Good summary article on the Grubb 'era' -

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It's over and done with, but I thought a nice summary on the events.

Seems MM was significantly more frustrated with the situation than the pressers would indicate..... As well he should have been. Grubb straight up ignored the HC for the better part of the season, and basically ignored direct orders. What an idiot.

 

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No need to kick him when he's down. It didn't work out, he was sent packing. Good enough.
He'll end up back with deFRAUD in Alabama. They have coached together at 4 different schools.
 

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What convinced me was watching time after time in the red zone against the Jets throwing the ball. Even on third and fourth downs and only a half yard to go he called passing plays. At that point I was done with him and ready to move on.
 
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No need to kick him when he's down. It didn't work out, he was sent packing. Good enough.
He'll end up back with deFRAUD in Alabama. They have coached together at 4 different schools.
No, actually I'm good with kicking him while he's down.

He literally cost us the season. And his stubborn defiance, which is largely outlined in the article is spot on. And annoying as F.

"Grubb called pass plays on a stunning 87 percent of the team's snaps, leading to Smith being sacked seven times."

**** him.
 

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It's over and done with, but I thought a nice summary on the events.

Seems MM was significantly more frustrated with the situation than the pressers would indicate..... As well he should have been. Grubb straight up ignored the HC for the better part of the season, and basically ignored direct orders. What an idiot.

I have been saying it. Macdonald was not on the same page as Grubb and gradually over the course of the season, his frustration grew more and more obvious.

Grubb was not a good coordinator. All of the oohing and aahhhing over his pass attack misses the point that he was doing dumb stuff on the regular, game in and game out. I dont get how someone thinks Grubb would have been fine if he had an o line when he was just so fundamentally poor.

I think Grubb did what he wanted to do. His pressers betrayed an arrogance and unwillingness to adapt or even find fault in most of what he was doing. A better o line cant fix poor character, inflexibility or the inability to be self-aware.

Grubb used this season as his own personal practice reel and didnt give .02 what the coach or team needed him to do.

None of this is a surprise to me honestly. I remember him speaking to the boosters at Alabama after he was rumored to already have accepted the job here, looking at them in the eyere and telling them straightfaced from the podium that he wasnt going anywhere, that he would be their coordinator, and he was commited to their school. He could have put off the conference altogether or handled it in a way that wasnt as deceptive. Cant trust a guy like that.
 

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No, actually I'm good with kicking him while he's down.

He literally cost us the season. And his stubborn defiance, which is largely outlined in the article is spot on. And annoying as F.

"Grubb called pass plays on a stunning 87 percent of the team's snaps, leading to Smith being sacked seven times."

**** him.
So, you think that just Grubb is the reason we're not in the playoffs? Um........there are SEVERAL reasons they didn't make it. He's just one of them.
The defense crapping the bed in some of the home losses. The turnover machine that is gePICK. A horrific O Line.
 

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So, you think that just Grubb is the reason we're not in the playoffs? Um........there are SEVERAL reasons they didn't make it. He's just one of them.
The defense crapping the bed in some of the home losses. The turnover machine that is gePICK. A horrific O Line.
On a good team, when your defense craps the bed, the offense bails them out. This offense was never capable of doing that. Both the line and Geno were made to look even worse due to Grubb's ineptitude. Not to suggest either are top 5, or anything of the sort.
 

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Grubb was PART of it. To think that he's the ONLY reason is not only plain silly, but also just more Geno apologist stuff.
The O line is PATHETIC. That is not ONLY because of the OC.
Grubb didn't throw a ridiculous number of interceptions, including several in the red zone. And that's not counting the SEVERAL that were dropped by defenders. He wasn't good enough; he was fired for it. But dear god, the Geno isn't at fault stuff is laughable.
 

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So, you think that just Grubb is the reason we're not in the playoffs? Um........there are SEVERAL reasons they didn't make it. He's just one of them.
The defense crapping the bed in some of the home losses. The turnover machine that is gePICK. A horrific O Line.

I dont get it. How is Grubb absolved by some fans for sub-par qb play, poor line play and a crap run game?

The OC is responsible for designing a gameplan that helps his players and maximizes their opportunities for individual anf collective success. The article outlines just a handful of the countless examples of how Grubb made success an uphill battle for Geno, the line, and ultimately the team.
 

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Absolved? He wasn't good, he was fired for it. He was a HUGE part of why the offense was so inconsistent. He wasn't THE only reason. Not even close.
It's shocking how many excuses Geno gets. Damn
Grubb, O Line, Geno, Defensive breakdowns in losses, ALL big reasons this team isn't in the playoffs.
How quickly people forget the stretch where teams were just flat out gashing our defense, especially on the ground. Luckily, they turned it around big time. My point is simple, there is plenty of blame to go around when a team misses the playoffs.
I hated the play calling, I'm not sad he's gone.
 
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Corbin seems like a good dude but man the way he's doubled down on his takes lately and called everyone else stupid in a sense has rubbed me wrong. I need a break from him lol.
 

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Grubb was PART of it. To think that he's the ONLY reason is not only plain silly, but also just more Geno apologist stuff.
The O line is PATHETIC. That is not ONLY because of the OC.
Grubb didn't throw a ridiculous number of interceptions, including several in the red zone. And that's not counting the SEVERAL that were dropped by defenders. He wasn't good enough; he was fired for it. But dear god, the Geno isn't at fault stuff is laughable.

Bro, if the play sucks, the pass pro sucks and the situational awarness sucks, the result will most likely suck. Whether RB or QB. And thats what we saw again and again.

Geno tossed INts, sure. But in the context of a crap offensive plan.

