How Bout Dart?

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This QB draft reminds me of the 93 class, a real crap shoot. You just have to figure out who the Trent Dilfer & Jeff Garcia are if you're willing to roll the dice.

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Oh wow, people think media draft experts are bad NOW, those magazine rankings are a complete disaster. The best QB (among the traditional quarterback rankings) was the one ranked 8th and the only other that paid off for the team that drafted them was the guy they have ranked dead last. The Jags got him and then flipped him to Buffalo for a top 10 pick after he lit up a few preseasons, which became one of the worst trades in Bills history.

Dilfer went 4th overall, started two games as a rookie, and then in his first full season threw 4 TDs to 18 INTs in 16 starts. I'm ok not trying to emulate that. How that team somehow went 7-9 is beyond me.
 

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I think we're going to see the stock on Ewers rise quickly. He has always been very highly-regarded and wasn't bad at all at Texas, he just didn't take that jump into the elite he was expected to last season. I think had he been a 4-star recruit rather than one of the highest rated HS QB prospects in history, the story on him would be different right now. Apparently, he has put on considerable muscle the past few months and I suspect he'll test very well. I think he establishes himself as the clear #3 QB in this draft and crawls back into the second half of the first round. Teams are going to think they can max out his potential. I don't know if Schneider will seriously consider it at 18, but don't be surprised if we start getting connected to him.

I actually really do not like the crop of QBs in this draft projected to go in the mid-late rounds. Gabriel is starting to intrigue me some. That's it. I wouldn't be be remotely excited if we took any of the others before the 6th round.
 

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I think we're going to see the stock on Ewers rise quickly. He has always been very highly-regarded and wasn't bad at all at Texas, he just didn't take that jump into the elite he was expected to last season. I think had he been a 4-star recruit rather than one of the highest rated HS QB prospects in history, the story on him would be different right now. Apparently, he has put on considerable muscle the past few months and I suspect he'll test very well. I think he establishes himself as the clear #3 QB in this draft and crawls back into the second half of the first round. Teams are going to think they can max out his potential. I don't know if Schneider will seriously consider it at 18, but don't be surprised if we start getting connected to him.

I actually really do not like the crop of QBs in this draft projected to go in the mid-late rounds. Gabriel is starting to intrigue me some. That's it. I wouldn't be be remotely excited if we took any of the others before the 6th round.
Ewers coming out is the only player to ever have a perfect grade. He battled Oblique injuries last year which may have hurt his throwing. I think that's why he "took a step back." I think ankle was his other injury last year but I don't recall if it was ankle or not off the top of my head. Seahawks have already met with Ewers. JS has name dropped Ewers for two years now. I'd be happy with Ewers and think he can be had in the 3rd. I would love to pick up another 3rd this year somehow to guarantee that, trade down most likely.

I want no part of Gabriel though, not even undrafted. Too small and struggles to throw to his right side.
 

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I had been mentally equating this year's QB class as something like a couple years back with Willis, Levis, Corral etc. But now I think this class has more guys in it with potential to develop into competent players, Comparing the guys in this class I can't find one with a better resume than Dart, especially as a fit for the Seattle offensive scheme.
We need to frame Chucker's post. One way or another that will will be a wall hanger. LOL
 

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dart has shot up the ranking and now is projected as a round 2 pick. interested to see how he does at the combine. Ewers has met with 7 teams; the Seahawks were not one of them.
 

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dart has shot up the ranking and now is projected as a round 2 pick. interested to see how he does at the combine. Ewers has met with 7 teams; the Seahawks were not one of them.
Reports are Ewers DID meet with Seattle. I also expect a team to trade up to the end of round 1 and take Dart
 

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Reports are Ewers DID meet with Seattle. I also expect a team to trade up to the end of round 1 and take Dart

"Ewers says he's had seven formal meetings at the combine so far. Ewers listed the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, New York Jets, New Orleans Saints, Las Vegas Raiders, Indianapolis Colts and the Steelers. Pittsburgh and Las Vegas were the only two of that group that didn't ask Ewers to go to the white board and diagram plays during the interviews."

I'd be surprised if the Seahawks hadn't talked with him. Wonder why they weren't mentioned.
 

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"Ewers says he's had seven formal meetings at the combine so far. Ewers listed the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, New York Jets, New Orleans Saints, Las Vegas Raiders, Indianapolis Colts and the Steelers. Pittsburgh and Las Vegas were the only two of that group that didn't ask Ewers to go to the white board and diagram plays during the interviews."

