someone who actually watched the Vikings entire season last year, let me tell you that for the most part, Darnold made that line look better than it was.

That PFF grade is FOOLS GOLD.

I mean if it was truly a good OL, why would they UPGRADE IT? 🤔


I watched Highlights of Geno and paid close attention to the OL that is considered trash here and what I saw was something similar to what I saw in Minny.

I expected to watch the line collapse almost immediately but saw that Geno had time to move up in the pocket and throw, too.

Sam did the same in Minny when the pocket collapsed.

He just had a massive brain-fart those last two games which I'll just credit to him not being used to "Big games" (considering he's been playing out the string on Jets and Panthers teams).


IMO, I think many are overestimating how bad the OL has been here even though it does need improvement (Jenkins, come on down).

Sam is going to do just fine here.
 

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Listening to John talk about the current players and new coaches, I get the impression that the previous coaches before MM didn’t fully communicate what they needed to function effectively. Well soon find out.
 

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There were rumors that DK was not happy with Geno before any news came out about a Geno trade. Something that seemed to support that was John saying after the Geno trade that he was confident that they would be able to retain DK.

If DK was fed up with Geno, and told JS, it would make sense why John said this to the media. If not, why the comment.

I think Sam will be a better distributor of the ball. Better pro style. More play action ion. better short area play with JSN, Kupp and the TEs. Run game will be better.

This team is on the rise.
 

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Obviously the vet signings are not long term team building signings. Doesn't make them bad signings though. Just short term solutions. Is it plugging holes? Yep, that's kinda the point.
I'm guessing that John will be drafting every position that he just signed the vets... QB, DE, WR and Oline (Jenkins?)... in the first 92 picks overall to infuse some young talent at these positions for the next several years.
 
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If DK ever played to his potential, it would be a lot closer.

We’ve been saying that for years.

I’ll miss DK. It was like having Kam Chancellor at receiver.

Definitely happy we landed Kupp.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that Cooper Kupp won't suck the air out of Lumen with a painfully stupid Unnecessary Roughness penalty on a potential game-winning drive in the closing minute of the 4th quarter.
 
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DK had ONE personal foul penalty in 2024. ONE.
He's gone, you and the DK is Satan crew got what you wanted.
 

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I'm not sure how up to date you stay on social media, but according to Mike Garafolo and a few other NFL beat reporters, Geno wanted to be here and did make a counter offer.
This is a case of conflicting reports. Others, like Bob Condotta, have said there was no counteroffer.
 

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