Who else is responsible for choosing to never run the ball? Whether to guve the line a break, to milk the clockx or to keep the D off balance?

Who else forces the line to drop into pass pro repeatedly even though they are already gassed and getting steamrolled?

Who else doesnt call plays to give his Tackles help and instead goes spread over and over and over again?

What idiot puts a backup in the game and sets him up to fail by having him passes pretty much exclusively, even though the run had worked and would have helped the new starter settle in?

And dont even get me started on the 4th and 1 pass call against the Giants in our own end where he allowed a jailbreak passrush to get a sack.

The dude is a pass design genius but a football moron. Harbaugh exposed him in the championship game and he was solved by week 5 of the season and never recovered ... because he was too arrogant and big headed to do so.

Do you honestly think that if Grubb wasnt ignorant AND obstinate / stubborn, the team would have let him walk and look like moron for giving him a shot in the first place? They paid him, gave him a platform to succeed in the league, trusted him when he said he would commit to a string run game and then watched him just call whatever the F he wanted regardless of peronell, team strengths and weaknesses, opponents strengths and weaknesses, situations and plain common sense.

He hurt the offense more than anything single player or unit did because he consistently put them in position to fail.

And F Geno's support for him too. Im sure Grubb calling the game Sunday to get Geno his incentives was a huge middle finger to the franchise, knowing he woukd be fired anyway. Shame on Geno for giving the guy credit and flat ignoring the BS he allowed to play out all year.

Good riddance. '25 cant get here soon enough.
 

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It wasn't until half way through the year he awknowledged and/or realized he needed to make adjustments to game plans and his overall approach to the offense. That thought should be on a game-to-game basis, the dude is an idiot.

He tried to fake it till he made it and he failed.
 

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Bro, if the play sucks, the pass pro sucks and the situational awarness sucks, the result will most likely suck. Whether RB or QB. And thats what we saw again and again.

Geno tossed INts, sure. But in the context of a crap offensive plan.

Who else is responsible for choosing to never run the ball? Whether to guve the line a break, to milk the clockx or to keep the D off balance?

Who else forces the line to drop into pass pro repeatedly even though they are already gassed and getting steamrolled?

Who else doesnt call plays to give his Tackles help and instead goes spread over and over and over again?

What idiot puts a backup in the game and sets him up to fail by having him passes pretty much exclusively, even though the run had worked and would have helped the new starter settle in?

And dont even get me started on the 4th and 1 pass call against the Giants in our own end where he allowed a jailbreak passrush to get a sack.

The dude is a pass design genius but a football moron. Harbaugh exposed him in the championship game and he was solved by week 5 of the season and never recovered ... because he was too arrogant and big headed to do so.

Do you honestly think that if Grubb wasnt ignorant AND obstinate / stubborn, the team would have let him walk and look like moron for giving him a shot in the first place? They paid him, gave him a platform to succeed in the league, trusted him when he said he would commit to a string run game and then watched him just call whatever the F he wanted regardless of peronell, team strengths and weaknesses, opponents strengths and weaknesses, situations and plain common sense.

He hurt the offense more than anything single player or unit did because he consistently put them in position to fail.

And F Geno's support for him too. Im sure Grubb calling the game Sunday to get Geno his incentives was a huge middle finger to the franchise, knowing he woukd be fired anyway. Shame on Geno for giving the guy credit and flat ignoring the BS he allowed to play out all year.

Good riddance. '25 cant get here soon enough.
Fair enough. He's gone, I'm good not talking about him anymore. Shoot, I'm glad they moved on.

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A few pointers from this article:
  1. Schneider knew Grubb a lot longer and better than Macdonald.
  2. We were late and desperate to sign an OC.
  3. All the established candidates were taken or not interested in our opening.
  4. Macdonald had reservations about Grubb's pass-happy offense even at the pizza meeting.
  5. Good that Geno kept his mouth shut, although DK voiced about lack of running plays.
I always suspect Grubb was more a Schneider hire than a Macdonald hire. With a 10 win season and the failure of Grubb, Macdonald's stock is UP, Schneider's DOWN.
 

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I liked him the first 4-5 games. I see him as the fall guy for injuries, a major OL miss in the draft, and an aging QB who always struggles in the red zone. Not a jab at Geno but factual.

We all knew he was the only guy left and it was going to be a major leap for him. Outside of a couple of games, he delivered exciting football, just not consistently nor balanced.
 

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A few pointers from this article:
  1. Schneider knew Grubb a lot longer and better than Macdonald.
  2. We were late and desperate to sign an OC.
  3. All the established candidates were taken or not interested in our opening.
  4. Macdonald had reservations about Grubb's pass-happy offense even at the pizza meeting.
  5. Good that Geno kept his mouth shut, although DK voiced about lack of running plays.
I always suspect Grubb was more a Schneider hire than a Macdonald hire. With a 10 win season and the failure of Grubb, Macdonald's stock is UP, Schneider's DOWN.
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No need to kick him when he's down. It didn't work out, he was sent packing. Good enough.
He'll end up back with deFRAUD in Alabama. They have coached together at 4 different schools.
When you take a job with millions of eyes on you that pays millions of dollars with the full knowledge of how fanbases behave, you know what you're getting into
 

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I haven't read the article yet but I always felt strongly that Mike was biting his tongue quite a bit throughout the season. I could just feel they were not seeing eye-to-eye and I thought since we kept seeing the same thing offensively week in and week out, that either Grubb was flat out ignoring Mike or something else, perhaps hoping the OL would get rolling.

I never once felt those two were on the same page this season.
 

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