I'd be surprised if the Seahawks hadn't talked with him. Wonder why they weren't mentioned.
Yeah, I'm trying to find the post. I saw it yesterday on X from a credible source. Just don't remember who, but they said Seahawks and Ewers met. I saw the same link you posted and no mention. Since I can't find it currently, I'll just concede. But I bet they do meet soon if they haven't already
 

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Yeah, I'm trying to find the post. I saw it yesterday on X from a credible source. Just don't remember who, but they said Seahawks and Ewers met. I saw the same link you posted and no mention. Since I can't find it currently, I'll just concede. But I bet they do meet soon if they haven't already
They will leave no stone unturned. Why wouldn't you meet with him? JS covers all his bases at the combine. Like you said, they will if they haven't already. What will be telling is if they meet with guys that are considered top 10 like Sanders or Ward. Likely keep their powder dry till next year when the draft is better for QB's is my sense. If they love dart and can get him in the 2nd. JS seems to have a great nose for QB talent if all the rumors are true.
 

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Yeah, I'm trying to find the post. I saw it yesterday on X from a credible source. Just don't remember who, but they said Seahawks and Ewers met. I saw the same link you posted and no mention. Since I can't find it currently, I'll just concede. But I bet they do meet soon if they haven't already
boom there you go.
 

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I don't think Dart will still be on the board in the second round. He seems to be vaulting up the ladder by leaps and bounds.
he might not be if he wows at the combine. He could also go early in the 2nd round before we pick. A lot can change, a month ago he was 4th rounder.
 

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he might not be if he wows at the combine. He could also go early in the 2nd round before we pick. A lot can change, a month ago he was 4th rounder.
I still think a team will jump into the back half of the 1st to take Dart. Early to mid 2nd will be the latest he goes for sure. Before we pick at 50.
 

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He didn't even wow at the Senior Bowl. I guess I don't understand why his stock his soaring. I think people are just underwhelmed with this QB class and want to rally around someone, and Dart is a cool guy with an A-tier QB name, but I just don't see it with him. Ole Miss committed to putting the pieces in place for that team to succeed and Dart seemed like a detriment to their success in the biggest games. That Florida game in particular should have people afraid of him. Even his best physical traits are just somewhat above average. He's not Josh Allen where you saw huge flaws and his team wasn't winning, but the guy is just oozing with elite physical traits, or like Patrick Mahomes where yeah he's in a system that hasn't been conducive to NFL success, but you constantly see the high-end arm talent.
 

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he's looked the best so far throwing at the combine. I thought Ewers looked like poop. missed throws, throwing high. Kid from Ohio state looked good too. Dillon Gabirel not so much.
 

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Seems like detractors want to see these young guys as NFL ready. They probably won't be. Any of them. But what I want to see is a guy who does what he is asked to do and has been a habitual improver. Dart is moving up the list in this showing just the way he has done every year of his college career. He proved, better than any other I saw, that he can make all the throws in fine fashion. There is no reason to suspect he is now as good as he can be. From my point of view he is still THE guy in this draft for Seattle, to take over after another year of Smith.
 
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I've been vocal for several months now that I want to see our front office have a sense of urgency for finding our next franchise QB, and to be prepared to make an aggressive move if necessary. To me, that doesn't mean that if they don't like any of the QBs in this draft that they just take the one they like best either. You sure don't want the wrong QB. I really don't see it with Dart, but if we do a deep dive on him and Schneider honestly sees him as a future star who can lead this team into the next era of Seahawks greatness, they sure as hell shouldn't listen to what I have to say about it. If I was running things, we'd be zeroed in on Cam Ward, because the team would be so damn bad, we'd be a near lock for the first overall pick. If we take Dart, I honestly hope he works out, and I would have absolutely no problem eating crow, as I've had to do numerous times in the past.

That being said, people saying that with his workout yesterday, Dart solidified first-round status and established himself as the third, and maybe even second, best QB in the draft, and is now firmly in play for us at #18; that feels like major confirmation bias to me. What did that workout tell us about Dart that we didn't already know about him? I thought he'd throw fine, and I wasn't under the impression that he was a lost cause mechanically. My concerns are more about whether he will be able to read NFL defenses and whether he can stand up the pressure in big-time games, because I did not see much of that from him at Ole Miss. Nothing he's doing at the combine answers those questions.
 

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