I don't think J. Williams will make the team

[billio155]

Being a rugby coach is something I enjoy and am proud of and there are a lot of similarities to football. Football has it's roots in rugby. The offensive vs defensive line is just an expanded scrum. The techniques for controlling the line of scrimmage are very similar to controlling and ultimately dominating a scrum. For our forwards we preach having a wide base, legs spread wide, ass up, back straight, and eyes on the the middle of the opponents chest, short, quick steps beat, long strides once engaged...etc...etc. All the basic tenants of good form for a lineman. And, certain body types- thick trunk, squat legs and wide shoulders- handle these challenges better than others. The biggest difference as far as football is concerned is a big forward for a rugby team doesn't need to have long arms...but strong hands are a must.
And to answer your question directly, no that doesn't make me some kind of NFL talent expert. Line play is just something that interests me.

 

[Basis4day]

It was never a secret that Williams was raw and flashed signs of brilliance. As shocking as it is, it does take some players time to adjust to the NFL, let alone a 5th rounder

I would say it was. Nothing about Williams suggests he is "raw". The guy would have been a low first round pick or high second round pick, were it not for his knee.

You can still be raw and be a 1st round pick ala Jason Pierre Paul. Physical freaks that need to learn the game. Jesse Williams most definitely applies.

Most scouting reports out there tell you that Williams relies on his brute strength rather than fundamentals to get the job done. That is the definition of a raw talent.

 

[CANHawk]

This is some CRAP! Cut this Aussie bum and get Rickie Foley back here right NOW!

 

[3Girls'HawkDad]

This is some CRAP! Cut this Aussie bum and get Rickie Foley back here right NOW!

Yep

 

[Smelly McUgly]

And on the bet...hell NOOOOOO!!!!

Hey, I tried.

Let's just focus on who you think is likely to not get cut instead of Williams.

Can you share your reasoning why you think Clint McDonald will make this team over Jesse Williams? Or Tony McDaniel, for that matter? Just based on your own thoughts and observations.

I think McDonald is a goner myself.

 

[m0ng0]

cut this bloke and put the KONZ in !!!

 

[HawKnPeppa]

cut this bloke and put the KONZ in !!!

Haha! I really doubt he will get cut in his rookie season. Contrary to what this group-think-powered thread is saying, I've heard he's doing well.

 

[m0ng0]

Yeah if I was going to adopt a rook it would be Williams ! However I hear the Konz can line up anywhere on the field and dominate Its just a shame he can't play 3 positions at the same time.

 

[godawg]

Billio, sorry I thought you were a Whiner troll, and I admit I'm less than objective in defending my adopt-a-rookie. As shown by Monstar's draft day drop, concerns about his knee are legitimate. I do think, however, that he is more talented than many give him credit for, and, as reported by Bama fans, Jesse is a very fast learner with an incredible work ethic.

If the FO were likely to cut Jesse based on missing a few days of camp, they wouldn't have drafted him in th 5th. Based on reports so far, Jesse has shown great promise, so I can't see them keeping McDonald over Jesse. As far as leg strength goes, the fact that he has thin calves doesn't mean much when you look at Shawn Kemp.

What this team values more than almost anything is work ethic coupled with potential. Wait and see, but I'm expecting Jesse will be a Hawk, and that #90 will be a big selling jersey in a year or two.

 

[billio155]

Godawk, no worries at all. And for the record, I really want Williams to make the team. He is my adopt a rookie as well. I mean come on, how can I not root for a fellow ex rugby player? My biggest thing is the knee. He's missed some time in both OTA's and training camp already because of it. So the big question is do you cut a pretty decent run plugger like Mc Donald, a player who is not a difference maker, but gets the job done, for a player you think can be a badass run stuffer who may end up on the pup list. We will see, but that D line is already pretty damn deep.
Does anybody know if Clem will count as a roster spot? And what about Irvin?

By the way Godawk, I did consider taking your bet. But then I imagined my wife shooting me in the face and decided against it.

 

[Axx]

Looks like pete was impressed by williams today

http://m.seahawks.com/s/30860/newsDetails?itemPos=1&itemUri=502402398/13121312331231468111515591635